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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2006/10/25/261816/-
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That would be the sound of jungle drums, not the phrase 'jungle drums'. Did you even read the link or did you just google jungle drums + racist and post the first result?
Maybe try a dictionary?
Just FYI Malvvern, there is more evidence that taking the Mickey is actually from rhyming slang for Micheal Bliss, piss, than a reference to the Irish.
Uppity, on the other hand, difficult to believe someone could be ignorant of that.
Uppity, on the other hand, difficult to believe someone could be ignorant of that
Holds hand up...
Olly, I think that may just be the point. Easy to be offended if you don't know the etymology yet an innocent phrase otherwise.
And yes, I'm pretty sure that was the one I was thinking of.
If the expression is widely acknowledged to be racist, people using it are racists.
Fixed that for me
Is it OK to use the expression “jungle drums” to mean “grapevine” or “rumour mill” in modern society?
My personal answer is “no, probably not but IME it is NOT widely acknowledged to be racist, nor have I ever heard it used as such”.
Is using the expression “jungle drums” to mean “rumour mill” racist?
My personal answer is “currently, no, though may depend on context and intonation”.
Before this thread I wouldn’t have been so sure. Now I’m absolutely certain.
Needs more for me than one report to HR from an incident I didn't witness?
You’re getting confused, easily.
From what I’ve read if the last two pages that’s you Edukator. I’ll sit and wait whilst you go and dig up my posting history to prove a point. By the way it’s not just creepy, it’s really quite sad and pathetic.
By the way it’s not just creepy, it’s really quite sad and pathetic.
I was going for borderline psychopath.
Quite the opposite. You are talking about the difference between the intentionality of an utterance and its illocutionary force.
Sorry, not clear. I was referring to the phrase “no offence given”, not the jungle drums. I understand that if I say something that offends somebody then I am the one who should carry the blame. Feelings are not negotiable, or similar.
Uppity? Never heard of that as racist.
Edit - dictionary not giving me much clue either. Its a condescending and pejoritive word but racist
2nd edit - looks like that american because its often used for black folk
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This is a very enlightening article, this is one of those difficult cases where someone has been inadvertently racist - what else could playing african drums as background music during footage featuring your black opponent be?
It however has nothing to do with the use of the phrase "Jungle Drums".