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My next door neighbour banged on my door at 2am last night - can you believe that? Lucky for him I was still up practicing my bagpipes.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 2:30 pm
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Why would you want to purposely frustrate your neighbours and just make things worse for yourself? Surely it's in your interest to make relations between your houses better?

It would actually help if you read something about dog behaviour - it may change how you react to the situation - like I say it's not the dog's fault, it's a problem caused by his environment - and as he's a rescue he may have a reason why he's averse to people outside the windows, possibly abused by someone who looks like you, or wears the same clothes, any number of reasons.

Obviously it's up to you, but if you go along the route of exacerbating the situation then it's downward spiral, and when you choose to move because the situation is that bad, you can't because you have to disclose any problems with neighbours.

Your neighbour definitely wants to sort out the situation, as she approached you, and asked to, then wouldn't move from your door - because she didn't want to leave the situation as it was.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 2:31 pm
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So several of us have tried to be helpful; tell you what the best solution is. Because it would involve a bit of effort on your part it's just biased dog owners?
Deborah Meaden time for me....


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 2:32 pm
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I would have to say that banging on someone's window is bound to annoy them. Once you've annoyed someone then there's usually no rational debate to be had. So you're a bit screwed now.


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 5:35 pm
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This.

So several of us have tried to be helpful; tell you what the best solution is. Because it would involve a bit of effort on your part it's just biased dog owners?

And this.
I would have to say that banging on someone's window is bound to annoy them. Once you've annoyed someone then there's usually no rational debate to be had. So you're a bit screwed now.

Are not putting the OP in a good light, I'm afraid.
don simon (dog lover and thoroughly reasonable chap). ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 14/03/2012 5:41 pm
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I just asked if was unreasonable not for any advice, besides I've been more than happy to resolve matters in a calm and reasonable fashion, they have not, hence my actions you know the straw that broke the donkeys or us it camel's back.


 
Posted : 15/03/2012 9:57 am
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Going to mediation tonight with the neighbours about their dog, should be fun ๐Ÿ˜•


 
Posted : 04/05/2012 5:02 pm
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I dont think banging on the window did anything to help the situation. However if it was just barking as you went past I am sure you could live with that. If it trully is barking day or night it is the owners responsibilty to deal with that.

It could be that the dog is not stimulated in the right way. Mine go nuts at the window cleaner but are generally quite. My neighbours is a bit more yap yap at everything but not all day and night.

It can be frustrating but I think anyy sense of reason now has potentially broken down.

I would probably be sat there at 2am trying to get it to bark knowing it would p155 you off if you knocked on my window. But I do believe I would not let myself get in that situation with a neighbour.

What sort of dog is it, and will the dog have its say at mediation!

Whatever you do don't feed the dog something "special".

I would potentially see socialising the dog with you so that it does not perceive you as a threat, however if its day and night there are other issues as I doubt it has a percivd threat all the time. It could be lack of stimulation.


 
Posted : 04/05/2012 6:02 pm
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You need to fight fire with fire.

Gently tap on their window late at night so the dog goes mental. Growl at him every time you see it. Rev him up so he HATES you and every other human being. Make him howl 24/7 so they're living in a dog-induced hell.

Throw sticks just out of reach. Throw sticks gently agains the doors at 0400. This dog needs to be conditioned to keep its owners on edge.

Kick back and savour your good work.


 
Posted : 04/05/2012 6:10 pm
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The op i think needs to learn two things:
1. Training a dog to stop barking once it has developed the problem is very hard. I doubt the neighbours are "letting it bark" as you suggest rather they are struggling with a rescue dog.
2. If you start banging on windows and intimidating women you could well come unstuck. Certainly were it my mrs, sister or mum you treated in this manner shoes would be weed in and bombers removed from the bike.

Its not unreasonable to expect a dog not to bark too much but your behaviour seems pretty unreasonable too.


 
Posted : 04/05/2012 6:42 pm
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tolerate them in the certain knowledge that they are extending you the same courtesy

On the contrary, my last neighbours were never anything but perfectly without courtesy at all times, especially 3am on Monday mornings when they just had to let their hair down before then not getting up for work.

I'm generally of the view that pets are PITA. I grew up with enough of them to have a well formed view. Most of all, dog owners seem to have a fascination with making their problems everyone else's problem.

But, sadly, the OP has, through this recent act, escalated the feud up to Defcon 1 and now neither "side" can back down.

And the dog will continue to bark.


 
Posted : 04/05/2012 7:13 pm
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Most of all, dog owners seem to have a fascination with making their problems everyone else's problem.

Is that all of them?


 
Posted : 04/05/2012 7:56 pm
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omitn

there are some dog owners that are stupid. Most love their animals but some are very responsible. Ok so you are not a pet person but hey lets not tar everyone with the same brush?


 
Posted : 04/05/2012 8:02 pm
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Why don't [i]you[/i] try barking at your neighbours every time they come and go?

You'd be taken away for [i]retraining[/i] fairly quickly. ๐Ÿ˜‰

M


 
Posted : 04/05/2012 9:56 pm
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This issue is that they don't see their dog which is a Kelp Collie cross as being and issue, they thought they were at mediation because of the rows we've had, I let them start the ball rolling and to say they elaborated on the truth would be an understatement, I felt a certain satisfaction when the special constable put them right on the reason they were there. I was on my own and all three of their household present giving me daggers. Anyway the upshot is the council will be in touch to setup monitoring equipment and I have asked to get the RSPCA Dog trainer involved who they say has been helping them train the dog and reckons it doesn't need any more training, perhaps it doesn't at the classes but they need to extend that to how its behaving at home, I also think its unfair that an active dog like that is stuck in the house all day. So watch this space.


 
Posted : 04/05/2012 9:56 pm
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A collie needs a great deal of stimulation and that might be the reason its being a pain.


 
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