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I did hear you told me yesterday 😀 good effort sucking them in tho
I think barnes should remove himself to somewhere wanted or grow up or even MTFU
I love the idea that I need to grow up and become uncritically credulous :o)
Alexxx.. me and barnes are discussing diet v exercise. Not iDave's plan.
I'm seeing if I can lose weight the traditional way as a gesture towards being a control, and Barnes is just interested in how it all pans out.
No points to miss.
can someone send me the plan please?
[i]AND tomatoes...! Are tom's out?[/i]
I'm certainly not going to tell you that Toms are out.
But the [u]suggestion[/u] was that fruit would not be eaten, in order to achieve the results we're expecting.
But as Alexxx writes, Sup to you mate.
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[i]Dieting has been around since Victorian times, it's hardly modern. It was really big in the 40s and 50s[/i]
What is Dieting ?...I've no idea what that is. I know what other people think it is. But I don't get it.
So, I go swimming, I swim for a bit, then I stop and leave the river.
I've been swimming. I was in the river, moving my arms and legs around in a swimming stylee. Then I stop and go home.
My Diet ?, I've been eating since day one, and will hopefully continue to do so until it all stops for me.
Everything I've ever eaten would have been part of my diet.
Its not dieting though.
Modern ?....I would say that ever since man first established a link between what he ate and the results he saw in is body, man has pondered what he should eat, for many different reasons, especially medicinal.
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Well, reading some of todays posts, it seems to me that one little-ole thread in some distant corner of the STW mad-house, isn't going to alter some people's en-grained preconceptions on the subject of food.
What we eat, why we eat it and how we eat it.
Nor what role exercise does, or should play in our lives.
SpaceMonkey.
You've done a good job on me for that lentil and bacon soup.
By the sounds of it, I have given that one a go, even without embarking on this little exercise.
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Cheers.
Solo
I just made the nicest meal yet! bit of a mash up but it tasted awesome and I think after making it I kinda realised actually this 3 weeks is more about finding healthy meal options that I'd cook weekly and happily.
chunky chicken breast
asparagus, mushroom, red onion, chick peas, red lentils, chorizo, chilli, black pepper, garlic
all fried slowly, really flavoursome and juicy 😀 very happy I made 2 portions 😀
But the suggestion was that fruit would not be eaten, in order to achieve the results we're expecting.
since most fruit (apart from bananas) is low calorie [b]and[/b] nutritious, as well as being inescapably natural and unprocessed, one can only suppose any prohibition is based on some theoretical knock on effect, or pure evil 🙁
I'm knocking together a plan minus the tomatoes for now, see how I get on. 🙂
A good easy recipe is; onions & garlic fried off in olive oil add chickpeas, sherry vinager and chicken stock, cook for a bit add a massive bag of spinach and let it wilt mmmm
I think that would be pretty good for the meat eaters if you added some chicken as well.
I'm going to make some tom yam soup for a tasty lunch tomorrow
Alexxx.. me and barnes are discussing diet v exercise. Not iDave's plan.
Well....maybe start a thread about that then rather than squatting in this one?
well said.
C - that sounds very nice indeed! I'll try it today 😀
you sound like you'll have some other good recipes up your sleeve! care to share :D?
[i]I kinda realised actually this 3 weeks is more about finding healthy meal options that I'd cook weekly and happily[/i] [EDIT]: indefinately [/EDIT].
Absolutely mate, same for me too 😀
SFB
When did I ever post that Fruit is Evil ?
See this 🙁
Thats the effect you're starting to have on me.
[i]since most fruit (apart from bananas) is low calorie and nutritious, as well as being inescapably natural and unprocessed, one can only suppose any prohibition is based on some theoretical knock on effect, or pure evil [/i]
This is for SFB: [i]Well, reading some of todays posts, it seems to me that one little-ole thread in some distant corner of the STW mad-house, isn't going to alter [b]some people's en-grained preconceptions on the subject of food.
What we eat, why we eat it and how we eat it.[/b][/i]
Unprocessed ?, are you kinding !.
Nobody is stopping anyone eating fruit. Its merely a suggestion, based on a bit of info we're sharing and using.
Your comments seem to emerge from a certain opinion.
I thank the honourable forum member SFB, for his concern that I shall be without Fruit for a few weeks. But please, don't worry, I can look after myself.
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Ta
S
Getting back on track. Can this thing be achieved by someone who more heats things up as opposed to cooks?
Can someone please sens me this plan please.
stevefpg(at)googlemail(dot)com
Cheers
Steve
for his concern that I shall be without Fruit for a few weeks
I've picked on that because it seems so nonsensical as to throw the whole project into question
some people's en-grained preconceptions on the subject of food.
What we eat, why we eat it and how we eat it.
I eat tasty things. I eat them instinctively because they're yummy. I eat with my mouth*. Widely held preconceptions I think 🙂
*I've read that nasal application is possible but havn't tried it yet
since most fruit (apart from bananas) is low calorie and nutritious
this isn't about low calorie eating - but of course you know that already...
I would say that ever since man first established a link between what he ate and the results he saw in is body, man has pondered what he should eat
Quite right. And that was about the mid 19th century 🙂 I said dieting has been around for a while meaning eating a [b]restricted [/b]diet in order to lose weight - the common use of the word as a verb.
Re fruit - I believe Dave's diet (the subject here) cuts out fruit including tomatoes. That's why people are talking about cutting out fruit.
I eat tasty things. I eat them instinctively because they're yummy. I eat with my mouth
That's what makes some people fat, Barnes! You are lucky if it doesn't.
[i]I've read that nasal application is possible but havn't tried it yet[/i]
Thats allright. Get yourself admitted to hospital, with the correct requirement, and you'll get your chance.
Still waiting for you to answer my Q about when I've stated fruit is evil ?.
I expect I'll be waiting a long time.....But then again, thats not your point is it.
I thought you were meant to be studying us. Don't your contributions effect your study....you could always try just reading and not typing.
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S
[i]Re fruit - I believe Dave's diet (the subject here) cuts out fruit including tomatoes. That's why people are talking about cutting out fruit.
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Sorry MolGrips, I didn't think fruit was cut-out, just restricted.
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[i]That's what makes some people fat, Barnes! You are lucky if it doesn't.[/i]
Agree
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S
Hehe Solo's the lancelot of this thread, I cant even be bothered anymore, I'll let the results and tasty recipes speak for themselves.
I just counted 56 people asked me for the guide 🙂
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Still waiting for you to answer my Q about when I've stated fruit is evil ?
it was old [b]iDave[/b] that said that fruit was verboten, and this has been susequently reiterated by several others. It was I that suggested this might be because fruit was evil, but that perhaps scurvy and the loss of teeth were a high price to pay
any non meat eaters on the plan?
I don't eat meat...was just going to chuck in some quorn stuff in place of the meat
I don't think it's evil, just to be avoided for particular reasons on this regime. And yes I mean iDave.
i don't eat quorn either though!! (reet fussy)
Alexxx.
You are right, and I'll have to let old SFB alone....Soon
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[i]it was old iDave that said that fruit was verboten[/i]
That is completely and utterly incorrect.
Those who wish to follow iDave's [b]advice[/b] will know that they can eat [b]whatever[/b] they want, at least one day a week.
Even yummy things.
[i]It was I that suggested this might be because fruit was evil, but that perhaps scurvy and the loss of teeth were a high price to pay [/i]
Fear not fellow MTB'er, I believe iDave has teeth and is scurvy-free.
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I'm going home now to yummy food, with the aid of good recipe suggestions from friendly types on here.
Thanks all.
S
Veggies are on the iDave plan, which means plenty of vitamin C.
Re meat - I wonder if the lack of dairy would make it difficult for non-meat eaters? You'd be effectively vegan. Oh, but there's eggs - so you'd probly be ok there 🙂
it was old iDave that said that fruit was verboten
That is completely and utterly incorrect.
on the dietary advice thread, he posted:
cut OUT white carb food - bread, potatoes, rice, pasta. as in don't eat them
cut OUT fruit
cut OUT dairy
don't drink calories
drink red wine, coffee and water
eat as much veg as you want
as many eggs also
and lean meat
use legumes/nuts/seeds to replace the white starch
(so I was wrong about scurvy as veg should prevnt that 🙂
God gave us teeth for tearing through flesh, get some meat down yer.
Who is idave?
I wonder if the lack of dairy would make it difficult for non-meat eaters? You'd be effectively vegan. Oh, but there's eggs
I use soya milk (though sweetened with toxic apple juice) and hardly ever touch eggs, however there's plenty of protein from non-animal sources
He said cut out, not forbid.
Who is idave?
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God gave us teeth for tearing through flesh, get some meat down yer
He also gave us brains with which to consider our actions 🙂
I thought there was something that was hard to get if you were completely vegan.. plant protein wasn't enough.. anyone care to shed some light?
EDIT: I was thinking of vitamin B12.
molgrips ignore dave he's a veggi and good at fighting his corner, you'd be onto a loss leader with his sarcasm 😀
Oh.. heh..
But still - not arguing against veggie-ism. It's very eco friendly for a start.
He said cut out, not forbid.
"cut OUT white carb food - bread, potatoes, rice, pasta. [b]as in don't eat them[/b]"
seems to be quite unambiguous about what "cut out" might mean, if there were any doubt...
plant protein wasn't enough.. anyone care to shed some light?
if you exclude all animal sources then you need to mix different plant sources to get all the amino acids
I use soya milk
enjoying the phyto oestrogens are we Ms Barnes 😆
This would fit in the plan I think...
Roast some beetroot in olive oil and then let it cool down a bit.
Mix on a plate with spinach and rocket some walnuts and flaked warm smoked mackerel. Make a dressing out of some horseradish, olive oil, (lemon juice - eek - red / white wine vinager?)salt and pepper.
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EDIT: I was thinking of vitamin B12
fortified margarine, breakfast cereals and most importantly Marmite, all have B12.
Can we just use this post for tasty recipies;
For me so far salmon with baked aubergines slices (dinner last night) Chickpeas,tuna,cucumber,raddish,rocket,chilli,spring onion (lunch today)
Chicken,asparagus,borlotti beans,rocket (dinner tonight)
I don't even need to loose weight 5'8 & 10st 11lbs, just the idea of being fighting fit appealed,(still a bit in winter proof mode) plus some of the recipies look so tasty can't wait to have lamb chops with refried beans.
Ah.. wiki didn't mention Marmite, must've been written by an American 🙂 But it did say eat supplemented foods as you say.
Action dan - if you are not trying to lose weight but want to train and get fitter, you may wish to consider a higher carb diet than this one (do I need my flame-proof suit?) to go with more exercise...
enjoying the phyto oestrogens are we Ms Barnes
I need something to restrain my overwhelming libido darling :o)
[b]Marmite[/b] YAY!!
I am interested in what people are doing for breakfast? Do not think I could hack eggs everyday.
kin'ell sfb i said you can eat what you want one day a week. in fact eat what you want anytime, any day, whatever it is..... eat an apple tree today if it helps you feel more smug and legitimate, though frankly I doubt that's possible
jamie, bacon, asparagus and beans works for breakfast?