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any chance of a copy of the info please
I didn't mean it as an insult, more of concern. 🙂
Have you not got anything better to do than haunt this thread like a bitter old lady?
as it happens I'm interested in the dynamics of belief as reflected in this thread. So far bitterness hasn't come into it.
as it happens I'm interested in the dynamics of belief as reflected in this thread. So far bitterness hasn't come into it.
Fair enough, but approaching it from a cynical or negative view point will cloud any results you may come to. Why not give it a go and then see it from a different/ clearer angle? You can always put the weight back on after if you don't want to be thinner.
Why not give it a go and then see it from a different/ clearer angle?
as I said, I'm interested in what people will believe, not weight loss. Whether it works or not is beside the point.
jeeeysus, your mum must be proud
What, because he's examining how people behave and not handing out unoriginal insults?
he's a patronising ****, its like me signing up to a Christian forum and saying what about buddah, how about the big bang.. ect..
im sure 99.9% of the people on this thread dont give a toss to what he says, its a sorry state of affairs
I see where he's going with it... but I can see how it's annoying.
molgrips - MemberWhat, because he's examining how people behave and not handing out unoriginal insults?
Personally I think "haunt this thread like a bitter old lady" is a little more original than calling over weight people "porkie". Also you can't really examine anything if you approach it in a bias opinionated way can you?
jeeeysus, your mum must be proud
^^^ that was the unoriginal insult. The old lady one was quite good 🙂
As for Barnes, I think he's commenting on the way that when this diet thing first came up, everyone sort of fell to iDave's feet asking for enlightenment and salvation from all the confusion and struggle they've been labouring over... Ok that's exaggerating a lot, but that's what I think he is getting at!
I think its probably just that time of year where dieting is on peoples minds and it just happened to fit a niche that people were wanting
anyway day 2 and i feel great, not hungry at all, god its a hard life.
Alexxx trust me when I say Barnes is mere shadow of his former self, this is positively chatty for him.
he's asking reasonable questions as well.
alexxx - FWIW I think you are spot on re SFB. I have been following this thread as I have been following a similar plan to the one suggested by iDave for 3 weeks but haven't posted as I'm not on 'this plan'.
His comment "[i]as it happens I'm interested in the dynamics of belief as reflected in this thread[/i]" boiled my piss. WTF does he think he is that he can 'study' people. Its all bolox of course, he's just a sad attention seeking ****t who can't bear to be left out, even when his input is neither constructive or wanted.
Good luck to you all BTW, the weight is dropping off me quite nicely 😉
just to clarify, i'm not a bloater, but have a stone to shift to get to the race weight i want to be for the event in September
also to clarify, i had 6 weeks without any training
my apologies for not being like lord adonis
like i said, shifting a stone in 6 weeks will not be difficult
idave, and everyone else...........
i have been reading this thread, and someone kindly emailed me the list of foodstuff and the plan.
one thing that i thought straight away........this is the atkins diet, or very very similar.
am i wrong??
Sorry idave, wasn't meaning to sound mocking or whatever, misunderstood and thought it was a way of life rather than a crash diet. To my mind subtle changes that are permanent must be a better plan for all the mere mortals on here rather than yoyo style diets which are fine if you need to go from healthy to race trim rather than chunky to healthy.
i did the atkins diet................i stunk like a rotting corpse.... 😀
no worries, in my mind it isn't a crash diet at all and weight tends to stabilse when all the fat is shifted.
ton - Member
idave, and everyone else...........
i have been reading this thread, and someone kindly emailed me the list of foodstuff and the plan.
one thing that i thought straight away........this is the atkins diet, or very very similar.
am i wrong??
Yes - plenty of carbs in this diet.
it lookes like it is all protein stuff to me.
very good for muscle growth i suppose.
and wind........... 😉
" is a little more original than calling over weight people "porkie".
however, it was non specific, and for all you know might apply equally to myself...
Also you can't really examine anything if you approach it in a bias opinionated way can you?
does suspecting people believe things on inadequate justification amount to bias ?
WTF does he think he is that he can 'study' people
He can study us all he likes, so can I or you for that matter.
Ton, the carbs comes from the pulses/legumes (from memory, currently surfing on a painful dongle with poor signal so can't look back to the original post).
Just as long as you don't call it a cult...
[i]it's a secret, you have to be on the list or you're not joining in[/i]
No, I don't think its a secret, you just have to mail iDave or someone and ask for a copy.
It may interest you to know that this isn't a [i]Diet[/i] for me.
I intend to use what I learn from participating, to compliment my existing eating habits, my existing, daily diet.
However, [u]I am not[/u] [i]on a Diet[/i].
Furthermore, I'm not interested in being [i]on a diet[/i]. The modern, media fuelled, concept of [i]dieting[/i] is complete rubbish, imo. In the same category as the use of the phrase "[i]De-tox[/i]".
I am using this to make me think about what alternatives I can come up with, rather than eating stuff that puts weight on me.
I'm a significant part of the way there, already (soup for lunch rather than a sarny), but these ideas just might help tie-up some loose ends in my eating habits.
Intend to prove iDave's suggestions, for myself, by trying them for a few weeks, after which there'll be no harm done, and I'll be, hopefully, a little wiser.
[i]that's most extraordinarily kind of you
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SFB. I'm not looking to pick on anyone or get into an argument 😉
Observation is fine 🙂 by me.
If people do not wish to be [i]studied[/i], then posting on an open forum may not be for them.
However, I have felt at times that you're just out to trip people up, catch them out.
As I think you can see, that would be irritating to folk.
But if you think you're going to understand something, then stay with us.
[i]anyway day X and i feel great, not hungry at all,[/i]
Yeah, me too. Its no trouble at all.
🙂
Cheers.
Solo
For anyone who thinks lentils are dull (or should that be "dal"? :D), try boiling/simmering them in chicken stock or similar. It can really bring the flavour alive. We had some last night with fish and they rock.
Just polished off an omelette this morning; with courgette, mushrooms, tomatoes, parma ham and fresh sage/marjoram. Nom noms.
Keep up the good work everyone.
And thanks again to iDave for his efforts (and frank talking at times).
However, I am not on a Diet. Furthermore, I'm not interested in being on a diet
The idea of being [i]on[/i] or [i]off[/i] a diet is a misunderstanding, we all have a diet - it's a list of what we've eaten !
I think the best way to eat healthily is to think about what you eat rather than just consuming food.
This thread seems to have started some people down that route and they can only benefit from it.
Some may just want a quickfix weight loss strategy and others may just want to snipe and s**** from the sidelines, however whatever your motives thinking about, and planning, what you eat is on of the most empowering things you can do regarding your own health and wellbeing 😀
[i] what you eat is on of the most empowering things you can do regarding your own health and wellbeing[/i]
It's a tricky area though, isn't there a risk of such focus on one aspect of life can lead to eating disorders though? The phrase it empowered me seems so often given by suffers of anorexia or similar disorders.
I don't in anyway wish to imply that what you eat isn't important though!
SpaceMonkey.
Those Lentils sound like they're worth a try, nice one 😉
HillDodger.
I couldn't have put it better myself, Excellent 😀
S
It's a tricky area though, isn't there a risk of such focus on one aspect of life can lead to eating disorders though?
Point taken, but I meant 'empowering' more in the 'see through the diet book hype/advertisers BS' sense....
The modern, media fuelled, concept of dieting
Dieting has been around since Victorian times, it's hardly modern. It was really big in the 40s and 50s.
It's a tricky area though, isn't there a risk of such focus on one aspect of life can lead to eating disorders though?
Seems to me that if you are at risk of an eating disorder then you have some underlying problems, and focusing on food is just one way that those problems can manifest themselves. Focusing on food doesn't GIVE you mental issues 🙂
Re lentils - they are lovely, but only as part of something else or a vehicle for flavour. Don't think you have to plough through a bowlful of plain lentils 🙂 One of my faves is tomato and lentil soup.. oops! 🙂
Re the diet though, just to set the record straight I do think it's pretty good and will work well - but I don't think it's something I personally want to do.
Those Lentils sound like they're worth a try, nice one
Don't think you have to plough through a bowlful of plain lentils
Homemade lentil and smoked bacon soup is the nuts. Cook lentils according to instructions (in chicken stock, seasoning and a little garlic) > blend to thick soup consistency > add smokey bacon lardons.
Been out riding on my bike last night at a bmx race track for about 4 hours straight, and felt great, it hit home a little bit seeing a mate eating a burger and chips but 5 mins later i felt pretty good with not having it and sticking to some nuts 😀
anyway day 3 beings and i have sent out at least another 20 emails! LURKERS! haha.
also i know idave said dont do a daily weigh in but fyi, today is the first time i've hit into 11stone area in years all be it 11stone13lb 😀 and it will probably fluctuate a bit first but its still in the right direction so very pleased 🙂
I think my lowish 11stone target is easily doable in 3 weeks
^ woody - well said mate
spacemonkey - legend!
what you eat is on of the most empowering things you can do regarding your own health and wellbeing
I seriously doubt that. If you want your body to be healthy, [b]use[/b] it! I think sedentary inactivity is much more of a threat to health, and for that matter, if you're active you can pretty much eat what you like. I suspect it doesn't matter so much what you eat (so long as it isnt too much) as the context of eating, with snatched solo meals being the worst and relaxed and shared being the best
Only day two for me, I'm struggling a bit through lack of organisation.
Just had my lunch for the day at 10:30 as I was starving having missed breakfast and forgotten to take any snacks like nuts or carrots with me to work.
Might need a soup later on to keep me going until dinner time
get urself a chicken salad - none of that rich dressing tho
Lentil and bacon soup sounds delicious. I'll put it on the list.
I think Barnes may have a point. As long as you don't binge on junk, my money would be on exercise as having the most benefit.
wtf are you guys choosing to miss the point?! were not saying, fruit is bad or dairy is bad or anything is bad other than the obvious processed junk.. but what people who are ACTUALLY trying this is seeing what its like. I get wound up by people with textbook opinions on things when they have no first hand experience.
I think you void all rights of an opinion on this subject unless you follow it with an open mind and see how people do.
Its interesting, I think barnes should remove himself to somewhere wanted or grow up or even MTFU and give it a try rather than trying to jade everything.
Ok, I think I'm in for the next three weeks starting tomorrow.
It will be bread and pasta that I'll struggle with I reckon.
AND tomatoes...! Are tom's out? I know they're a fruit but a couple of people have mentioned eating them? Loads of sauces I make are tomato based (as are my curries :?)
all fruit is out, feel free to bend the plan and see what affects it has on you but id suggest trying 1 week without first
What day does everyone take the cyanide?
Its alright dave I've already snuck it in your tea of 2 carrots and a yoghurt haha 😀
pump track tonight? johns coming up
Have you not heard, Im doing the DDC. Therefore I probably wont be eating any tea at all!!
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/daves-diet-challenge
Think I've got band practice tonight