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Can I suggest that you ignore the scales and the bodyfat measures and just stare at yourself in the mirror until you've achieved perfection.
Can I suggest that you ignore the scales and the bodyfat measures and just stare at yourself in the mirror until you've achieved perfection
i can't stare through the tears, it makes my eyes sting 😥
I'll stare at you instead? Everyone needs a training buddy.
i do need a training buddy, need to move away from the machines and start free weights but got nobuddy to watch my technique and shout at me to 'break the edge' 'feel the burn' and 'take the pain' 🙁
[i]LOL Solo... you should jam your head between me an' Philly and do the 'motorboat'.[/i]
I do kinda like you guys, really.
I like our little team, Molgrips, TSY, Phil.
😉
[i]Everyone needs a training buddy.
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So, err.... when are we getting [i]together[/i] then ?....
😉 😛 😯
jota, idieters are not restricting calorie intake and much less likely to be losing muscle.
[i]got nobuddy to watch my technique and shout at me to 'break the edge' 'feel the burn' and 'take the pain'[/i]
Thought you wuz buzy checkin out the wimminz at da gym ?.
Eff off... I'm in no team!
its all about your peripherals solo, you never look directly at them, use mirrors etc 8)
sirriuzly i do need to speak to the gym chaps about showing me how to use the free weights [u]safely[/u]
Solo, have also sent you an email. thanks
Eff off... I'm in no team!
Don't look at me, I'm shy!
[i]its all about your peripherals solo, you never look directly at them, use mirrors etc[/i]
Ah, right, gotcha.
I must be really crap at this [s]letching[/s] beautful women appreication thing that allegedly occurs at the gym.
I wouldn't know though coz I aint bein down dat gym for a week.
8)
you are 2 teams yeti:
TeamSexyParty
TheSpecialGuys
[i]Solo, have also sent you an email. thanks
[/i]
YGM
🙂
[i]Eff off... I'm in no team![/i]
Aw, you see ?.
This is the colateral damage suffered by the Ironman competitor.
Too many hours spent alone, training for such a grueling event.
There, there, TSY, its Ok.
😉
you are 2 teams yeti:
Ok there are 2 teams I trust... one of them's me, and the other ain't you.
Besides visceral fat is the one that matters, how can that be measured accurately? a CT scan?
Is that not shown by the change in waist measurement? My weight's pretty consistent and though I'm losing some subcutaneous fat my trousers are much looser. I'm assuming that means I had some visceral fat to lose despite being light/skinny and that I've lost it?
Why just the low cal dieters?
the idaves seem to use the scales as their measure too
I use the scales because I have to walk past them to get from the shower to my pants drawer 🙂
Actually, I use them to make sure I'm [i]not[/i] losing weight, because I don't particularly want to lose any.
What the scales tell me is that my day off causes me to properly lard up compared with the previous week's losses. Still, gotta keep the fait,
I have no idea what the motorboat is, but I have an image of a hare krishna doing something improper between a hairy man in a sweatband and Borat.
(Off to eat my iLunch of quinoa kedgeree with a side order of mind bleach)
iKeep iThe iFaith
[i]Ok there are 2 teams I trust... one of them's me, and the other ain't you.[/i]
TSY.
Whats your [i]problem[/i] with team [i]membership[/i] ?.
🙂
[i]I have no idea what the motorboat is[/i]
Its something to do with Weddings, IIRC...........
.........
😉
EDIT:
Dang !, TSY's probably out there now pounding those bricks in his team of 1.
No real problem Solo.. I'm just being a tit. Played footy for a team for years.
Motorboating is when you put your head between two tits and make the noise of an outboard motor with them...
Does the iDave rely on pulses and beans a lot? I really struggle with those (Crohns) but I noticed that Mike had said it had helped his ulcerative colitis a lot, so I'm more curious now.
In terms of carbs I really only eat basmati rice, gluten free oats, quinoa and buckwheat noodles, because I try to stick to low GI stuff.
[i]Mike had said it had helped his ulcerative colitis a lot, so I'm more curious now[/i]
I didn't read mike's post like that.
I thought he meant that since he cut out the food items, as suggested on the iDave diet.
That he had noted an easing of his condition.
I may have read that wrong then.
May be Mike can come back and clarify.
LMP.
I wouldn't pressume to give advice to someone with Crohns, but seems that you are curious.
If you mail me I'll happily send you a copy for you to read.
Others have contacted me for a copy.
Its no trouble.
🙂
I started in Jan, lost nearly 3 stone and have gone from tight 42" waist jeans to 38's almost falling down (but not quite into 36's cos of my thighs!) I'd not felt so good in years either, loads of energy and my ulcerative colitis which has fluctuated between bad and really bad over the last 5 years seemed to have gone away. Then about 3 weeks ago a combination of my daughters birthdays, my birthday and a few other family events meant that my cheat day slipped into a cheat week and then a cheat fortnight (you can't turn down birthday cake when it's your kids parties)
Found the original post - I think Mike was saying that his UC improved on iDave, or that's how I read it anyway.
It sounds a lot similar to the Specific Carbohydrate Diet that is recommended for Crohns and UC - I've had some success with that in managing flare-ups in the past, and it eliminates starchy carbs altogether.
I'll drop you an email - I'm interested. I would like to shift some weight. I'm right at the upper end of what's normal for my height. I do have a medium to large frame so I'm never going to be a skinny minnie, but I would like to drop some weight for my race in September. In the last 18 months or so. I already dropped around 8lbs and a dress size after going GF, but I can't seem to manage to shift any more. I thought I ate quite healthy but after keeping a food diary for 2 weeks I realised I ate quite a lot of starchy foods and cheese, plus drinking tea with milk in all day!
[i]Found the original post - I think Mike was saying that his UC improved on iDave, or that's how I read it anyway.
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Yeap, I'm with you there, but I would have attributed this to what he had cut-out of his diet to follow iDave, rather than considering that pulses might have had a unique effect.
[i]Specific Carbohydrate Diet[/i]
I have recently stumbled across some comments about this, but haven't ventured to far into this territory, myself.
LMP.
Mail me if you wish, and I'll shoot a copy of iDave's diet over to you.
Whether or not the info is of any use is another matter.
🙂
Tried the IDave route for about 2 months and lost a reasonable amount of weight, but hated virtually every meal I ate.
I'm not a great lover of meat of any type and all the preparation just didn't fit in with the way my life works.
However, went on holiday to Portugal for a week and ate 'normally' (cereal for breakfast, pizza, beer etc) and put 2/3 of the weight back on.
Since getting back I found a website called Food Focus. It takes some details about weight, age, activity level etc and allows you to enter a daily food log, exercise log and body log. As long as you put the data in, you can track your input and output of calories.
It really makes you think what you are putting in your mouth and how much over your daily limit you will be by eating that extra choccy digestive.
So far, I'm about 5kg down in a just over a month. Haven't been hungry and I eat what I want. For example, keep the calories down with lean meat and veg during the day on Friday cos I know I'm going out with the lads for a few on Friday night.
I also only get weighed on a Friday morning. Always hate making a monday even worse by finding I've put a pound or two on over the weekend.
I really wish I could have stuck to the IDave plan, but I couldn't, it was too much hassle for me. I'm sure some of you will think adding to your food log 4 or 5 times a day will also be too much hassle.
Bagstard - Member
jota, idieters are not restricting calorie intake and much less likely to be losing muscle.
ahh........ I see, with you now
so far I've lost 2.5" off my beer gut 'muscle'
I'm not a great lover of meat of any type
Meat is not a required part of the diet, it's just something you CAN eat a lot of if you wish.
[i]ahh........ I see, with you now
so far I've lost 2.5" off my beer gut 'muscle'
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I do find it amusing to see people post comments like that, when they themselves decide an online video is not worth watching... before they've watched it.
Jota180.
You and your method have been accepted for the results you claim you are happy with.
Yet you flame others.
BagStard has had great results and FWIW, I believe he is having a better time at meal time than calorie counters.
But thats just my personal opinion which I have tried to spare you.
But you are taking the biscuit.
So I'll make you an offer, I won't dish calorie counting, so long as you leave off prescribing exercise regimes with dietary caloric deficits, and the iDiet.
I'm going on holiday for three weeks. I won't be able to arrange iDiet food, so I'm going to try just minimising carbs and calories overall. I 'll let you know how I get on!
[i]I'm going on holiday for three weeks[/i]
US ?
EDIT:
Happy hols to team MolGrips, btw.
😀
My UC has definitely improved a lot since I started iDave, I do think it's probably more about what I've cut out than anything else. Gluten especially as I have noticed that if I have more than a couple of slices of bread or a mediumish pizza with a homemade base on my cheat day frequency and urgency increase dramatically 😥
This is the first time since being diagnosed that I've really bothered to change my diet though as every time I've asked if there is any specific foods I should eat/avoid my consultant goes on that UC is a disease and diet pays no part in it and that medication or surgery are the only treatments 😯
I have found that the only legumes I can tolerate in any quantity are lentils and butterbeans and moderate amounts of kidney beans. Chickpeas and every other tinned/dried bean I've tried don't really agree with me although chickpea flour is fine.
Solo: yes, USA.
I'm going on holiday for three weeks. I won't be able to arrange iDiet food, so I'm going to try just minimising carbs and calories overall. I 'll let you know how I get on!
Before and after pics??
I'm sure some of you will think adding to your food log 4 or 5 times a day will also be too much hassle.
Tried that. Found it hard to keep on top of.
Am enjoying iDiet, but mainly because it has allowed me to take on much of the cooking at home and learn something new (Mrs North is a good cook, so I always relied ion her).
Am losing weight steadily. But I mainly put that down to the lack of junk food and recent return to exercise. iDiet is just a dietary extra for me.
I [url= http://www.myfitnesspal.com/miketually ]logged my food for a couple of days using MyFitnessPal[/url] and found it to be a complete pain in the arse to do. Was dead easy if eating from packets (like [url= https://twitter.com/miketually/status/207798515710177280/photo/1 ]my lunch today[/url]) but we cook most meals from ingredients and I only eat part of the food cooked for the four of us so it was just guesswork.
Interestingly, I never once hit the calorie target the site suggested for me, despite one of the days featuring five pints and tapas, though the tapas quantity was total guesswork so I probably did.
[i]Interestingly, I never once hit the calorie target the site suggested for me, despite one of the days featuring five pints and tapas, though the tapas quantity was total guesswork so I probably did[/i]
Taubes makes an interesting proposal in that video, where he suggests that missing / exceeding your caloric target by as little as 20 Cals may lead to weight gain.
I know I couldn't accurately plot my caloric intake to within 20 cals, in order to maintain a certain weight.
Jota180.
You and your method have been accepted for the results you claim you are happy with.
Yet you flame others.
Who the hell have I flamed?
Throughout this thread I've not once said the idave didn't work, just that it wasn't for everyone
In fact other have posted that my method is no good and I will lose muscle not fat.
The OP is about downsides to idave, I posted why it didn't work for me
You seem to pop up on every one of these threads usually posting far more guff than anyone else, getting all anti if anyone so much as dares to question it, it's like denying the holocaust with you.
it's like...
German Military Fitness classes coming to a park near you this summer.
[i]jota180 - Member
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Dude. It aint me.
Theres lots of people who are much smarter than me, like Mr Taubes, who are suggesting that focusing on the insulin response is more likely to be the answer.
But, you go count your cals, its no skin off mine.
But I do find it incredible that you can't find an hour to listen as to why [b]Mr Taubes[/b] ( not me ) says that counting Cals isn't what he thinks to be the an answer.
Although he does admit to once thinking it was as simple as Cals in = Cals out.
You know, the law of thermal dynamics, etc.
Actually, I'd be interested to read why you think he is wrong, if only you'd listen to him / watch the video.
But I do find it incredible that you can't find an hour to listen as to why Mr Taubes ( not me ) says that counting Cals isn't what he thinks to be the an answer
Maybe you're allowed to listen to vids at work, I can't - I work in a studio with live feeds so none of the PCs have speakers
There - not so incredible really
Solo - I'm actually going to try and watch it tonight.
I don't count calories precisely but have an awareness of how much is in what I'm eating. I reckon I could guess my daily totals to within 10%.
I probably sub-conciously factor what I'm eating in calorie terms against what I'm expending and I maintain my weight accordingly.
[i]Maybe you're allowed to listen to vids at work, I can't - I work in a studio with live feeds so none of the PCs have speakers
There - not so incredible really
[/i]
My PC has no speaker....
I have headphones...
And, I have tinterwebs at home.
Anyway, I tried to engage in sensible debate, but unless you're ready to listen to a well constructed proposal by someone like Taubes, or whomever.
Then I feel theres little more I can contribute for you and any debate about the validity of cal counting.
[i]I probably sub-conciously factor what I'm eating in calorie terms against what I'm expending and I maintain my weight accordingly.
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I will confess to falling into the cal counting thing, in the past.
But Taubes makes some interesting points in the vid.
Like, the law of TD, it describes whats happening, but doesn't explain why it happened.....
Also, he indicates that people wrongly associate physical activity with a reduction in body fat.
But that actually, its a coincidental outcome and not directly a result of.
But, you have to bare in mind, that if the result is all you're after, then its hard to argue that working hard to reduce BF, can not work.
I will admit its slightly frustrating that people wont watch the video, if only to explain to me why Taubes is wrong, scientifically.
German Military Fitness classes coming to a park near you this summer.
Why not Al Qaeda Boot Camps in a park near you (just without the guns and bombs and jihadism).
What did I say?