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Would it be possible to get your job and do it competantly without a degree?


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 4:55 pm
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get it, no
do it, yes


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 4:55 pm
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I learnt to do some research and see if my subject area had been covered by someone else in the recent past.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 4:56 pm
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Get the job you'd need one and to do it you would need the same set of skills and knowledge that someone with a degree would have... I'm a researcher in a University.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 4:59 pm
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no

a Ph.D is fairly essential


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 4:59 pm
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I drive a truck.
what do you think?


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:00 pm
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I haven't got one so not very i'd say!


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:00 pm
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(foundation degree)

get it, no
do it, yes


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:00 pm
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Get it, no
Do it, sort of - need a lot of training, I do know one guy who spent thousands on specific training and managed to get a job in it. Hard to get into a role without a degree that would provide the training.

Oracle Apps developer.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:02 pm
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To do the job I'm in now (as a recent graduate)? No.

To do the job that it will morph into over the next year? Definitely.

Geotechnical technician, advancing on to be and engineer.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:03 pm
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Funny that this thread has come up, I've just had to get an advert checked before applying because I was sure I'd missed 'graduate opportunity'/'degree level' etc. But I hadn't 😀

I see so many job description where I've got more than enough experience but no (usually unspecified) degree. It seems to be getting more strict as well, 2/3 years ago I was getting interviews despite a degree being 'essential' but recently...


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:03 pm
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Medical/Academic Librarian. You need a Masters to get the job.

You could do it without one TBH. Although I do still use bits of my Masters, and having experience of being a uni student helps in the job.

So a degree is [i]sort of[/i] essential I guess.


 
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Get it - Yes (Graduate scheme...)
Do it - Yes (Naval Architect)


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:03 pm
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Get it - Yes
Do it - Yes

University Lecturer.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:03 pm
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Cant get or do my job without a degree.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:04 pm
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Probably wouldn't get my job without a degree unless you had other experience or knew someone. Easily do it without one.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:05 pm
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Very job-specific

But I would argue that

1. Very/Quite for getting a job
2. Increasing less for doing it

But expect a rise in better vocational training over the next few years so 1 may become less so!


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:06 pm
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Get it no. Do it no. (Medic)


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:07 pm
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To get it yes, to get on the diploma course yes. To do it no.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:17 pm
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Blimey jet - you had me worried. I have been reading the responses in relation to the thread title rather than the actual OP (hence reversed everything and hence my longer winded response 😉 ). I thought you were joking, then I re-read the OP. Phew!!


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:17 pm
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Get it - Yes
Do it - Yes

University Lecturer.

ditto


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:18 pm
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I'm a carpenter , i went through a 5 year apprenticeship then another couple of years mastering my trade. I'm now a member of the guild of master carpenters, I could of trained to be a doctor in less time. 😆 So yes easily get my job without a degree.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:19 pm
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I think you have to be able to tie your own shoe laces to do my job but I'm not sure all my colleagues are fully qualified 😆


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:23 pm
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get it no
do it no
service engineer(forklifts)
but you do need trade qualifications(ie city & guilds etc)
p.s ive got a mech engineer degree


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:24 pm
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Get it, no. (at the moment. Company want make it degree applicants only)
Do it, no.

Saying that, I can think of only 3 other people out of a maybe 100 who don't have a degree in this job. I don't, but no one has ever made me feel inferior about it. If you can do the job, that's good enough.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:32 pm
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To get the job - yes (but only because the company specified it)
To do it - no


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:36 pm
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Get it, yes.
Do it, no.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:37 pm
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full time parent..

If you haven't got a PhD from the University of Life before you start, you will have by the time you finish..


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:54 pm
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Mine requires a science degree and preferably a science Ph.D too.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 5:56 pm
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A dgeree of bullshit is essential in my line of work.


 
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Ideal, Takisawa can I work there sounds spot on 😆


 
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If you applied to work for me and had a degree - I WOULDN'T employ you unless it was VERY VERY specific and an advantage to a particular project.
Experience and skills come a long way further up the list than a degree - if you aren't able to do the job all the degrees in the world won't help.....


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 6:01 pm
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There's no job that needs a degree. Some may need advanced / specialist technical knowledge, but you can get that without going to University. However, lot's of employers require you to have a degree to be able to apply for their roles.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 6:02 pm
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You couldn't teach what I know 😉


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 6:03 pm
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Management consultant here and yes you could do my job without a degree. But would a client pay for you without one? No.


 
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You wounldn't teach what I know 😉


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 6:07 pm
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To get it, no. For the mean time (i can see it being graduate applicants only soon).

To do it. Not necessarily (obviously).

The thing is you need a lot of hands on technical experience and the office based engineering experience a graduate may be more suited to.

I just struggle through both.

Subsea Engineer, north sea drilling rig.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 6:08 pm
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Could get my current job without it - with about 7-8 years of experiance in drilling.

How ever to advance from where i am you need a degree, those without degrees are doing them distance learning

Sand control engineer in the oil field.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 6:09 pm
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Foot flaps there are some jobs that absolutely require a degree: eg, medic, dentist, optician. There are also jobs where It would be very difficult though not impossible to do without a degree, e.g. a research scientist or a statistician.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 6:10 pm
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no
no
IT, Degree got me my first job, since then it's been skillset, skillset, skillset.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 6:10 pm
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No.

No.

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Can I be the first to point out that one of the possible answer combinations is illogical?


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 6:39 pm
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Essential (another uni' lecturer here).


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 6:43 pm
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yes + postgrad
yes

lawyer


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 6:46 pm
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Probably need one to get in here now, all the new / young people seem to have them.

no, I'm the only one on my team without one and am by far the most experienced and knowledgeable there.

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yes + postgrad
yes

lawyer

When I was a young customs officer, many year ago we did bail applications and remands in front of a bench of mags - no legal training and no prosecuting solicitor present - always a touch nervous for those 😀


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 6:57 pm
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Electrical design engineer here with only an onc. Experience got me the job over a couple of straight out of uni lads. However.... If I try with a consultancy they like degrees so in a very professional then probably!


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 7:01 pm
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BA Hons in History.
Painter and decorator to pay the bills. Im great in a pub quiz though!


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 7:15 pm
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Zero for me.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 7:27 pm
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I teach physics to 16-18 year olds

So yes you need a degree

I couldn't imagine being able to do my job without a physics degree. Even though I don't use all the specific content of my degree


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 7:32 pm
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Need a degree to be a teacher. My master and PhD are not much use though.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 7:45 pm
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Get job without degree:- no

Do job without degree:- no

Vet, no other way to acquire the knowledge and practical training without a degree course.

There are several occupations where you have to be registered with a professional body to work in that field and a relevant degree is part of qualifying for membership eg doctors, lawyers etc

However I am sure that lots of jobs that require a degree to get the job completely fail to utilise the knowledge gained in the pursuit of the degree. Some jobs that have gone to degrees from more vocational training have had problems because of this drive for degrees eg nursing.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 7:47 pm
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Get the job - no
Do the job - no

As a community development officer I can safely say academic knowledge/skills would in no way prepare you for how social housing really is. Saying that I did artificial intelligence at uni so what the hell would I know?!?


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 8:03 pm
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PhD essential for me and further qualifications beyond that too


 
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No and no for my job but I work in alternative dispute resolution and I don't think you can do a degree in that.

Mrs Labsey works in a lab and you need to either have a degree or be working towards one (placement) to get a job there. She has a masters.

She reckons that it makes naff all difference to the job (QC) as it's pretty much about learning routines and being able to prioritise work.


 
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Get it - Yes
Do it - Yes

University Lecturer.

Really? In Creative Arts? At Staffs?

Wow that place has come up


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 8:19 pm
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We talked about this previously.

IMO, in my trade (IT) , a degree gets your foot in the door. After that, worthless. I know very few people in my trade who has a degree in an IT related subject. I'll go further and say that all the people I know in my trade who have a PHD, don't have a PHD in an IT related subject.

I could debate on the comparison between IT people with a degree and those without, but that's probably not a constructive path to take. And it's fairly subjective too.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 9:42 pm
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One could neither get nor do my jobs* without a PhD or higher.

*I wear a few different hats, but they are all academic related.


 
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My specific job role - no you couldn't get it without (graduate civil engineer)

To do the job - you COULD learn from on the job training but most firms will insist on some form of either degree of HND or HNC (not sure what's what) to degree level. Most definitely to be a chartered engineer!


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 9:55 pm
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Not at all but the ability to spell commonplace words is.


 
Posted : 09/01/2013 10:07 pm
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Nurse and all newly qualifieds are at degree level. When I did it and qualified it's a Diploma in Higher Education, but I'm topping it up to a degree and hopefully move up to Band 6 and beyond. Assistant practioners need a foundation degree in Health and social care also


 
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Nurse and all newly qualifieds are at degree level. When I did it and qualified it's a Diploma in Higher Education, but I'm topping it up to a degree and hopefully move up to Band 6 and beyond. Assistant practioners need a foundation degree in Health and social care also


 
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I also work in the oil industry (QHSE Manager). The big problem we find is that people fresh faced out of uni with degrees lack the practical skills that can take years to develop. Somebody that has a degree does not make them any more competent at doing a job then somebody who has gone down a different route i.e. on the job work experience.

Some people can't handle the pressure of exams but can be brilliant at what they do at their jobs. We sometimes find that new graduate engineers think they know a lot more than they actually do and quickly have to be brought back down to earth.

A degree is a great thing to have but i don't believe it is essential if you are capable of doing a job and have gained skills and experience by other means.


 
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My first job - yes, wouldn't have got it otherwise; useful foot in the door
My current job - no, my experience got me this one


 
Posted : 10/01/2013 12:22 pm
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Get yes, do no.
I am a primary teacher


 
Posted : 10/01/2013 12:45 pm
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No but in most companies yes.
Again no.
I currently teach and do consulting for many degree only organisations my work bio lists me as the leading expert in the country in what I do.


 
Posted : 10/01/2013 12:52 pm
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Got two degree in Mathematics and Computer Vision. Both essential to *this* job. You'd be utterly out of your depth without the correct degree.

Neither was essential in my first job (Oracle related), which ended up being better paying than this one.


 
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Get it - No, most places require a Masters or at least be prepared to go get one.

Do it - Yes, writing the same old boring reports week after week after week is driving me [b]INSANE[/b].

I can't stand another 10 to 15 years of doing this so I'm looking to go back to software engineering or I'll do another Masters just so I can change jobs. Big risk though.


 
Posted : 10/01/2013 1:35 pm
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In a similar way to nursing, new entrants to the profession (Paramedic) now need a discipline-specific Diploma or Foundation Degree as a minimum. Many paramedics currently working do not hold this qualification, as the system used to be much more like an apprenticeship with some intense training weeks/exams thrown in, led by the employing ambulance services.


 
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Qualified Glacial Geomorphologist now work in pr - so no and no.
Do our new recruits need one - no and no - sharp, alert mind and good writing skills are all that's needed.


 
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Get it-no
Do it-no

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Get it, no.
Do it*, no.

*Because I have skills learned through one of my degrees I get given other stuff to do that no-one else could do/or cost £1000s for the IT contractor to do.


 
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There's no job that needs a degree. Some may need advanced / specialist technical knowledge, but you can get that without going to University. However, lot's of employers require you to have a degree to be able to apply for their roles.

You'd be ****ed without a degree in most engineering design jobs. Even if you could learn the engineering side from others in the office as you went allong, you'd probably need a degree in mathematics too because A-level didn't go far enough!


 
Posted : 10/01/2013 2:01 pm