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I'll pitch in with this to start:

Tax ALL single occupancy golf umbrellas when not used on a golf course. Should raise a fortune!


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 9:41 am
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Tax the private sector, they pay my wages don't you know.

Or [url= http://robinhoodtax.org/ ]Robin Hood Tax[/url]


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 9:42 am
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Tax pointless, repetitive posts from people who have no intention of listening to what anyone else says on this forum.

😉


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 9:43 am
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Sack the police and asked a few off here to step in in a "Big Society" style

They can spot a thief purely by his grammar and spelling - it's impressive stuff


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 9:45 am
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Tax politicians' hot air.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 9:47 am
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Cut VAT to 15%, raise income tax allowance to £10k and increase income tax rates by from 20p to 25p and 40p to 45p and scrap 50p rate.
Government underwrite of all SME loans <£20m. No underwriting of any real estate loans.
Make Project Merlin (the lending to UK business) legally binding on banks, but with the underwrite in place to protect bank capital - dont believe you can have it both ways - require increased lending, but demanding capital rebuilding at the same time.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 9:52 am
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Lend me a Fiver.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 9:55 am
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Lets all go to the pub to discuss it - the tax raised from that alone will solve the worlds problems 😆


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 9:58 am
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Charge everyone a fiver for admission to sessions where you get to watch Fred Goodwin and Bob Diamond be put in a sort of Big Brother house. Except its a damp tower block in Birmingham, and they're living on income support


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:04 am
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Buy as much uk made bike stuff as you can.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:11 am
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For starters, make Vodafone and Philip Green pay the correct amount of tax.

I would also reinstate the EMA and scrap tuition fees as cuts to education are a very short term policy and not good for the fabric of society.

no idea how to sort the rest of it, maybe cuts to overseas aid and contributions to Europe.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:20 am
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Seeing as we own most of the banks, we could start applying the same 'wage restraint' as in the rest of the public sector


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:23 am
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A levy on all righteous indignation?


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:24 am
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A levy on lefteous indignation (for balance) 😉


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:25 am
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Treat MP's pay like student loans. If MPs leave and make lots of money on boards etc they should have to pay back their salaries and expenses.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:28 am
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Charge everyone a fiver for admission to sessions where you get to watch Fred Goodwin and Bob Diamond be put in a sort of Big Brother house. Except its a damp tower block in Birmingham, and they're living on income support

I'd pay at least a tenner for that. Maybe even more.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:28 am
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It's not a crisis, it's supposed to be like this


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:33 am
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Collect taxes

Do what the US do and chase down every cent owed whether or not you're living somewhere else for half the year


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:38 am
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Cut VAT to 15%, raise income tax allowance to £10k and increase income tax rates by from 20p to 25p and 40p to 45p and scrap 50p rate.

I think that's pretty much the same as what ernie was recommending (granted he probably didn't include abolishing the top rate 😉 ) 😯 FWIW I agree with both of you - the trouble is it's presumably not politically that great an idea as it squeezes the middle - all those floating voters.

I also agree with making the rich corporations and fat cats pay the tax they're supposed to - what are your thoughts on this, Stoner? Would it really drive business away, or would they actually just suck it up as they need to trade here?


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:44 am
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All money from X Factor / reality TV phone-in voting goes directly to Nurses.
More industry in the UK for things like Super Yachts so the richest 1% spend their disposable income here.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:47 am
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Govts could solve these crises tomorrow, problem [for them] is getting re-elected after doing so. The troughs have been made too irresistible.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:53 am
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make the rich pay much much more basically.I agree with stoner and raising of the tax threshold to a reasonable level
Obviously I would tax the rich much more and in particular have aproper go at ta avoidance as the rich act like the greeks whilst the poor have to pay our share

A Parliamentary Question by Jonathan Reynolds revealed that the team recovered £162m from the ultra wealthy people that it deals with. Two years ago, these same individuals were handing over just £25m in tax.
“The great majority of our very wealthy individuals aim to be, and are, tax compliant,” said a spokesman for HM Revenue & Customs. “We won’t hesitate to take action against the small minority who bend or break the rules, to recover additional tax that should be due.”
HNWU deals with personal tax affairs of about 5000 of the UK’s wealthiest individual customers; typically, those individuals with £20m or more in assets. The amount it is clawing back may be the tip of the iceberg, with an estimated £45 billion a year lost to unpaid tax.

I would penalise people punitively for tax avoidance..yes I know it is legal but it is immoral.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:55 am
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TBH corporate tax for multinationals is not that black and white. Tax treaties on avoiding the double taxtion of profits is "fair and equitable". A lot of the hyperbole confuses what is taxable profits and what is repatriated taxed profits. But what doesnt help is people like David Hartnett "doing deals" behind closed doors. Tax demands should be fully disclosed and the calculations shown. It does nothing for either side of the arguments to have obfuscation. Just as much as [i]hoi polloi[/i] want to feel corporates are being taxed appropriately it's in the corporations' interests to demonstrate how they are doing so, rather than just claim that "they pay all taxes legally required" - they need to justify [i]bona fide[/i] tax planning schemes as being fair and equitable, not just a mechanism to maximise shareholder wealth (which is a LEGAL obligation, not just a selfish imperative).


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 10:56 am
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Government underwrite of all SME loans <£20m

Madness!
Do what the US do and chase down every cent owed whether or not you're living somewhere else for half the year

Non-US resident US citizens don't pay full income taxes, just the federal component - and even then only after the tax-free threshold and after the deduction of taxes already paid in countries with which the US has a double taxation treaty.

Besides, why should people pay income tax in a country where they don't live?


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 11:08 am
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The banks still have to lend on standard credit criteria, but the underwrite should allow their balance sheet capital to go further, and reduce the interest rate payable by the borrower.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 11:12 am
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Besides, why should people pay income tax in a country where they don't live?

Because they usually want to remain a citizen?


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 11:17 am
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quantitatively 'ease' goverment debt down to nothing. it'll mean a hit in inflation, but then we can lower tax a bit and everyones happy 🙂

also, no vat on bike related kit

on a serious note, more tax on fags/booze, more cuts to unemployment benefit after xx days (after that, minimum wage jobs for the council with flexy hours to allow for interviews etc are available)


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 11:22 am
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legalise all drugs, tax them. Job done!


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 11:29 am
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Because they usually want to remain a citizen?

A bit dangerous making paying tax a condition of citizenship, don't you think?


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 11:47 am
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Cut taxes. Cut public spending more. Watch the economy boom.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 11:50 am
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[Dons on Flak jacket]

Difficult times means difficult choices and I think the current coalition are not doing that bad a job!

There are too many people who simply cannot grasp the idea that we need to live within our means. On the whole I don;t think there doing a bad job in the whole.

Flame away!

[scurries into bunker]


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 11:59 am
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Buy Hope stuff instead of Shimano


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 12:02 pm
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Cut VAT to 15%, raise income tax allowance to £10k and increase income tax rates by from 20p to 25p and 40p to 45p and scrap 50p rate.
Government underwrite of all SME loans <£20m. No underwriting of any real estate loans.
Make Project Merlin (the lending to UK business) legally binding on banks, but with the underwrite in place to protect bank capital - dont believe you can have it both ways - require increased lending, but demanding capital rebuilding at the same time.

Do all that, and..
Nationalise all the utilities Power, water, transport.
Exit Europe immediately, negotiate trade agreements along the lines of old common market.
Invest in Tide based renewable power source as well as solar, reduce wind.
Stop all welfare based payments, and employ more on all of the above or pay them nothing.
Institute a care for the community programme which also employs folk, there must be availability of employment for all.
Only pay welfare to the genuinely disabled, aged or infirm
Institute a National Pay scale with upper limits beyond which no-one gets paid, thereby reducing 'envy' bring more of a sense of fair play to folks working lives.
Nationalise all left wing cycling sites then ban all their moderators.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 12:02 pm
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Tories and Labour would have you believe that they know exactly what to do to solve things, and that they are different, but in reality there is little to choose between them.

They are fooling you into thinking they are in control. In reality nobody is in control of what is the living breathing worldwide interconnectedness of economy.

In truth only time can solve it

It will get better by itself and then whoever is in power will claim credit for it


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 12:04 pm
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Cut taxes. Cut public spending more. Watch the economy boom

boom as in blow up?


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 12:09 pm
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Cut taxes. Cut public spending more. Watch the economy boom.

Well it looks like exactly that is going to happen in the US since they couldn't agree anything. We can all see what happens there...

We could also stop trying to 'punch above our weight' on the 'world stage' and not go to war at the drop of a hat. I suspect that [i]might[/i] save a bob or two...


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 12:44 pm
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Reduce business rates to zero for all businesses with a T/O of less than £2million. At the same time reduce emloyers NI to zero for businesses with less than 5 employees, then on a sliding scale for 5 - 50 employees.

This would really help small businesses and encourage them to take on new employees.

Scrap a large amount of current planning regulation, especially for small projects which have minimal impact. (two examples, had to egt PP to install roller shutters, would need PP to replace wooden windows with UPVC, this on a non listed building outside of any conservation area. This would both allow small businesses and individuals a chance to grow and develop without planning getting in the way, it would also mean saving as you wouldn't need so many planning officers as they would only need to deal with large schemes.

Increase the income tax threashold to whatever minimum wage for 40hrs per week is (currently £12646). Reduce tax credits, it's your choice if you want kids, you pay! Replace a proportion of benefits, (especially for those on benefits with large families) with food stamps, some of which can only be spent on fruit and veg.

I could go on...


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 12:55 pm
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Tax rudness

Tax facebook and twitter posts

Tax overweight people

Force the banks to serve free booze to customers

Put a tax on TV broadcasting companies who play repeats at xmas

Tax empty bedrooms

Appoint MP's according to population age bands, lets have some kids offering ideas in parliment, slanging it out with pensioners!

Make Coventry a tax haven

Scrap 1p & 2p coins

Charge a tax on all credit card payments and online payment

Stop people posting on forums after they have had one too many at lunch time 😉

😯 😉


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 1:37 pm
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Raising the level at which income tax is charged to above £40k and just taxing the super-rich and also not letting off Vodaphone and Philip Green as above.

We pay far more income tax than we should because we don't have accountants paid to tell us how to hide the income and dodge it more!

There is plenty of money in this economy still - I should know I'm pumping all my money into it every month at the moment!


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 2:20 pm
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Raising the level at which income tax is charged to above £40k and just taxing the super-rich

Nice socialist idea. The trouble is there aren't enough people earning more than that to pay for things, no matter how much you squeeze them.


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 2:41 pm
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Give the chancellor six months to turn it around without incurring massive job cuts or selling everything to the highest bidder. If it's still rubbish in 12 months time then shoot him and conscript Ed Balls to succeed him and repeat.

After that, hold an election for the post of chancellor.

*note - tongue in cheek*


 
Posted : 29/11/2011 2:57 pm
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"Raising the level at which income tax is charged to above £40k and just taxing the super-rich"

Poster's estimated income: £39k. 😉


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 9:01 am