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You wouldn't believe how wrapped up (no pun) I'm getting in buying a bloody hosepipe & reel.

They're all bloody awful/massive/cheap/nasty/badly designed - none of the conventional hozelock offerings are any good.

However the hozelock pico is quite attractive for pure tiny-ness and is actually quite well made - it's a bit short at 10m but if I made a long connector from some cheapy hose, it will also fulfil occasional car wash duties.

Thing is, and what the internet won't tell me...will the reduced hose girth work with a pressure washer?

Any experience of the little pico and especially with a pressure washer?


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 7:53 pm
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Edit. Thanks for moving 🙂


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 8:01 pm
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Pressure drop will probably reduce flow. According to homebase: 7.5mm vs 12.5mm which is quite a lot. Probably similar to having your tap half open.


 
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^ Thanks but that confuses me; why would the pressure drop? I guess it comes down to not knowing how much is actually consumed by a pressure washer. From memory at old place, tap didn't have to be on very much at all for PW to operate at full pelt. Anyhow, grateful for input but wondering if anyone has actually used them, or is knowledgeable in the school of flow rates 🙂


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 7:29 am
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Any flow along a pipe will have a pressure drop, it's the frictional losses down the pipe, and depends on a number of things, like flow rate and internal diameter. So smaller hose, with the same flow rate, will have a larger pressure drop along the same length, as a larger hose. So the pressure at the end is less.
Whether you'll notice this with water (it's also viscosity dependent), I don't know.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 7:59 am
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Thanks Rich, never thought like that - I assumed pressure would be greater on a narrower output with same flow. Twit!

I think I've answered own question now as max flow of my p/w is a mere 500L per hour, which is kind of says to me it probably doesn't give a toss about the pressure/flow of inlet, as long as it's getting [i]some[/i] water, the pump does all the work.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 8:11 am
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That's right. The pressure of the jet is from the pump (I guess, I don't have one).There will be a minimum flow rate and maybe a pressure but I guess it's fairly low.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 8:26 am
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diameter, length, bends, velocity etc all have an effect on pressure drop (look up the Darcy–Weisbach equation if you really want to know more).

at 10m long length it not going to have a major effect anyway, you wouldnt want a 30m+ hose at that diameter. You may notice that the performance out of the end of the hose without the pressure washer is a bit less. Most pressure washers these days can work fine from a water butt provided there is a slight bit of static head (ie the top of the water level is sufficiently higher than the pressure washer). A big pressure washer that needs lots of flow might suffer though and you would probably be using that with a lot more length of hose.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 3:10 pm
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Have you tried looking at Claber instead of Hozelock? I've found their stuff seems to be better designed and made. Think I got mine from easywatering.co.uk, who also do a good range of brass hose fittings.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 3:23 pm
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Pressure washers suck at the same time as the mains pressure is blowing. You should be fine I'd have thought, given that a pressure washer will work fine sucking water out of a water butt.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 3:39 pm
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If the Karcher demos are to be believed, a pressure washer uses far less water than a plain hosepipe.

Flow rate and pressure are two entirely different things 😀


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 3:45 pm
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Thanks, I think I'm going to have to get a normal one anyhow as I'll have to make such a long connector, I'll need a storage solution for that as well. 🙂

Bloody rubbish plastic crap everywhere though. I'll Google caber in a bit thank you.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 4:02 pm
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I bloody love this place.

Thanks onewheelgood, so much! Done my homework on claber for an hour and they're much more what I'm after. Bought a bargain from Amazon as well.

This with a 30m hose for £30 delivered, with all couplings and wall mountings.

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Or I could have bought this crap for same price with 10m less of hose.

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Thanks 😀


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 7:16 pm
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Thanks for the heads-up on Claber, onewheelgood!


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 8:13 pm
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Claber's standard hose kinks less that Hozelock's standard hose.

IMHO - For the best set up on the market available to Joe Public look no further than Claber's "Silver Green" hose.

http://www.claber.co.uk/en/products/irrigation/aboveground_irrigation.asp?sz=7&fm=

If you want a great spray gun you need a Hozelock multi spray gun pro 2688

http://www.hozelock.com/watering/spray-guns/spray-guns-2/multi-spray-gun-pro-2688.html

And yes I have worked for both these companies as a rep.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 8:19 pm
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Too late but tricolfex hose and gecka fittings FTW.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 8:34 pm
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JC, interesting stuff thanks.

I was thinking of buying this as a 'do it all' job, is it really that?

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Urgh plastic shite.

My mrs kills them for fun.

Longest lasting one we had had is the all metal bnq verve one i got for about 15 quid after going through 3 hoselock pieces of crap.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 8:43 pm
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Just by way of update and PSA, mine arrived today. Top notch piece of kit and the 30m of hosepipe was their lightweight silver elegant, which checking Amazon seems to go for nearly £50 in itself. It certainly is lightweight and the connectors are very nicely made.

Hosepipey & reel link below if your interested - you will be impressed!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B000RLIOJG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1424804671&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&keywords=claber+hose+reel&dpPl=1&dpID=41aUPUyn6nL&ref=plSrch


 
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I think that yellow hozelock pipe pictured is their heavy duty anti-twist pipe that's actually very good. I've had 50-odd meters for over 9 years and it's been fine compared to the lighter weight green stuff I had which twisted, delaminated and burst.


 
Posted : 24/02/2015 8:14 pm
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As I mentioned before


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Claber's standard hose kinks less that Hozelock's standard hose.

IMHO - For the best set up on the market available to Joe Public look no further than Claber's "Silver Green" hose.

http://www.claber.co.uk/en/products/irrigation/aboveground_irrigation.asp?sz=7&fm=

If you want a great spray gun you need a Hozelock multi spray gun pro 2688

http://www.hozelock.com/watering/spray-guns/spray-guns-2/multi-spray-gun-pro-2688.html

And yes I have worked for both these companies as a rep.

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Too late but tricolfex hose and gecka fittings FTW.

Hozelock owned Tricoflex before the recent by out now they are sister companies.
as thepurist says Tricoflex is a great hose as it's more of a commercial irrigation hose.

Tricoflex is defiantly worth the money as is Claber's Silver Green


 
Posted : 24/02/2015 9:14 pm