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Of course, this could all be an elaborate masterstroke of publicity.
🙂
Not to everyone, but this has clearly been damaging for what had become quite a strong brand.
Really? the 58 people who were giving judge pickles a reacharound on facebook and the 20 folks who probably wouldn't buy any but love the drama on here?
Are people suggesting that they change the name of their company because there has been a change of supplier?
They are still handmade in the UK. If they were being bashed out of a sweat shop on some far flung land by kids that live under cardboard boxes, whilst still being sold at a premium price, then I could see there being an issue.
In other news.
The Manchester Evening News isn’t printed in Manchester.
Walkers Crisps are delivered in lorries.
Foxes Glacier Mints do not contain any bits of fox or glacier.
Ben and Jerry don’t make ice cream.
Frankie & Benny aren’t actually real people.
Pretty much everything they are selling is made in Hebden bridge.
Apart from the actual trousers 🙂
Is it really that important they are made in Hebden Bridge or not?
I've said it before but they based their whole brand image on 'saving trouser town', the local trouser maker taught them everything they know etc. So is trouser town safe now and they can move on to saving other towns with a less prosperous post office, graphic designer and artisan belt maker? 🙂
In other news.
The Manchester Evening News isn’t printed in Manchester.
Walkers Crisps are delivered in lorries.
Foxes Glacier Mints do not contain any bits of fox or glacier.
Ben and Jerry don’t make ice cream.
Frankie & Benny aren’t actually real people.
None of which based their brand image and 'heritage' on their name.
If they were being bashed out of a sweat shop on some far flung land by kids that live under cardboard boxes, whilst still being sold at a premium price, then I could see there being an issue.
That's probably one for a couple years down the line.
UKTroCo, EngTroCo, ThaTroCo?
I think I'd be fairly cheesed off if I bought some Stilton, and it wasn't actually made in [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stilton_cheese ]Stilton[/url].
Are you suggesting their trousers are not made from actual trousers?
🙂
I think I'd be fairly cheesed off if I bought some Stilton, and it wasn't actually made in Stilton.
It's not. In fact that's a great example being made in Notts,Derbys and Leices.
And HeBTroCo products are not products of designated origin.
I'd bet you neither Debbie nor Andrew made those sausages
They used to, but sold up. (From memory to finance bigger and better premises and newer machinery). Andrew stayed on with the new owners but When they felt that the sausages were no longer being made to the quality that they used to work to, and production had moved from its Yorkshire beginnings to different sites around the country, they tried to buy the brand back with no success.
They now make Heck.
I like my trousers from Hebden Bridge.
Really? the 58 people who were giving judge pickles a reacharound on facebook and the 20 folks who probably wouldn't buy any but love the drama on here?
Many more people will be reading this thread than are posting on it. And I'd guess this forum was a springboard for the firm's original success - making the users here a big part of their core customer base.
As an aside, I often work on social media crisis simulations for corporate clients and PR professionals, and this would be a textbook storyline for one of them.
British gas ..... where does the gas come from
Aunt Bessie isn't knee deep in potato peelings either, the fibbing cow.
Pair Number 081 from the first run still for sale. Unworn. 😀
I'm told Yorkshire tea is from India ..... WTAF
How much will Shorties own brand trews cost? circa £20 and I'm in.
Really? the 58 people who were giving judge pickles a reacharound on facebook and the 20 folks who probably wouldn't buy any but love the drama on here?
They only reason I had a look at the original thread was that I was going to buy myself a pair for my 50th birthday in July. I liked the idea of what they were doing. As I said above if trouser town is now saved and they can move on to saving more gritty northern towns then I'm still in.
Pair Number 081 from the first run still for sale. Unworn
It's a bit like people selling their used knickers to middle aged men. The 'genuine article' touched by Brant & Ed
Too late. DD has sold them to a Japanese billionaire fetishist with a thing for men that smell of sawdust.
I’m sure that the stain on his conscience will be eased by the several thousand pounds in his PayPal account.
I'm still not clear on what this is referring to.According to the statement above they changed their website before this erupted.
1. Was there a statement saying "all of our trousers are made in Hebden Bridge"? No.
2. Did the marketing, narrative, photography and video focus exclusively on Shorties and no other manufacturer? Yes.
As I said, I think the issued statement is weaselly.
Pretty much everything they are selling is made in Hebden bridge.
Apart from the boots. Which are made in Stoney Middleton apparently. Which is still in the North (depending on one's perspecive of course - some might argue it's actually the North Midlands ... but I digress)
Anyway .. the boots look good. Quite fancy a pair myself! Boots from a Trouser Company eh? 😉
Apart from the boots. Which are made in Stoney Middleton apparently.
For now.
British Made To Last. The HebTroCo Moto Boot is hand made exclusively for us by [b]Britain’s last remaining heavy bootmaker[/b], using processes that go back to the 19th century.
Until they can find another one can do it better 🙂
It's all a bit rapha.
Next people will be saying that Rapha hasn't been around since everyone rode in grainy monochrome. This is all very disillusioning.
Saying they are made within 25 miles of hebden bridge does dilute the provenance somewhat, both Leeds and Manchester fall into that range.
HuddsTroCo. Better than all the 'udders.
IGMC
This is all very disillusioning
I know ... as a teenager in the '80s I was advised to "Have a Coke and a Smile" ...
Which is clearly all marketing baloney as everyone knows that coke doesn't make you smile ... it just makes you a self-obsessed, arrogant and obnoxious ***t.
I suppose this all means that Brant's promises to revive the coal mining industry are empty waffle as well then? Anyone heard owt about that?
Oh, just so it's clear, that's not something that's definitely fact. It's just what I wrote on an internet forum as opinion.
Until they can find another one can do it [s]better [/s] [i][b]cheaper[/b][/i]FIFY..
Until they can find another one can do it better cheaper
I rather think that what has actually happened here is they've gone and found a supplier that can do it.
At a basic level that's pretty fundamental to any business that uses a supplier.
This has rapidly become the silliest thread on here. Who knew that the manufacture and sale of moleskin trousers could be so polarising and arouse such passions? The Jeremy Corbyn and Brexit threads better watch out, there's a new kid on the block threatening to knock them off their perch.
Who knew that the manufacture and sale of moleskin trousers could be so polarising and arouse such passions?
I think it's the animal rights thing that gets people so wound up. A lot of townies don't understand that moles are vermin full stop.
I'm pretty miffed by the fact that a company called Shorty's are making trousers and not shorts. They clearly didn't think it through.
'm pretty miffed by the fact that a company called Shorty's are making trousers and not shorts.
For how long is a different matter
I think I'd be fairly cheesed off if I bought some Stilton, and it wasn't actually made in Stilton.
I rather think that what has actually happened here is they've gone and found a supplier that can do it.
Hardly saving Trouser Toon though is it. They've just become yet another boutique clothing manufacturer.
Yet another boutique clothing manufacturer...exactly how many do you think there are of those in the UK?
Such a load of twaddle on this thread. I believe butthurt whiners is the appropriate term. Well done Ed and Brant for having the entrepreneurial spirit to grow a new business.
Hardly saving Trouser Toon though is it. They've just become yet another boutique clothing manufacturer.
Quite. There's nothing wrong with that but the the spiel about saving trouser town is starting to look a little less than sincere.
I don't think I've ever seen Mark so active on a thread. 😕
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I like the look of those boots, I'd need to try a pair on first though.
Again, I think it's jealousy on here, 2 blokes making a go of a new business, loving what they're doing. Penned in 9-5ers stuck in a rut don't like it, start getting on their high horses because they're trapped in a vicious circle and want anyone who dares to buck the norm fail. Jealous.
I don't think I've ever seen Mark so active on a thread.
Cougar and Drac, too.
Still, you look after your mates, don't you?
the spiel about saving trouser town is starting to look a little less than sincere.
Indeed. Pimlico Plumbers are no longer based in Pimlico. They're over the Moat in Vauxhall. Nothing wrong with that, businesses move on. I don't believe Pimlico Plumbers ever based their cuddly marketing image on actually being in Pimlico, however.
Bucking the norm?
You mean not having your tongue rammed firmly...
I haven't really followed this since they launched with great fanfare and virtue signalling (#prayforhebdenbridge) but for those that formed their decision to spend money on them based upon this I can see why they would be miffed.
Not the first time I've seen someone launch an enterprise off the back of something elses coattails then change the narrative minitrue style when it no longer fits and I don't expect it will be the last.
Again, I think it's jealousy on here, 2 blokes making a go of a new business, loving what they're doing. Penned in 9-5ers stuck in a rut don't like it, start getting on their high horses because they're trapped in a vicious circle and want anyone who dares to buck the norm fail. Jealous.
Speaking purely for myself, it's not that at all.
It's the idea of getting a business started by using someone else's knowledge and skill, and a backstory of "saving trouser town"
Then as soon as the business is off the ground, dumping both.
If that's how it went down, I'm not jealous.
I thought it was great when they launched and it was such a success. I wasn't jealous then either.
I don't think I've ever seen Mark so active on a thread.
Should probably mention HebTroCo in the long unstickied forum update thread.
So.
2 local blokes come up with a marketing strategy for a local manufacturing firm.
Business takes off but local manufacturer cannot meet demand created by said blokes.
So blokes look for other firm to help meet this new demand.
Original firm see's their arse with this,f@~$ them off and go into direct competition with original blokes.
STW wrings hands.
Anything I've missed?
