[Closed] Have you ever paid for it?

I have never paid for sexual services and am happy with mrs iolo. I do however live in the darkest Austrian countryside where nearly every little village has a Night Club where ladies will dance for you and there's many many Laufhaus which are basically legal brothels. Many lonely farmers spend far too much time in these places.

it said 1 in 10 men had paid for sexual services.

I guess it depends what they classify as a service. I guess a lot of men on stag do's would go to a strip club or lap dancer - does that count?

*Cue 'I've been paying for it since I got married' jokes*

although technically part of the sex industry watching somebody take their clothes off seem a remote 'service' and not a direct relief as I meant 🙂

I don't object to the concept, but I'm far too tight to actually part with cash for it.

although technically part of the sex industry watching somebody take their clothes off seem a remote 'service' and not a direct relief as I meant

yes, but what did the people who produced that statistic actually mean? Sexual services is a bit vague really.

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Strip clubs and lap dances? Yes, lots, but not for a couple of years, it got to the point where I was bored in there, and there are much cheaper ways to be bored.

Actual sex? No, be like waving a pencil in the Albert hall.

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in the statistic they certainly implied 'it' was some kind of sexual transaction, not a lapdance.

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Those hookers are getting prettier....

[i] No, be like waving a pencil in the Albert hall.[/i]

That says more about you than them 🙂

Now, I've been doing that online dating thing. I spent a bit of time on the free one. Said I'd never go on the paid for ones - "If I was going to pay for it I'd want to be guaranteed some sex ho ho!" Got fed up with the free one, took a trial on a paid one... my sub automatically renewed without me realising and without me looking at the small print. I find out now I've paid £100!! and still had no damn sex out of it! Cancelled. Wish I'd spent the money ahem, elsewhere.
Can't do (and never have done) the paying for [i]it[/i] thing, though (now, because of my job and not the moral objections I had as a younger chap).

nope never but i work with a lot of folk who do - ..... pretty regularly..... when we are away with work - they make no secret of it and in some ways i think they look forward to going away with work for it ......

no holds barred either - playing with fire in places like west africa.

I think the sex industry should be regulated, insured, pay tax, monitored and open.

And no, never paid for sex and never will do.

I haven't. I've nothing against the idea and wouldn't think less of anyone that had, but I can't see as it's something I'd have wanted to do beyond morbid curiosity when I was younger and I'm married now so it's a moot point anyway.

Really, I guess it's not a world apart from dating anyway. A young lad spots a girl in a club, chats her up, buys her drinks all night, in the hope of a bit of a tumble later; or when older, dating, buying meals, hoping that a relationship might develop. But if all you're looking for is a quick round of Hide The Sausage then going to a prostitute just cuts to the point and removes the uncertainty. Plus I suppose, a professional might well be more skilled in the area?

I guess where I'm going here is the double standard attitude. If you told your mates you'd been with a sex worker I expect many would be shocked or otherwise react negatively; whereas if you told them you'd picked up a girl in a bar, wined and dined her all evening and then went back to her place for a night of freaky German monkey-sex, they'd all be patting you on the back.

no holds barred either

I see what you did there.

Does a divorce settlement count?

To be honest, I don't think I'd be able to anyway. The fact that you're with someone who fancies you is all part of it - to have someone putting out just because you've given them some cash.. naaah.

[quote=bongohoohaa ]*Cue 'I've been paying for it since I got married' jokes*

That's no joke!

In short, no. Lap dancing, yes, but I've not done that for 15 years, I came to the conclusion I was paying to be prick teased and that was a very stupid way to spend my money.

I've got a couple of friends who have when in Thailand but wouldn't even consider it in the UK.

An ex-work colleague did, after his marriage broke down and he didn't want to get back into dating and relationships at the age of 50+; he was happy with his single life / sport watching / golf at the weekend but still fancied some physical activity without emotional attachment.

As he said, they were selling something he wanted to buy, where's the problem?

It also in his own admission gave him the chance to 'spend time' with some stunning and highly capable ladies, significantly younger than him (not in a pervy way but also not 50+ either) who were totally out of his league even when he was in his twenties or thirties too.

He wasn't short of a penny or two so used the higher end of the market, and felt he got value in every sense.

Difficult to criticise. Sadly, no longer with us now.

Seconded the comment about West Africa; I've been to Nigeria about 90 times and there are plenty of opportunities but I've never taken that step, firstly because of the small matter that I did once stand up in front of my family and friends and make a solemn vow and secondly because messing around with locals is an invitation to big "wahalla", they will expect to stay in your hotel room for the duration of your trip and enjoy all the benefits of hotel life, constant electricity, free food and drink, the pool while you're out at work, cash for clothes and to give to relatives and if things go right, pregnancy and a British passport. It's a minefield and I've seen a few people who have fallen foul of it.

Friend of mine lives in Amsterdam and used to share his wireless internet with the brothel downstairs( when wireless was still new and a rarity) . They had an arrangement ...

secondly because messing around with locals is an invitation to big "wahalla", they will expect to stay in your hotel room for the duration of your trip and enjoy all the benefits of hotel life, constant electricity, free food and drink, the pool while you're out at work, cash for clothes and to give to relatives and if things go right, pregnancy and a British passport. It's a minefield and I've seen a few people who have fallen foul of it.

and thats if your one of the lucky ones.

Friend of mine lives in Amsterdam and used to share his wireless internet with the brothel downstairs( when wireless was still new and a rarity) . They had an arrangement ...

They borrowed his dongle?

They should pay me.

(Although they'd probably (*) demand a refund after).

* Definitely

the flat next door to us is a brothel, and has been for some time. I've no problems with it, and with (usually middle aged) quiet, discrete clients I prefer that than a noisy family in some ways!

Biggest gripe is the latest tenants seem to work odd hours, and quite often my doorbell goes at 5am or something but not sure what I can do about that.

I think they just let him plug it in downstairs for a while.

no holds barred either - playing with fire in places like west africa.

Are companies still giving HIV safety packs to staff who get posted in west africa with packets of condoms in them?

Never have, and not got any real inclination to. Frankly, I just don't have the money to play at the end of the market that I would like to aspire to, if you get my drift.
And I've been single for quite a long time.

1 in 10 means 1 in the first 10 should be saying yes...

Anyway, no.

They borrowed his dongle?

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OP its a massive industry with many serious issues like abuse, people trafficing, drugs etc

An ex-colleague who worked in Japan said the hookers where cheaper than a date given cost food and drink, especially when you adjusted for the probability of getting any action.

We often drive through Bois de Boulogne or Parc Vincennes in Paris and its quite eye opening the amount of battered white vans and/or girls stood along the roads - this is all in the middle of the day. I can't imagine what its like of an evening.

[i]quite often my doorbell goes at 5am or something but not sure what I can do about that.[/i]

Put a sign saying "Not a brothel" on it?

Does an unexpected 'happy ending' count?

Like iolo, we are on the Swiss German border and most villages have a strip club for the Swiss clients popping over for the evening... its pretty open and well managed..

Explain "unexpected" 😉

I got a 250 GBP happy ending in a massage parlor in Roponngi once, in my defense I was extremely drunk (and young & single at the time).

I will draw the line at buying a SC though, that's ridiculous money.

Now there's a strong argument to say we all have, wining and dinning gf and wives

No, no there isn't. If you don't know the difference you need some time on the thinking step.
Apart from the obvious bias in your statement.

Re: statistics, statistically, <1:10 would openly admit to paying for sex in indelible virtual ink on an internet forum!

I was single through my late-thirties and went on quite a lot of stag dos with a group of guys I new through my work... They were professional/financial/property sector, so quite laddish but with a thin veneer of corporate respectability.

I was utterly astounded at how normal it was for them to go off to brothels at the end of an evening and blow a couple of hundred Euros to snort coke out of a 19-year-old Latvian's balloon knot.

I recall one young fellow, a married father of 2 regaling over breakfast about how he'd been "pegged" by 2 Hungarians and had to stump up an extra €10 for lube!

I assumed that, being well into marriages and LTRs, they craved a bit of variety... As a singleton, I wasn't really going short of interesting and varied sex, and for me, I preferred the thrill of the chase rather than just skipping to the wet bit.

Quite a few years ago, I went on a stag do to a major European capital city. Now the groom revealed on the day that he wanted to pay a visit to a brothel while we were there and duly did so with us in attendance.

Now most of the women working there were stunning, I mean absolutely jaw-dropping lovely. However, several of us made it clear that we didn't wish to partake in the horizontal pursuits, but we were made very welcome and plied with reasonable quality lager whilst the participating members of our party got stuck in. The thing that will never, ever leave me is how some of my so called mates seemed to dehumanise the girls they'd hired in some way, as though they ceased to be proper human beings once their services were hired.

Two of the girls finished their shift while we were waiting for our mates and they asked if they could join us for a drink and a chat, it was all quite surreal. I spoke with one girl for about an hour. She was an art student from St Petersburg, who loved the city's architecture and was very fond of hanging out in galleries. She seemed grateful for the company, I felt saddened when one of the guys who'd partaken announced loudly that he'd "tried to go out for a bike ride but she was having none of it".

[i]tried to go out for a bike ride[/i] ❓

I felt saddened when one of the guys who'd partaken announced loudly that he'd "tried to go out for a bike ride but she was having none of it".

Dirty b*****d!

(Is this a bit of stealth moderation or is going for a bike ride a naughty thing?)

Argh! It's stealth moderation - "tried to go out for a bike ride" is not what I wrote. 😆

However, it's comedy genius on the part of the mods. Chapeau!

She seemed grateful for the company

Should read "She seemed grateful for being treated like a human being" as I don't suppose she gets much of that in her business - as you alluded to in your earlier text.

"tried to go out for a bike ride but she was having none of it"

Not everyone is into lycra.

"She seemed grateful for being treated like a human being"

Yes, I clumsily alluded to that.

Theres a pretty convincing argument that the monogamous relationship just isn't how we're wired upto work anthropologically speaking which is probably why the sex industry still thrives.

Not something I've ever done myself but I wouldn't condemn people who do. That said the levels of exploitation that goes on in the industry needs addressing

Explain "unexpected"

As in expecting to receive a massage, not to get 'whacked off'

Explain "unexpected"

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If it wasn't for the hookers I'd just end up spending all my money on coke. 😀

When we were at Uni we lived 5 doors down from a knocking shop. A guy I shared a house with was on first name terms with the girls. You'd be sat watching telly in the evening and he'd suddenly jump up and say "*it! I'm off for a *!" and wander down the road to do the business. Nobody else bothered. I wouldn't mind but his long term girlfriend was absolutely stunning 😯

One thing that was noticeable (as it was a shit area) was the constant procession of large German executive automobiles parked out the front. At the time I didn't notice how many of them had roof bars 🙂

However, it's comedy genius on the part of the mods. Chapeau!

Much as I'd like to take credit, that's a swear filter substitution rather than anything the Moderators have done. I'd assume it's Mark's doing.

I have never paid for sexual services and am happy with mrs iolo. I do however live in the darkest Austrian countryside where nearly every little village has a Night Club where ladies will dance for you and there's many many Laufhaus which are basically legal brothels. Many lonely farmers spend far too much time in these places.

postcode?

Argh! It's stealth moderation - "tried to go out for a bike ride" is not what I wrote.

I'm dying to know what he actually suggested... Did he try to "get the dog in the bath"?

..and had to stump up an extra €10 for lube!

See, I'd resent that. It's like paying over the odds for windscreen washer fluid when you have your car serviced. I'd have insisted that I use my own.

You should check your dipstick more often.

See, I'd resent that. It's like paying over the odds for windscreen washer fluid when you have your car serviced.

If you'd substituted the sex for car servicing when listening to him rant, it would have sounded no different. I was amazed that he would discuss his outrage for the whole restaurant to hear and wasn't in the slightest bit embarrassed to own up to enjoying getting taken up the Cat & Fiddle* by 2 hookers with strap-ons!

*Let's see what this stealth filter is capable of...

[i]I'm dying to know what he actually suggested... Did he try to "get the dog in the bath"?[/i]

Considers typing a series of sex acts to see if I can get the bike ride phrase to come up...

I have never paid for sexual services, never been to a strip joint or lap dancing club. Time, money, opportunity and inclination have never aligned.

In theory, I have no problem with consenting adults turning it into a commercial transaction, assuming it is a voluntary choice by a healthy, informed, non addicted person taking every sensible health precaution.

In practice, I have a daughter and it would break my heart if she thought that was a reasonable way to earn a living.

Like drugs, maybe legalisation would make it both safer and easier to help those trying to escape it, as well as reducing wider societal problems resulting from the criminality

Considers typing a series of sex acts to see if I can get the bike ride phrase to come up...

The Limassol Slip

Sailing the Windward Pass

Bowling from the pavilion end

Going for a Bike Ride

Changing at Baker Street

Wearing the Blue Coat

Big un up the wrong un

..and had to stump up an extra €10 for lube!

Been to strip club... Used to be a pussy for a pound night somewhere in the east end. Some bird went round and when her point glass was full with pound coins she got on stage and did her thing.
Never had a lap dance... A said, just an expensive prick tease.

Did take a girl back to my hotel when in Berlin. Got lost trying to find my way back and got talking to this girl. It only dawned on me why she was so keen to talk when she entered the hotel with me. I thought "sod it... Why not?".
It was only when upstairs and she was trying to being my fella to life that I realised that given the amount of narcotics nothing was going to happen. I asked to see her tits which cost me another 20€ on top of the special price of 60€ we had negotiated in the lobby.
I lay there. She slapped my limp penis for 20 mins until I suggested we get stoned, which we did. She left, i fell asleep (feeling ashamed) and realised the next morning that she had removed another 50€ from my wallet.

Doubt I'll be rushing back to relive the experience... Well, until I'm rocked up to my eye balls again and am feeling lonely in a foreign city.....

I'm dying to know what he actually suggested... Did he try to "get the dog in the bath"?

Maybe he asked if she'd ever wanted to "look like a decorators radio" ?

Lived at the mouth of the harbour in Aberdeen for a while and walked home through the red light area after nights out in the town. What a state some the girls were in - serious drug and alcohol issues going on and I wouldn't with someone else's bargepole- I'm suer it's not all like that, but he sights were enough to stop me even thinking about it.
Free porn and a left handed mouse are enough for me.

A few years back I drunkenly returned to the office to pick my bike up after a Christmas night out. At the time, there was a distinct red light district in the vicinity of the office. I may have been propositioned relentlessly until I gave in and paid for a bj (I was single at the time, and it was the lower end of the market so the money was literally spare change at the end of a night out).

I don't necessarily think it's wrong to pay for sex, although there are certainly secondary issues around it - the red light district is no more around here due to a murder nearby and subsequent police presence, for instance. I think the practicalities of regulating it well would be very complex, but even a moderately well regulated system would be better for clients, workers and others in the neighbourhood than the current position.

The Limassol Slip

Sailing the Windward Pass

Bowling from the pavilion end

Going for a Bike Ride

Changing at Baker Street

Wearing the Blue Coat

Big un up the wrong un

POSTED 36 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST

Cycling the wrong way up a one way street .

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[editedit] Alpin's post needs some bike rides! 😯

Red light jumping... 😉

i dont see the temptation of a scaghead prozzy on rainy street corner - but a high class escort to your hotel room in las vegas sounds like it might be fun...?

I never never been to a strip club / lapdancing joint / brothel in my life and have never considered going.
Not my thing and just feels a little seedly to my sheltered mind.
For me there has to be an emotional connection, otherwise its meaningless and pointless.

When I was best man for my best friends wedding I had a night and day with the maid of honour. Ironically she was a high class escort at the time. They ( my friend, wife and maid of honour) were all dancers at a famous institution together, she paid for her studies and carried on for a few years, made so much money (enough to buy a flat in Kensington and a farm in Italy) to semi retire! She was apparently one of the highest paid escorts in the country.
Now, I wasn't paying and we remain friends to this day. So, I have slept with a sex worker but not as a client.

Lived at the mouth of the harbour in Aberdeen

Is that another euphemism I haven't heard of ? (Much like the 'piss pot is too near the playpen' I heard the other day) 😯