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He doesn’t even know the numbers it will cost..... alright for some


 
Posted : 27/09/2017 8:15 pm
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He doesn’t even know the numbers it will cost..... alright for some

Of course he does. He's just reticent about admitting that it will be over 2 million.

Where is it btw? I missed the first few minutes.


 
Posted : 27/09/2017 8:24 pm
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doing own project management, that always ends well!


 
Posted : 27/09/2017 8:29 pm
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Fair point. Hertfordshire I think


 
Posted : 27/09/2017 8:30 pm
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Nice


 
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There’s lots I like about the golf bloke’s house, the fact he let the architect have full control, like Frank Lloyd Wright, is a declaration of trust, and I think the bloke has created an absolute classic, it’s timeless and I reckon it could become a textbook example of an architect showing he has creativity and craftsmanship as well as just an ability to turn lines on paper into something people can really live in. I’m not usually a fan of a single wood being used throughout, but the maple gives such a soft, creamy light, and the shadows and reflections are so totally oriental, it’s stunning.
It would be perfect for me as well, it’s got no stairs!
Fantastic place.


 
Posted : 27/09/2017 11:27 pm
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Yes, a true grand design! 4 years to build though and I doubt he got change out of £2m.


 
Posted : 28/09/2017 6:38 am
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Nice end product. Initially I was thinking it was a little obscene that one family needs 500 square metres to live in. But by the end not sure how that much floor space could yield so little living space (could just be camera angles but kitchen seemed tiny compared to her old house) - guess a lot of it was corridors (which were beautifully designed spaces but not a lot of use day to day).

Why did it need so many fireplaces?


 
Posted : 28/09/2017 6:55 am
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wonder what the locals make of it, being a bit different to [url= https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ @51.7479591,-0.3451658,20z/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en]the surrounding houses[/url]


 
Posted : 28/09/2017 7:19 am
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It looks from your link like there's probably no way they can see it


 
Posted : 28/09/2017 8:22 am
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[url= https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/51.7483764,-0.3448892/Ye+Olde+Fighting+Cocks/ @51.748947,-0.3470422,3a,66.8y,57.02h,87.21t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sCAoSLEFGMVFpcE5lQWRLMmRIdDA5NlllbUJPNFluQkFMYkZGN1V3ZlVxeEJMZ2FB!2e0!4m6!4m5!1m0!1m2!1m1!1s0x0:0x9f2bc04c1716305e!3e0?hl=en]looks like it has a nice local![/url] 🙂 and [url= https://www.yeoldefightingcocks.co.uk/beer ]thats quite the beer selection[/url] 😯


 
Posted : 28/09/2017 8:34 am
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That golf dude is how I imagine every STWer


 
Posted : 28/09/2017 2:21 pm
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I didn't get the golfer house at all. Whilst it was without doubt really nicely built, intersting design, i just can't see why anyone would want to actually live in it. It felt cold and empty, even with stuff in it.


 
Posted : 28/09/2017 2:33 pm
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I cant say i liked it.... it seemed to be the legacy project of the architect with very little real input from the clients who were paying for it. Undoubtedly a very striking piece of design but not one for me, the vast area it occupied just seemed a little wasted with long corridors etc and to be honest reminded me me of a primary school built in the 60's. BUT if they were happy with it then that's what counts so good on them for going for an original piece of design I'm just not entirely convinced that its actually what they really wanted.


 
Posted : 28/09/2017 2:55 pm
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Just watched the golf house and for me - it's all a bit Space1999, it was futuristic at the time but now looks a bit......naff? The architect was stuck in the past with his drawing board and model making at which point in the program I was thinking yeah I like this guy but once I saw the completed house I didn't like it for it's Space1999ness including its naff light shades. Also no real substance to the house for £2m - all plywood prefab


 
Posted : 28/09/2017 9:20 pm
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Nah, didn’t like it at all. It felt like a 70s house/attempt at being contemporary then and way too much repetition of the same materials and shapes.

And it will be an utter bitch to clean/dust it.


 
Posted : 28/09/2017 9:47 pm
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Beautiful house bust as soon as you touch that wood it'll be getting dirty. You'll have to sand the whole place down every 2 years!
No curtains either. How are you meant to sleep in summer?


 
Posted : 28/09/2017 9:49 pm
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About 60 years too late.


 
Posted : 28/09/2017 9:53 pm
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It looks from your link like there's probably no way they can see it

Most likely. I dont recall seeing that house and bimble past that area reasonably often. All the houses there are hidden away.


 
Posted : 29/09/2017 8:20 am
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You might need to chase them round the schedules, on 4OD, but the Oz and NZ grand designs have been so much better recently. Full log cabins, building off cliffs, houses lined with chipboard etc.

As for this weeks. Not for me, Clive. Looked instantly dated and what happens when you damage one of the bespoke fittings?


 
Posted : 29/09/2017 8:24 am
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what happens when you damage one of the bespoke fittings?

You get struck off their christmas card list


 
Posted : 29/09/2017 9:56 am
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The 'bespoke' fittings reminded me of those crappy wooden 'jigsaw' dinosaurs you can get.

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Posted : 29/09/2017 11:07 am
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The plan view is just Mugatu's throwing star from Zoolander! All this tosh about being on roman foundations, the bloke is jsut a big Ben Stiller fan


 
Posted : 29/09/2017 11:13 am
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I thought the whole thing came over a bit sheepish. It sounded more like he had found away to make money from the land. The coyness around the cost made me think either he was going to sell it so didnt want the numbers in the public domain or one of his companies built it and so he was been careful what got made public that may be of interest to HMRC.


 
Posted : 29/09/2017 12:20 pm
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Interesting house usurped only by his dress sense 😆

No wonder they're all turning to cycling


 
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It looked ok but a lot of the interior stuff was made out of chipboard. Bit naff really, only small knocks would make it look crap in fairly short order, doesn’t take much to knock through the wood veneer into the core.

The bricks looked like a 1970’s primary school as well.


 
Posted : 29/09/2017 1:30 pm
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The bricks looked like a 1970’s primary school as well.

They reminded me of Whitefield Bus Station but without the flashers and a the tangy smell of piss.

Wasn't sure about it, or him. What happened to the architect? Normally when they have been allowed such freedom they are featured in the show as the build completes. Did Mr. Golf have him bumped off when the final bill came in and have him "installed" under the Astroturf putting surface in the back garden?


 
Posted : 29/09/2017 1:55 pm
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No curtains either. How are you meant to sleep in summer?

Or indeed wander round the house naked! There's a GD type house on Gower (Pennard Cliffs) right next to a very well used ramble along the cliffs. Probably a few hundred people passing an hour. They have no curtains so when the lady of the house appeared out of her shower into the living room in full view of several families a few months ago it caused some amusement.


 
Posted : 29/09/2017 2:04 pm
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houses lined with chipboard etc.

Why is this a thing?

It's utterly horrible stuff, it never looks good, it's only decent use is as a wall, but either side of the studs and buried under two layers of plasterboard and 4 coats of plaster.


 
Posted : 29/09/2017 2:06 pm
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Normally I like a crazy plan GD but honestly this episode left me completely cold. There seemed to be no passion from the owners (especially the guy) for the project. It seemed he was doing it to please the architect not himself. Very odd.

Also I agree with the others - looked like a mini version of a 1970's red brick university building. Really not inspiring from the outside, although I quite liked the interior.

Really disappointing.


 
Posted : 29/09/2017 2:18 pm
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It seemed he was doing it to please the architect not himself. Very odd.

I think there was an element of patronage there as they knew each other for years.

It was ok, but nothing I'd want to live in.


 
Posted : 29/09/2017 2:25 pm
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Why is this a thing?

It's utterly horrible stuff, it never looks good, it's only decent use is as a wall, but either side of the studs and buried under two layers of plasterboard and 4 coats of plaster.

Budget I think in this case:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/grand-designs-australia/on-demand/65965-005


 
Posted : 29/09/2017 2:51 pm
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Concept is looking good tonight, but place your bets now - how much are they going to go over budget? I’m going with £300k.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 8:11 pm
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Ohmahgod. 13 minutes in and she’s the client from hell already - just put new timbers in FFS!


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 8:13 pm
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place your bets now

Up the duff within 3 months


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 8:14 pm
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I'll raise u. £400k


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 8:17 pm
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Spent a million on the plot and they have to put the loo in a cupboard.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 8:27 pm
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I still reckon this is going to be amazing.

Over a million quid for two bedrooms and no bath, but still...

Was it plot £920k and budget £275k?

That makes my prediction £1,495,000 I think.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 8:38 pm
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Yay, the Building Research Establishment is getting a mention. In another life I used to work there.

I didn't get paid for burning stuff sadly...


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 8:39 pm
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My bullshit bingo buzzer has just been a single tone throughout this ..... Wow she is annoying .......

That said I think it will turn out looking nice.

Maybe just not £1.5m nice.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 8:43 pm
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I think it’s really, really nice.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 8:54 pm
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Is nice. No room for a baby this time though.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 8:57 pm
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And I was miles out on the overspend 😆


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 8:58 pm
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Oooh next week looks good


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 9:00 pm
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So they claimed vat back (or I think, half) on the build.... So as I was thinking from part way through, not a home it's office space and show room for their design business.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 10:16 pm
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You can claim vat back on a new build house.


 
Posted : 05/10/2017 7:43 am
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next week looks good

Sure does.

[i]"If you're a centimeter out you're sacked..."[/i]

🙂 A man after my own heart.

Didn't like this week's but loved that French courtyard.


 
Posted : 05/10/2017 7:56 am
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I liked their windows. Definitely in keeping with the not-a-roof.


 
Posted : 05/10/2017 8:05 am
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I enjoyed last nights, would happily live there but the cost 😯


 
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I too liked last night’s build and thought that her insistence in keeping some of the original fabric of was integral to the design, but the cost of the plot was utterly bonkers. No wonder the price of housing is utterly out of control when people will pay the best part of ONE MILLION POUNDS for a yard with a small derelict industrial unit on it.

Really? ONE MILLION POUNDS?

What chance has their son got of ever being able to buy anything round there?

Location, Location, Location, is just as bad where every week 24 year old web designers/recruitment consultants Josh and Phoebe have a budget of £500k to buy a one bed flat above a take away on Clapham High Street.

I watch in horror wondering how my kids will cope when it is their time to move on. I bought my first house for 2 1/5 times my wage in 1996. For my lad to do that now he’d have to be on £80k.


 
Posted : 05/10/2017 9:20 am
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Really liked last night's. Really glad I live nowhere near London.


 
Posted : 05/10/2017 11:54 am
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I'm not sure that lady ever laughs.

Quite liked the outcome though but yes, 920k for a plot is mental.


 
Posted : 06/10/2017 8:12 pm
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Every so often I watch those buying a house abroad shows, one compares UK to somewhere else.

There's no choice as for as I'm concerned. Two bed flat in North Wales or a 4 bed converted mill in the dordogne.


 
Posted : 07/10/2017 6:35 am
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I watch in horror wondering how my kids will cope when it is their time to move on. I bought my first house for 2 1/5 times my wage in 1996. For my lad to do that now he’d have to be on £80k.

It's OK - Theresa May has solved the housing problem - don't you watch the news?


 
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i cant put my finger on it but i didnt really warm to her, there was something dislikable about her. The house looked nothing like what they set out to do, they didnt really keep anything on show and what they did had to be painted over. 1.3m for a 2 bedroom house is just bonkers,i wonder how much it is worth now though?


 
Posted : 07/10/2017 8:46 am
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Just watching this weeks now.
Mrs RNP and I have recently bought a sizeable mill that was originally the boiler house for the jam factory next door, AND also what was originally a Victorian abbotoir (then joiners shop and for the last 40years a car MOT garage) with a small plot of land between them. Basically a whole street.
Our plan is develop the garage into our home-it's similar to this weeks GD but bigger in size.
This weeks plot cost was absolutely mental but I guess that's London for you and not a northern Mill town.


 
Posted : 07/10/2017 7:27 pm
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I was in Chepstow today, just browsing at the house costs. Some lovely looking places for half the price of this weeks GD, all within commuting distance of Bristol (and London perhaps?) with multiple bedrooms and bathrooms, and acreage, surrounded by fields and hills etc. There are so many better ways to spend £1.2m than a cramped house in East Dulwich. This compulsion to stay in London amazes me, puzzles me. I'm working there over the next two days and I'll return to Wales with black snot because of the poor air quality. 🙄


 
Posted : 08/10/2017 9:58 pm
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This compulsion to stay in London amazes me, puzzles me.

It's about perception. Some people think that living near to work with a short commute time is the key to a better work/life balance, when you consider that they have all the amenities/shops etc close by too, it's easier.
Others would prefer to have a longer commute and live in a more rural area where they have less "stuff" nearby but can just look out of the window at trees, fields, livestock and so on to be happier.
Horses for courses.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 9:24 am
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This compulsion to stay in London amazes me
Me too. It's out of fear for a lot of people. i.e. they fear that if they move out they'll never be able to come back.
I met a couple of families in NZ who lived in Auckland because it was the only place with high enough wages/house prices to mean they could come back to London if they ever wanted to. The thing is - they moved to NZ for the better work/life balance and wilderness. They admitted that they didn't really have that.

Even ElShalimo's reply above suggests that he thinks all the jobs are in London.


 
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Even ElShalimo's reply above suggests that he thinks all the jobs are in London.

Not at all Alex. I was merely providing two different perspectives. I would never live or work in London. I'm happy earning less and being in the second group I mentioned above.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 10:37 am
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Living in Chepstow isn't much use if your friends, work, family etc. are all in London.

You could also argue that the London property is the better investment too...


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 11:07 am
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What chance has their son got of ever being able to buy anything round there?

The inheritance...

I enjoyed the episode and thought they did a great job with it but if it were me I would have been doing all I could to get more living space (although I guess party wall issues would have stopped them from building past the properties on either side)?


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 11:10 am
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The inheritance.

I am nearing 50, hopefully a good few years yet till I get any inheritance. Waiting for inheritance to get on the property ladder really isn't a workable solution.

You can set your life up to be near your job and amenities anywhere, not just London.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 11:21 am
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I am nearing 50, hopefully a good few years yet till I get any inheritance. Waiting for inheritance to get on the property ladder really isn't a workable solution.

That isn't what I was saying, I was answering

What chance has their son got of [b]ever[/b] being able to buy anything round there?

Ohh, and I claimed an inheritance after my dad died when I was 42, mum when I was 45. Not great but shit does happen. 🙁


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 11:22 am
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Anyway watch the last NZ one? Blinder. Guy literally moved a house from Christchurch that had been damaged in the earthquake, he only went for the staircase originally, and then rebuilt it/unpacked it the other end.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/houses/97720318/grand-designs-nz-rescued-villa-pops-up-in-central-otago-landscape


 
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you ****er Kevin

The 'elite' REME. Always mentioned among the elite regiments of the british forces.....

I now need to mop tea off my floor.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 8:05 pm
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It looks like a bonkers brilliant design


 
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The 'elite' REME. Always mentioned among the elite regiments of the british forces.....

Right up there with the RAF Rgt... 😆


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 8:11 pm
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This has serious potential of the bork and brilliance


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 8:18 pm
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Tremendous. Love it.

Seem like nice people as well.


 
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Really disappointed.

Architecturally, the interior of the house is superb. I love the fact that you can see the glulam beams and I love the curvature and the stairs, but it’s a shame they’ve decorated it like a country cottage.

Externally, I really liked the intention of the diamond pattern but the timber cladding on the roof looks amateur - almost like pallets - and it really jars against that more traditional stone work behind it. I think it would have been better if they’d clad the main house in some really beautiful stone and then done the curved car port in the diamond pattern timber cladding. Copper was nice though!


 
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Hmm. I thought i'd love this build, being so different, but there is something just not that pleasing with the finished proportions i think. The square section ends, undercut to the curved roof and jagged cladding just seem, er, a bit awkward?


 
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Wonderful building but the roof looked OCD rage inducing higgledy-piggledy.


 
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Yes, impressive design but shame about the pallet roof.


 
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Loved it, just needs some time to weather in


 
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Looked like something off in the night garden or teletubbies.
I is disappoint.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 9:15 pm
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Were the windows from Germany?


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 9:16 pm
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I get the comments about the roof but I absolutely loved it overall. One of my favourites.

Now have aspirations to make flower casts for our house.


 
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Nope, still think the niceset one so far was the guy in Ireland..
Didn't like tonight's that much.
Clever, yes, but just, well, not my idea of nice.
YMMV..


 
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Flower casts were pretty cool. The roof? Wow, it ended up bad from great - reminded me of an allotment. Got the impression they ran out of money, so ditched the architect and came up with their own solution, involving unfortunately what looked like reclaimed pallet wood. My daughter, 14, said the interior reminded her of YMCA accommodation.


 
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