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"Having consulted colleagues and in view of the circumstances of Parliament I have concluded that person cannot be me."
Doesn't have the courage to see through his convictions.
Theresa May as more balls than he has.
Johnson really is a snivelling coward isn't he. A bully, a liar and a coward.
It shows how ****ed the whole situation is when you are rooting for Theresa May
So Jamba was wrong....what...I ....but....I just don't know what to believe any more 🙁
Anyway, looking like Thatcher v2 incoming, then?
Dom Raab is hilarious on the daily politics now
Meanwhile the rest of us should be getting used to wielding an adze, learning how to aplly daub to wattle and brushing up our pottage recipes
Boris throws Gove under the bus.
Yep, that.
When Gove gets the blame for the post A-50 depression, Johnson's sins will be forgotten and his position as someone who 'campaigned to take us out of Europe' will be presented as leadership.
General election now, please.
Dom Raab is hilarious on the daily politics now
Channel?
I like Gove as a no-nonsense politician, but PM 😆 not on your nelly.
Imelda May even worse - definitely one for the B Ark.
It's clear there's only the nuclear option left:
The man has no interest in sorting out the almighty * up he has now caused.
He'll go on to create yet more problems. Thats what he does. He leaves others to actually sort out the carnage that trails in his wake
What an utter * he is!
I'd vote for JRM.
I have no idea why 🙁
Floccinihlinaucipilification! Won a bet with that one, I daresay.
Theresa May as more balls than [s]he has[/s] the rest of them put together.
8)
Hmmm - Gove was education secretary and teachers hated him. This is the statement from the NUT on him from a while ago on why he's bad for children's education
1 He has a narrow view of what makes a good education – one that doesn’t include
vocational subjects.
2 He constantly runs down our education system and our children’s achievements,
despite our country doing well in international league tables – this demoralises our
teachers and our children
3 He has removed the need for schools to employ qualified teachers, and attacks our
teachers’ professionalism.
4 He has presided over the unfairness of last year’s GCSEs and refused to do anything to
help the 10,000 children given unfair grades.
5 He has done nothing to resist the trebling of tuition fees.
6 Abolition of the EMA has resulted in fewer 16-19 year olds in education. He will have
cut post-16 funding by 20% across the lifetime of this Government.
7 He has unpicked many long-standing requirements for school premises, including
dropping requirements for minimum temperatures, staffrooms, and minimum ratios
for toilets; and he’s reduced the space standards for new schools as well.
8 He has cancelled the modernisation programme for all schools and diverted the money
to supporting Free Schools, often in areas which don’t need extra school places.
9 He has cancelled the City Challenge programme which was improving results without
privatisation.
10 He wants to end the national teachers’ pay system, putting recruitment and retention
of teachers at risk and forcing head teachers and governors to focus on negotiating
pay instead of improving standards for students.
We have seen these policies before. In the 80s and 90s education was underfunded, schools
were run down, and teachers were vilified and in short supply. We have come so far since then.
It will be a tragedy if Gove is allowed to turn the clock back.
Unfortunately he is not prepared to stop there. He is deregulating education as much as he can
and he is promoting business interests. This giant experiment is putting our children’s future at
risk.
Clearly they're biased, but we really could have him as PM...
All I can say is thank F Bojo has ruled himself out.
His credibility levels are now lower than a snakes belly!
I'd like to see May get the job.
Gove was education secretary and teachers hated him
Hmm, Could you point to the last education secretary that teachers liked?
(Regardless, as above, even I as one of his few defenders on here wouldn't dream of putting him as PM material)
Hmm, Could you point to the last education secretary that teachers liked?
There are degrees of disdain.
Bojo exposed for what he was - a naked opportunist. Shameful
Pretty sure no one other than jambalaya thought otherwise....
Jeremy Hunt must have changed his mind then. That would have been a real clash of the titanic arseholes - him vs Gove.
It's clearly gonna be May, she played a blinder with her barely even lukewarm support for the Remain campaign.
She's apparently a very unpleasant person, so maybe not the worst choice from an opposition perspective.
His credibility levels are now lower than a snakes belly!
Gove's shouldn't be any better, he campaigned on the same platform as BoJo...
She's apparently a very unpleasant person, so maybe not the worst choice from an opposition perspective.
I'm struggling to see that as a USP among the prospective candidates.
Omnishambles.
On the night of the referendum I had an intense (not dirty) dream about May becoming PM. Had the same dream twice since. Just sayin...
ninfan - MemberHmm, Could you point to the last education secretary that teachers liked?
my Dad was a teacher/headmaster, he thinks/thought Clare Short was pretty good, all things considered.
She's apparently a very unpleasant person, so maybe not the worst choice from an opposition perspective.
I seem to remember Thatcher wasn't the most like person in the world - didn't do her any harm though!
If only Labour could find a principled man of belief with tons of grass-roots party support to get behind and challenge the Tory party NOW …
Dom Raab is hilarious on the daily politics now
In a 'laughing at' or 'laughing with' sort of way? Missed it.
When Gove gets the blame for the post A-50 depression, Johnson's sins will be forgotten and his position as someone who 'campaigned to take us out of Europe' will be presented as leadership.
This. Cameron totally screwed Johnson when he resigned - enact the full Brexit and the economy tanks. Water it down and enrage your supporters. It's abundantly clear that there was no Brexit plan because he never expected to win.
Johnson has made the only play available to him - wait it out.
PM Gove would be funny, every time he tried to use an 'expert' opinion he'd get laughed out the house
Sadly in our post truth politics world maybe that doesn't matter ?
Boris has played a blinder.
Ransos - very true. But once again Cameron minor gets the better of Bojo. Although neither win in the end, but at least Dave made it to #10
muppetWrangler - MemberBoris has played a blinder.
+1
Boris has played a blinder.
He's trying to make the best out of a bad situation. He really could have done with Cameron staying in post until the next GE.
Now a lot of people will see him for what he really is.
Good grief.
my Dad was a teacher/headmaster, he thinks/thought Clare Short was pretty good, all things considered.
Clare Short never held the post.
Boris has played a blinder.
I'm not so sure: this will be seen as an act of cowardice and will be hung round his neck should he run in the future.
Interesting comment on the [url= https://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/77808764 ]Guardian[/url].
Gove's leadership challenge and Boris's step down is proof that the game spelled out in [url= https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/26/an-astute-online-comment-has-many-wondering-whether-brexit-may-ever-happen/ ]Teebs' comment[/url] is going ahead.Gove will take the fall when Brexit has its full winter backlash... he doesn't care about his popularity with the public, and Johnson is being spared by the Conservative Party strategists for future (a year or three in the future) deployment.
Gove has nothing to lose, and every opportunity to make the volatility that the Conservatives want in the world....
A blinder?
He screwed us and then he screwed himself. What is the word for the latter.....?
Maybe some dirt on Boris is about to be released, I am sure he has all sorts of skeletons in various closets.
It's all in the plan. Most of the conservatives wanted out....They can see the way the EU wants to go down the super state road.
Boris' job was to get them out. Done!
Cameron never really put that much effort in convincing us in was best. He's happy with the result.
Close ties with Europe yes...being controlled by them, no.
So what are the odds on May, Eagle, Sturgeon and Merkel sorting out the whole sorry mess?
Doesn't look like Gove has stabbed him, more like he is going to take the fall giving Boris a chance to stand again.
In both camps it seems people have realized that this is a poison chalice. You take power now and there is little if anything you can do to stop a bad run and you'll be out straight away.
Labour could have easily put someone forward to replace Corbyn but they messed around waiting for him to resign - they knew they wanted rid but didn't want to risk being his replacement.
Lib dems have been incredibly quiet. There is chaos in parliament and having not taken the opportunity to stand up and show some leadership and direction I think they have missed the boat.
I wonder if the SNP will move south of the border. Pretty sure in the NE and NW they could threaten some seats. I think my Labour MP is safe but I'm only 45 miles away from Scotland and it is quicker for me to get to Edinburgh than London...
being controlled by them
Do explain how they were controlling us?
Now a lot of people will see him for what he really is.
this will be seen as an act of cowardice and will be hung round his neck should he run in the future.
By the time whoever takes over, and it really has to be someone that supported the Leave campaign sets about sorting out the fudge deal on the EU they will be so unpopular with both the leave and remain sides of the conservative party that this little side step will be long forgotten.
Lib dems have been incredibly quiet. There is chaos in parliament and having not taken the opportunity to stand up and show some leadership and direction I think they have missed the boat.
This spectacle has plenty of legs left in it, no point or need to get involved especially as you don't quite know who you are fighting.
Do explain how they were controlling us?
Mind control drugs in the water...
Tom Fallon is just biding his time....like Arya Stark.
Fun fact, Gove is a massive GoT fan.
footflaps - MemberMind control drugs in the water...
that and-or contrails.
Lib dems have been incredibly quiet.
well there are only a handful of them left!
By the time whoever takes over, and it really has to be someone that supported the Leave campaign sets about sorting out the fudge deal on the EU they will be so unpopular with both the leave and remain sides of the conservative party that this little side step will be long forgotten.
By some, sure, but it's not going to help him.
Does anyone actually want to try and negotiate Brexit?
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Boris has played a blinder.
I doubt that when the true disaster that he created, then walked away, unfolds, there are going to be many people who regard him as a future PM.
They're more likely to regard him as fair game for a lynching!
He's finished. Dave's last act. He must be laughing his tits off!
I think it's plausible that there is a plot between Gove, his wife and Boris. They know someone needs to take the hit so engineering that an awkward email is 'leaked' (how exactly? Sent to a random member of the public who forwards it to Murdoch's Sky news...) that puts a stick in BoJo's spokes. Gove declares candidacy, takes the hit, BoJo returns to the fray untainted, Gove gets peerage down the road.
Crabb is an utter moron.. he believes homosexuals can be cured
Not quite true, he was associated with a charity called Christian Action Research and Education, as he's said he's a Christian, that's not too surprising, but the charity placed twenty interns with several MP's, five of whom, including Labour's David Lammy and Liz Kendall have cut their ties with the charity when they found out about this attempt to 're-educate' homosexuals. Crabb has since said "Yes, I'm a Christian, but believing in gay cure therapies is not what I believe and has never been what I believe."
And it was obvious what would happen when Gove said he was behind Johnson, where better if you're planning on knifing him in the back! 😀
Is Boris Johnson the third Targaryen?
He's got the hair for it.
[quote=jonba ]I wonder if the SNP will move south of the border. Pretty sure in the NE and NW they could threaten some seats.
On their current platform of staying in the EU? 😯
It would also threaten their credibility on their principle policy. No, I think they'll stick with the power base they have, much as some in England might look North enviously at parties with strong leaders.
Mind control drugs in the water...
that and-or contrails.
No sillyies...through the old fashioned method of erosion of sovereign powers through more and more treaties and less democracy 🙂
Remember George Papendreou, he talked about a referendum, was it the next day he [i]resigned[/i]?
If you believed everything was hunky inside the EU and you were happy to be part of the big European Super State, then that's your view and your are entitled to it.
I think it's a "lovely idea", but I'm also a firm believer in the fact it's unworkable. Too much diversity in different countries economies to ever have underneath one umbrella.
I would have preferred us to try and change things from within...but that's not likely to happen now.
Who knows, perhaps the Europeans made it quite clear that if we were likely to come to some kind of mutual deal then Boris was to have nothing to do with it, perhaps they made it quite clear that if he was involved they would make absolutely sure they would do everything in their power to screw him.
...Or he never ever thought they would win and he's now bricked it.
Most of this stuff us mere mortals will never know the true story.
Mind control drugs...really....everyone knows every time you catch a plane they pump stuff into the air system 😉
franksinatra - Member
On the night of the referendum I had an intense (not dirty) dream about May becoming PM. Had the same dream twice since. Just sayin...
You're a very naughty boy. Report to the Head Girl immediately.
WHY?it really has to be someone that supported the Leave campaign
Most tory MPS don't support leaving the EU
Its not exactly going well for labour having a leader the Parliamentary party don't back
On the night of the referendum I had an intense (not dirty) dream about May becoming PM. Had the same dream twice since. Just sayin...
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...Or he never ever thought they would win and he's now bricked it.
Very much this.
In his own self-interest he creates one almighty car crash, then realises that he hasn't got a clue what to do about it, so basically runs off and leaves everyone else to sort out his almighty * up!
What a *!!!!!
"Nuts in May" - Had me Laughing out loud. Great fun 🙂
"Nuts in may" - after that thought I doubt I'll be able to get it up for a month.
Spankingly good. 😀
WHY?
Most tory MPS don't support leaving the EU
That's true, but how many have the stones to disregard the referendum?
I was appalled at how Farage's performance in Brussels the other day reminded me of Panto, and now this - he's behind you, Boris.
Please remember, this is how the world is viewing us now.
Please remember, this is how the world is viewing us now.
....and this is how the world is viewing US at the moment.
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I wonder if the SNP will move south of the border. Pretty sure in the NE and NW they could threaten some seats.
Pity that the SNP haven't twigged yet that the easiest way to get what they want is to win a majority at Westminster and then make up their own rules.
If they joined with a preexisting national party who share many of their views and who don't care much about independence either way.
A party which most voters agree with but don't take seriously because the lack the serious politcial credentials.
A national SNP / Green party alliance perhaps. The moral high ground of the Greens combined with the efficient, ruthless political machine that is the SNP currently.
There'd be an unusual choice for the countryside brexiteers.
I didn't know you were a Luxembourger Perchy.
and this is how the world is viewing US at the moment.
Where's Nic's right hand?
<barf>
Where's Nic's right hand?
He's presumably back at Holyrood standing in for First Ministers questions....... and not resigning.....or launching a leadership challenge.
I didn't know you were a Luxembourger Perchy.
I is European, innit!
I is European, innit!
🙂
it really has to be someone that supported the Leave campaign
Only in the mind of the Bill Cash nutcase tendency. When 48% of the country, a fair chunk of whom are Troy voters or potentially Tory voters, chose to back Remain it needs to be someone who has some appeal on both sides; more so given that the majority of Tory MPs are Remainers.
Only in the mind of the Bill Cash nutcase tendency. When 48% of the country, a fair chunk of whom are Troy voters or potentially Tory voters, chose to back Remain it needs to be someone who has some appeal on both sides; more so given that the majority of Tory MPs are Remainers.
It's been observed that the frontrunner never wins the Tory leadership, but this is the reason I think May WILL get it in this instance.
And anyway, we could argue that Boris was the frontrunner initially.
Boris already being painted as a poor kicked puppy who has been brutally backstabbed by the evil pantomime villian .
Phase 1 of the " deny all knowledge and play the victim so that I can act all jolly and be the PM when the mess is all cleared up" plan complete.....
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36674729 ]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36674729[/url]
ratherbeintobago - Member
it really has to be someone that supported the Leave campaign
Only in the mind of the Bill Cash nutcase tendency. When 48% of the country, a fair chunk of whom are Troy voters or potentially Tory voters, chose to back Remain it needs to be someone who has some appeal on both sides; more so given that the majority of Tory MPs are Remainers.
My impression is that "Bill Cash Nutcase Tendency" sums up the bulk of the Conservative party. If they're presented with the choise of a eurosceptic candidate or a pro EU candidate, they'll back the eurosceptic. The only way the parliamentary Conservative party can prevent that is to stitch up the leadership election so only two pro-EU options are given to the wider membership.
Theresa May has played the odds by officially backing remain while implying she was actually pretty eurosceptic.
Where's Nic's right hand?
@Perchy - look again at the photo and the facial expressions - i.e. she looks surprised and he looks like he's on the vinegar strokes. 🙄
I'm sure he knew what you meant dannyh, smart (topical) response too 🙂
Just watched the footage of Boris' announcement. The bit towards the end where he's trying to stifle a smile is funny as ****.
I'm sure he knew what you meant dannyh, smart (topical) response too
Just making sure - a knob joke should always be appreciated for what it is.
Speaking of cocks, what has Farage been up today?