place sanctions on every single person who lives in Occupied Palestinian Territories...
seems a bit harsh on the Palestinians
Smart arse, but I guess you knew I meant every Israeli who lives in occupied Palestine territory
I suppose we can refer to "Palestine" now.
If you wanted to do what you're describing, you'd need to designate each of the settlers by name. The alternative would the Crimea approach, where the whole area is subject to sanctions - but that includes the Palestinian residents too.
That approach doesn't offend or worry me, but it's totally beyond the administrative capabilities and bandwidth of the part of the UK government that manages this shit. Like every other part of the civil service, it's totally underwater...
Just put sanctions on Israel, it is long overdue.
Just put sanctions on Israel, it is long overdue.
Build a wall round Israel and treat the nation state as the Israeli's treat the Palestinians, **** Netanyahu, **** his goon squad of a government, **** every israeli who stands in the way of stopping this slaughter
There is already a recent example of the type of sanctions that can be implemented, its not like the UK government needs to reinvent the wheel.
Why do you think that a country currently committing genocide should not be sanctioned?
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/uk-sanctions-on-russia
Just put sanctions on Israel, it is long overdue.
What kind of sanctions?
The entire country and its population?
OK - and what would you like to stop? All trade, goods and services?
Forgive me but I'm just a gob on a forum with zero experience of implementation of sanctions, I'm sure we have experts for that sort of thing
personally I'd wish to stop all trade, services and travel.
Just put sanctions on Israel, it is long overdue.
What kind of sanctions?
The entire country and its population?
OK - and what would you like to stop? All trade, goods and services?
personally I'd wish to stop all trade, services and travel.
Then you're never going to believe who's gonna end up suffering most in that scenario. Yep, it's the Palestinians again. You know that Palestine doesn't have any seaports or airports, right? And that Israel controls all the land borders, including the crossing points with Egypt and Lebanon? And that there is no Palestinian currency?
So if there are no imports or exports or cross-border transactions for any Israeli persons, there won't be any for Palestinians either because they all have to pass through Israeli institutions thanks to the facts on the ground.
The already weak Palestinian export sector (I've bought dates, olive oil and fashion from Palestinian producers and had them sent to the UK) and tourism sector (people still visit East Jerusalem and Bethlehem, at least) will finally be choked and the Palestinian economy will be entirely dependent on Israel.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46142188
Then you're never going to believe who's gonna end up suffering most in that scenario. Yep, it's the Palestinians again. You know that Palestine doesn't have any seaports or airports, right? And that Israel controls all the land borders, including the crossing points with Egypt and Lebanon? And that there is no Palestinian currency?
Yeah….you do like to appear more knowledgeable than other forum posters don’t you with veiled critical language
About that thing where Israel controls the Egyptian border, they can gtf with that, build a suitable sea port in Gaza so they can have a modicum of independence and if Israel object?, they can gtf with that, build an airport and if Israel don’t like that………yep you’re catching on……..they can gtf with that.
As for currency?, now Palestine is recognised by the vast majority of all UN members apart from the war mongers and previous holocaust regimes then I think it’s time to organise and develop a monetary/payment/currency structure of their own that is backed by Qatar (perhaps?)
Tell you what…..Israel can just gtf.
, build an airport and if Israel don’t like that………yep you’re catching on……..they can gtf with that...
Tell you what…..Israel can just gtf.
Do you remember what happened to the last airport?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasser_Arafat_International_Airport
Do you remember what happened to the last airport?
You see what’s happened to the last everything?
I'm happy to see it was in partnership with Canada and Australia - the UK has to dispose of its delusion that it can achieve anything on major geopolitical issues alone. I'd prefer to see closer work with the EU.
The UK announcement was in coordination with Portugal, as well as Canada & Australia.
Spain, Ireland did so last year. Other EU countries have done so recently.
France announcement yesterday makes it 153 countries, I think.
More EU states expected to also formally recognise Palestine this month, at the UN.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9ykqw22zlo
Whilst laudable, there's only one country that can influence Netanyahu in a meaningful way.
This is still the hard truth.
Sanctions on Israel could include limiting the [meagre] imports of fruit and veg or the export of defense materiel, but something with more impact could be barring them (or Israeli companies) from government contracts, say like the one the Elbit has got to train UK troops. Or putting pressure on British banks from selling Israeli government bonds.
The issue there would be the lack of UK bidders for the same training contracts and the revenue that selling such bonds brings the treasury.
One of the conditions for the Labour government's recognition of Palestine is that Palestine should have no right to defend itself and that Israel is able to attack it with impunity.
https://twitter.com/saulstaniforth/status/1970011942460022918/
Obviously Israel has the right to "defend itself" but that's because, well, I'm not entirely sure.
A gloomy interview and article from two negotiators (one Palestinian, one American) who now regard the two state solution as a "dangerous gimmick" that wasted 30 years, mostly at the expense of Palestinians.
They refuse to suggest policy solutions - which on one hand is a little frustrating but on the other hand is admirable dedication to their point that they were completely wrong in the past.
Blimey......
I know some people believe that the only support Israel needs to worry about is from the US government, and Netanyahu certainly behaves as if that is the case, but it obviously isn't.
Plus for Microsoft as far as I'm concerned.
Also the protests in Italy and the announcements from both the Spanish PM and king give me hope the that toffee is turning in Israel.
Sanctions on Israel could include limiting the [meagre] imports of fruit and veg or the export of defense materiel, but something with more impact could be barring them (or Israeli companies) from government contracts, say like the one the Elbit has got to train UK troops. Or putting pressure on British banks from selling Israeli government bonds.
The issue there would be the lack of UK bidders for the same training contracts and the revenue that selling such bonds brings the treasur
Should....!
Something I'd not clocked, is the silence from neighbouring countries.
https://mondediplo.com/2025/09/01edito
You couldn’t make it up. One minute you “recognise a Palestinian state “, next minute you install Lord Blair of Baghdad as governor.
Well to be fair Tony Blair did bring peace to the Middle East, and it great that a senior Labour politician should see eye to eye with Donald Trump and recieve his backing, so perhaps we should be celebrating that.
You couldn’t make it up. One minute you “recognise a Palestinian state “, next minute you install Lord Blair of Baghdad as governor.
Christ on a bike. This is a terrible idea. It severs Gaza from the existing framework of the Palestinian state (which is pretty ropey but better than zero). And it has the world's second least suitable person leading it?
Did anyone see the photo of Blair and Sunak passing each other on the street outside Trump Tower the other day?
And it has the world's second least suitable person leading it?
Perhaps thats the plan. Have someone the Israelis and Palestinians can join together in hating.
Looks like a mass walkout at the UN when Netyanyahu was speaking
Yup, not many people stayed to listen to the leader of a genocidal and criminal regime speak.
Although our Labour government ensured that the UK diplomats stayed seated to listen to the man who is wanted under an international arrest warrant for war crimes and crimes against humanity
https://youtube.com/shorts/YbHtfEMhhAg?si=XtX9cCWkTheCxybk
I don’t think Trump is going to get his Nobel Peace Prize h just yet.
The disconnect between him saying he thinks there’s going to be a peace deal on Gaza, followed by the bellicose and belligerent Netanyahu ranting at the UN, is total.
Those were not the words of a man about to sign a peace deal. Those were the words of a man who’s about to kill tens of thousands more people
Surely Tony Blair, that well-known Middle East peacemaker and soon to be the installed Governor of Occupied Gaza, is a shoo-in for the Nobel Peace Prize?
Pass me a bucket I wan to throw up. The hideous ghoul Cooper daring to talk about a peace deal after she’s been instrumental in the genocide?
The far-right Israeli regime really is determined that Palestinian men, women , children, should be denied aid and starve.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/01/israeli-military-vessels-pro-palestinian-flotilla-gaza
Where is the Royal Navy when shipping carrying humanitarian aid in international waters is attacked by a rogue state?
Well lets hope that this latest initiative by the US actually produces some positive moves in ending this.
Although I fully expect nethenau to launch some sort of increased bombing campaign to derail the process.
I'm not quite sure if this belongs here but I find it pretty disturbing and cynical and it would seem to be intended try to influence Britain's view of the war.
I'm not quite sure if this belongs here but I find it pretty disturbing and cynical and it would seem to be intended try to influence Britain's view of the war.
I'm not sure that associating yourself with a notorious criminal is a good PR move, but I guess racists gonna racist.
And the ironic point is many of Robinson's supporters are far right and hate Jewish people, be they israelis or no.
For these bastards its white and christian are the only people acceptable to them.
And the ironic point is many of Robinson's supporters are far right and hate Jewish people, be they israelis or no.
I think it's a win win from the Israeli perspective though. On the one hand stir up populist anti-islamic froth whilst any expression of anti-semitism can be used to justify Israel doing what it likes to protect itself and/or strongarm the British government into a pro-israeli stance regardless of what atrocities they may be committing.
Maybe Israel has invited Stephen Lennon so that he can honour a commitment which he made in 2019?
"If there was a war and it kicked off I would be there on the front line fighting for Israel" - Tommy Robinson.
Perhaps they believe it is time for a gentle reminder? After all things "kicked off" almost 2 years ago and Stephen Lennon still hasn't put his fighting skills to good use.
Yaxley-Lennon has been getting financial support from Israeli groups for a number of years to aid his anti-Islam/muslim stance in this country, byline times did an expose of this last year (?)
I think it's a win win from the Israeli perspective though.
No good can come from any association with the thug and convicted criminal. Which is precisely why Nigel Farage has had the good sense and determination to keep Stephen Lennon out of Reform UK and Lennon has been forced to join a far-right party led some weird ****stani [they come over here taking over our far-right racist parties]
And zionist organisations are fully aware of how toxic Stephen Lennon is to the zionist cause, which is also precisely why they shun him and regularly demand that he stays away from their events.
Edit : The swear-filtered word of course refers to someone who was born in one of the Indian subcontinent countries beginning with P
British zionists don't welcome Stephen Lennon :
And the ironic point is many of Robinson's supporters are far right and hate Jewish people, be they israelis or no.
I am not sure it is ironic, unfortunately for the Jewish community, the courting and support Isreal give to far right regimes and organisations around the world will inflict a heavy cost when those regimes and groups move beyond the joint aims of attacking the left.
To rehash an old joke - a spite-filled racist nutcase. And Stephen Lennon.
Ranting Israeli nutter platformed by C4 News just now, with no pushback from the useless Cathy Newman. Deplorable.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/09/gaza-ceasefire-deal-first-phase-trump-peace-plan
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/09/how-the-gaza-ceasefire-deal-was-done-donald-trump
I'm finding it hard to believe this will work - but my opinion counts for nothing compared to that of the leaders of Hamas and Israel so...
By contrast Amit Segal, a journalist close to Netanyahu, said: “There’s no phase two. That’s clear to everyone, right? Phase two might happen someday, but it’s unrelated to what’s just been signed.”
Yup...
don’t think Trump is going to get his Nobel Peace Prize h just yet.
Was a good bit about this on Radio 4 yesterday. Basically he’s got no chance as there is plenty of evidence he is not a peace maker
For now absolutely the aim should be to maintain a ceasefire and maintain peace. But the world has to go after Israel for the war crimes it’s committed
