[Closed] Front door sashlock & deadlock recommendations please

go for Euro sashlocks. You can then spec matched locks/keys and thumbturns on the back (or blind) and there's plenty of escutcheon designs for them

I have 4 Euro locks on external doors on the barn, each uses the same key.

Eclipse are good manufacturers.

These guys are great. Got all my hardware from them for the Barn.
http://www.doorfit.co.uk/

so you get something like this
http://www.doorfit.co.uk/abus-e90n-80mm-satin-nickel-anti-bump-snap-euro-cylinder-turn
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http://www.doorfit.co.uk/locks-security/door-locks?cat=126

and use it in one of these:

http://www.doorfit.co.uk/locks-security/door-locks/guardian-g7050-63mm-s-steel-oval-sashlock-case-only

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And when you order you can specify that you want the same key for each lock.

Here is another well respected one in Edinburgh... Edina, in Stockbridge.

http://www.inbrass.co.uk/

Many thanks - currently struggling with the challenge of a wall plate that is 1.5" lower than the outer lintel, and so the sash window is too tall .... Arghhhh!! Solution is to lower the stone sill ... the joy of renovating an old house (or rather paying professionals to do it).

I went to my local master locksmith (Caley Lock in Edinburgh) and got some of [url= http://openweekend.keyprint.co.uk/2000-Premier-XT.aspx ]these [/url]on their recommendation.

We have a 5 lever Chubb Deadlock and a monster Yale night latch thing:

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Personally I wouldn't fit the euro cylinder advised in top photo,
Anti snap and anti bump yes but not with the
Thumb turn. If someone does get in they can unlock
Your front door and walk out with whatever will fit through the door.

I want a sashlock to operate with the current knob and an additional deadlock higher up

I would go for that. A sashlock with a thumbturn for when you are in the property, and use also an additional deadlock without a thumbturn for when you go out.

It's important that you can get out quickly in the event of a fire specially at night. You really don't want to be fumbling in the dark looking for keys as you property fills up with smoke.

You are much more likely to be killed by smoke inhalation than by a burglar.

So either a thumbturn or make absolutely certain that the key is always in the lock when you are indoors.

I would go for that. A sashlock with a thumbturn for when you are in the property, and use also an additional deadlock without a thumbturn for when you go out.

It's important that you can get out quickly in the event of a fire specially at night. You really don't want to be fumbling in the dark looking for keys as you property fills up with smoke.

my thinking exactly. All the doors have thumbturns on the inside.

Frankly if a burlgar got in, IM not too bothered about HTF he gets back out again.

I went for Avocet keyed alike locks.

Getting a set of french doors fitted next month and they will be treated to a new lock to suit our keys, and when we sort out the garage we can order locks for the garage door and side door as well. You can even get padlocks for the shed etc 🙂

It can get a bit pricey as the spare keys add up, but if we move I can put the old locks back in and take it all with us, some locks may not fit as you need to measure each door to get the correct internal/external lengths.

They are supposedly the best for lock snapping/anti-bump.

Edit: You may not care how he gets out, but he does. Scramble back through the window with a laptop and wallet, or out through the door with a couple of bikes/telly and everything else he cares to nip back in for 🙁 We know where the keys are to get out, and if we have visitors we leave the keys in the doors just in case.

Do locks with tumbleturns comply with insurance specs? We were advised that we would need to have the yale lock shown above or a 5lever mortice to BS3621. If not the case would be very interested
Edit: just read a suggestion above for tumbleturn for when indoors- how would this work with insurance if indoors without deadlock activated on other lock?

thumb turn plus additional deadlock,or even a yale rim cyclinder lock that you can lock with a key from the inside, like the one above, Wickes where selling their stock off at a tenner last week.

We know where the keys are to get out, and if we have visitors we leave the keys in the doors just in case.

You do realise that smoke inhalation can kill in seconds don't you ? So even if you know where the keys are it doesn't mean that you'll have enough time.

[i] "Often smoke incapacitates so quickly that people are overcome and can’t make it to an otherwise accessible exit" [/i]

http://www.nfpa.org/press-room/reporters-guide-to-fire-and-nfpa/consequences-of-fire

I live in a bungalow so any window is good as well 🙂 I probably wouldn't bother leaving via a door if the hallway was filled with smoke.

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