[Closed] Friendly dogs

Get yer dug tae ****.

Exactly as Mrs NewRetro did.

I think any responsible dog owner would be grateful for that - it's good training.

("Don't speak to my dog like a dog" wtf)

Dog walker was a moron. I hope they were spoken to in the appropriate manner.

Don’t speak to my dog like James Brown

FTFY

Don’t speak to my dog like James Brown

Get Up (I feel like being a Sex Machine)?

On a more serious note,  when you are walking a dog you only meet two types of people.

People who will try and invite your dogs attention and people who won't.

It's not hard to train the dog to ignore everyone unless they make it clear that they want to pet the dog.

There are no bad dogs only bad owners.

edit: My mistake. There's a third type. The arsehole who'll swing a kick at a dog.

Dorset Know has it. Any dog jumping up at people needs to be strongly discouraged. The correct reaction from the dog owner would have been an apology while also verbally chastising her dog.

Young dogs need to learn that not every human they meet is a friend or plaything.

Some owners are just idiots though. While walking my dog a small dog was persistently trying to bite my legs to the extent I couldn't walk away. Stopping to face it and shouting at it didn't deter it. Meanwhile it's owner was sitting on the grass 40 yards away ignoring this. She only reacted, outraged, when after all else had failed I took a swing at the dog with my foot (missed) to defend myself.

Lol Nobeer, classic.

"How would you have reacted to that?" 

Apologise profusely. Tell my dog off and ask whether any clothing has been damaged/dirtied and apologise again.

"What is the appropriate response to the unwanted attentions of someone else’s dog?"

Shout at it and if that doesn't work, bring foot/knee up to make contact.

There’s a third type. The arsehole who’ll swing a kick at a dog.

I think that part depends on what the dogs doing. If It's just being pally & wants a pat on the head then no, if it's coming in teeth bared & giving it big growls, then probably!

Anyway, the owner should have full control over their dog, no matter what. I've been approached by friendly dogs that have jumped up with muddy paws & luckily have always had scruffy trousers or bare legs!

I own dogs. I stress [i]own[/i]. They are a piece of property, for which I am strictly responsible. They are not whimsical and charming little hairy people with special personalities whose every delightful doing (basically: they shidded and farded and camed, charmlessly) should be praised by all. No one else owes them patience, tolerance or forbearance of any kind and they need to learn that from me so that they don't get a battering from others. 😀

Cuts both ways though.

When one of my dogs was young, we were on the beach and a family spotted her and got very excited, pointing and squealing and making 'hug' gestures towards little Biscuit, who loves children and who naturally started running over to greet them. Given the signs they'd been making, I let Biscuit approach, but as she got closer the mother suddenly got all irritated, gave me a glowering look and shouted crossly "MY children don't like dogs!".

As an owner, what are you supposed to do with that?

I collected my confused collie and apologised. (To her, not the humans, who I just ignored.)

As an owner, what are you supposed to do with that?

Swing a kick at the kid? That'll learn 'em.

Not at the mother? It's the owner's fault not the children's.

lol

ignoring humans - that's usually the best advice, generally

I own dogs and I'd do what Mrs NewRetro did in that situation. I'd also expect others to do that if my dog jumped up at them. And I'd apologise.

Some people are unaware of the responsibility that comes with owning a dog, including training and taking responsibility for their dog's actions. And some just do not care.

For balance though I do regularly encounter well trained dogs and responsible owners.

edit: My mistake. There’s a third type. The arsehole who’ll swing a kick at a dog.

72 pages & 12 bannings

My dog is 99% guaranteed to ignore anyone coming the other way, however there are rare occasions where she'll be doing the usual trotting past, ignoring, then a scent will catch her nose and she'll suddenly turn and sniff them. I suspect this could be quite alarming for someone catching a big black dog suddenly lunging towards them out of the corner of their eye... if they shouted or slapped her on the nose, I'd be like "Er... Sorry about that." and carry on.

For balance though I do regularly encounter well trained dogs and responsible owners.

Not on this bloody forum you don't!! Man I hate reasonable comments!

Yay! A dog thread.

On a more serious note, when you are walking a dog you only meet two types of people.

People who will try and invite your dogs attention and people who won’t.

It’s not hard to train the dog to ignore everyone unless they make it clear that they want to pet the dog.

There are no bad dogs only bad owners.

edit: My mistake. There’s a third type. The arsehole who’ll swing a kick at a dog.

Agree, largely - I beg to differ on the third type.  As a very last resort I would reserve the right to swing a kick at a dog if it attacked either of mine and its owner was unable to or disinterested in controlling his own.  Whether or not that makes me an a-hole in anyone' books...

Dog walker was a moron.

There's lots of them about. As for the op's issue I see a lot of such dogs whilst walking mine. I generally give it a stroke as anything else just antagonises the morons! When my dog was a pup I wished people would do as the op did as it would help with the training.

Had a dog run across the road at mine once. Mine was on the lead and obviously scared of the angry staffie approaching so I reached down and grabbed its collar to hold the two dogs apart. I was expecting to be thanked for getting the dog under conyrol next to the road...Lets just say thats not what happened to the extent it ended up in a scuffle and the owner going over a wall and threatening to come back with boys...like I said...morons

Dogs by nature get up to all sorts of mischief... seems to me it's the responsibility of the owner to ensure they're adequately trained (without resorting to inhumane treatment like electric shock collars) and to deal with any unfortunate interactions civilly.

Course, the world being what it is, there's plenty of arseholes who take the piss...

I would have reacted by asking Mrs NewRetro for a divorce right there and then. Might sound dramatic but I wouldn't want to be married to somebody who when met with an offer of a friendly interaction reacts with anger.

Should have used 'Get Off!'..   Down would be confusing the dog as its a command for lying down.  No wonder the owner was so angry.. confusing his dog with the wrong commands.....

You can say what you like to my dogs, they won't pay any attention.

I would have reacted by asking Mrs NewRetro for a divorce right there and then. Might sound dramatic but I wouldn’t want to be married to somebody who when met with an offer of a friendly interaction reacts with anger.

Sweet baby jesus and the orphans!

Had a dog run across the road at mine once. Mine was on the lead and obviously scared of the angry staffie approaching

Don't get me started on staffie owners, I know they aren't all bad but they certainly attract more than their fair share of bellend owners.

I've been in the same situation as you when our dog was attacked, I thought it was heading for fisticuffs because I had to give his dog a good kicking.

Last night Mrs NewRetro and I went for an evening stroll. We encountered a dog walker coming the other way. Their small dog ran up to Mrs NewRetro and put its paws on her legs – she reacted by saying in a stern voice “get down!”.

The dog walker angrily said “don’t speak to my dog like that!”.

How would you have reacted to that? What is the appropriate response to the unwanted attentions of someone else’s dog?

I would greet the dog with "how do you do" just like I normally do to all animals if they are friendly.  😀

I agree with OP. Mrs_OAB and I are fed of of 'oh, he is only friendly' as some stinky muddy hound leaps up at you.

I had one on the summit of a Munro last week actually biting at my hand, but apparently that was 'being affectionate' and I too should not have raised my voice.

Enough, keep your dog under control and off me.

For anyone who is wondering, I have a colleagues dog asleep under my desk at the moment, so quite happy to be around dogs, just not inflicted on me due to lack of control and care.

Owning a dog that is like the OPs experience, very friendly, I would apologise profusely and put the dog back on her lead. I won't even let her jump at my little girls' friends when they come to play - that sort of behaviour should be discouraged completely. Unfortunately the OP came across an arsehole of a dog owner.

<p>Biting at hands isn't on - yes it's something dogs do but it can and should be trained out.</p><p></p><p>A dog jumping in itself isn't worthy of a kick, if it was trying to bite then yeah, give it a punt (like literally lift it with your leg and toss it, you're unlikely to harm it but may give it something to think about, it also gives you the chance to disengage and better defend yourself) but otherwise that's just unwarranted. You wouldn't beat an over familiar stranger.</p><p></p><p>Would recommend a 'firm' voice rather than 'stern'. As soon as you bring emotion into it you're doing the situation no favours, maybe that was what annoyed the owner? Not making excuses mind, should still have apologised but getting angry as 'stern' implies is just going to wind the dog  (and owner) up.</p>

squirrelking - I think you're misunderstanding stern - it doesn't imply angry as you've said above.

OED has it as "(of a person or their manner) serious and unrelenting, especially in the assertion of authority and exercise of discipline."

<p> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=stern&rlz=1C1GCEA_en&oq=stern&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l2j69i59j69i60j69i61.1015j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8</p><p><span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">Going by syononyms 'stern' just sounds unfriendly, angry wasn't the right word though. What I was trying to say was that commands should be given in a more neutral voice.</span></p>

Our dog is not always great with other dogs, especially small white fluffy things. So if she's off the lead in the woods and we encounter something along those lines we will always get her on the lead so she can't flatten the little fur babies.

Yet the owners still seem to think that it's perfectly acceptable to allow little fufu to come running up to ours and get a stern warning from her when they arrive while having the audacity to say we should have our dog under control! "Oh I'm sorry, I thought that on the lead not chasing your little powder puff was under control! How about you actually think about why someone would put their dog on the lead when you approach and consider doing likewise!"

Does my nut in sometimes. I'm so tempted to just leave her off the lead and sort out the pack hierarchy the normal way, but the weight of a Belgian Shepherd bouncing on to little fufu would probably result in large vets bills 😉

I had an angry owner have a go at me after there over excited spaniel knocked my then 4 year old son over and our lurcher appeared to give it a thorough telling off which resulted in said spaniel running off wailing and being repeatedly knocked over by our dog... I called her off once I'd got the boy up and checked he was alright. Apparently my dog was vicious and should be on a lead whilst her was just playing..I told her my dog was just playing too then!

For those who think kicking a dog is wrong what else to you suggest when the dog has been trying to bite you for a minute or longer and the owner is completely ignoring it''s behaviour?  I couldn't walk away because whenever I tried to it ran in behind me to try and bite.

This was the first and only time I have needed to do try and kick a dog.

. I would do it again in the same circumstances. This wasn't an over friendly dog or an instant reaction. The dog had tried to bite me 8 or 10 times.There was ample time for the owner to get up and walk over to retrieve her dog. She did nothing until I tried to kick it.

I don't think I need to stand still and let a dog bite me before doing anything.

For those who think kicking a dog is wrong what else to you suggest when the dog has been trying to bite you

I favour the grab it by the scruff of the neck  approach.

If  it's  small enough to  lift with one hand then i'd present it to it's owner wriggling furiously  but futilely in impotent rage.

If it's bigger then i'd scruff it with one hand and grab the loose skin just in front of it's tail and lift it bodily and  again return it to it's owner.

If it's too big to  lift with both hands then I doubt a kick is going to much other than enrage it further.

The correct reaction from the dog owner would have been an apology while also verbally chastising her dog.

Many, many times I have been chased by dogs, had dogs come up to me - slobbering all over me, run out in front of me on my bike... never once has anyone apologised.

lots of fin du cloches out there, some of them own dogs

special hates on;

owners of shitzsus and miniature terriers that think their don't need exercise because they're small - wrong, they're high energy intelligent creatures who need exercise, lots of it, and stimulation, lots of it... so ending up with bored, hyperactive, never-stop-yap-yap-yapping annoyances that just really make neighbourly relations go super easy, a special level of hell is reserved for you

"hard men" with staffies to show how hard they are (some years back that wasn't that spot filled by alsations or dobermen or pitbulls?). For full disclosure, I'm an ex-staffie owner - brilliant dogs

any owner who can't be bothered to work out what a dog needs to be happy

any owner who can't be bothered to control their own hound, double points for blaming your dog for their own dog's poor behaviour

as for OP, I would have done exactly what MrsOP did, hound needs training, you provided it

Why do people keep kicking my dog and calling it **** off when his name is Bongo?

Many, many times I have been chased by dogs, had dogs come up to me – slobbering all over me, run out in front of me on my bike… never once has anyone apologised.

You should stop going out dressed as TJ!!!

There’s a third type. The arsehole who’ll swing a kick at a dog.

On a completely unrelated note, has anyone seen TJ?  Wanted to ask him about hair dye.

For those who think kicking a dog is wrong what else to you suggest when the dog has been trying to bite you for a minute or longer and the owner is completely ignoring it”s behaviour? 

Pretty sure that scenario was already addressed as perfectly reasonable. Next.

Small friendly dogs can be picked up... if it happens again please pick up dog, run and video the chase

😃

Our Lab will ignore everyone 99% of the time. The 1% I apologise.

We walk her round the local reservoir so bump in to the same faces again and again. Before she was ‘done’ she got a lot of attention when in season. We always had her on the lead but others seemed happy to let there dogs run a considerable distance under no control to try and mate with ours. I found a quick belt with the ball chucker usually calmed them down and left the owners with no room to complain.

For some reason small dogs don’t seem to like our Lab. An aggressive yapping dog gets the same chucking stick response if they try to nip. If you let the other dog make the first move before subduing them the owners don’t seem to argue.

Many, many times I have been chased by dogs, had dogs come up to me – slobbering all over me, run out in front of me on my bike… never once has anyone apologised.

I hate to break this to you, but dogs can only talk in movies from the 1980’s. This may be the reason why apologies aren’t forthcoming 😉

any owner who can’t be bothered to work out what a dog needs to be happy

I have realised that what my dogs need to be happy is about two hours daily of chasing cats, followed by a long sit in a water buffalo wallowing hole. Then they ideally like to come back to the house, sit on the bed with the aircon on and eat ballpoint pens until they're violently sick.

Takes all sorts. 😀

Do small dogs like anyone?! Our dog is always getting yapped at by tiny little things. He ignores them most of the time. Unfortunately when the smaller ones are off the lead and run up to him, he acts aggressively when they jump up. Ours has a chronic ear condition which means he hates other dogs going near them. The reaction from small dog owners when I push their beloved pooch away and shout at them to keep their dog under control is jaw dropping.

It annoys me that many dog owners think it is their god given right to always have their dog off the lead no matter where they are.

lol @ don't talk to my dog like that. Does it speak ****ing English then....get tae ****

Before she was ‘done’ she got a lot of attention when in season.

You dont say!! Best to walk them only in areas where no off lead dogs would be.

Are these dogs married?