[Closed] Friday Music thread. Tunes which have aged really, really well.

1991 😯 Eek!

How to make people feel old Binners!

Lets be honest - most music doesn't stand the test of time.

Really?

Most classic rock & metal sounds exactly like the stuff made today.
All the classic soul and funk stuff is just as fresh as it ever was.

With most rock/pop/soul we still use the same instruments that people did in the '50's.

Only some of the the electronica and overtly digitised stuff has dated, IMO.

We're beyond typical sounds defining eras - we steal from everything these days.
This has the effect of making the old stuff sound new, just because the new stuff sounds old. 😀

We were having the discussion last night Rusty, as I've always claimed that [b]all[/b] 80's music, with the exception of the Smiths and New Order, is utter garbage. For instance, this....

is pretty damn good, but its got 'recorded in 1982' stamped all over it

[i]Most classic rock & metal sounds exactly like the stuff made today.[/i]

I think you mean most rock and metal made today sounds exactly like the classic stuff! Which. Is. Not. A. Good. Thing.

how about Bjork

To be fair, in the 54 years since it was released, not many songs have topped Johnny B.Goode.

Beck?

all 80s music is utter garbage

1981. Could have been recorded yesterday.

pretty damn good, but its got 'recorded in 1982' stamped all over it

I agree, very of it's time, but that doesn't mean it's utter garbage. 😀

Is it me, or is there a correlation between "tunes that have aged really well" and "tunes that I dropped my first pills to"?

Imagine hearing this for the first time now, would you guess it was over 40 years old?

I reckon [i]originality[/i] is the best way to pass the test of time.

Total brainfart today - Hip hop from the late 80's/early 90's starts with a sample of ~"recording from Blue Note records" keep wanting to say Tribe called Quest but it's not them! Help..

Rusty. I don't really think that either. I just say it to wind the missus up 😀

DezB - Member

Most classic rock & metal sounds exactly like the stuff made today.

I think you mean most rock and metal made today sounds exactly like the classic stuff! Which. Is. Not. A. Good. Thing.

Poor isn't it?
Nephew is into Black Stone Cherry -
They sound like a third rate school band, who heard one episode of the Friday Night Rock Show, then were left in a studio and told to get on with it.

I can't get into this, I'll never get any work done, some good shouts already, I might be back later.

OK just one...

Is it me, or is there a correlation between "tunes that have aged really well" and "tunes that I dropped my first pills to"?

It does seem to be going that way, doesn't it? 😀

Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
--- for a rock album it is still just brilliant, and I think the new Stone Sour album will go the same way

Oh go on then, a timeless one for the Radiohead fans:

- Hip hop from the late 80's/early 90's starts with a sample of ~"recording from Blue Note records" keep wanting to say Tribe called Quest but it's not them! Help..

US3

Two albums that i think have aged really well are Nevermind and Blood Sugar Sex Magik

western music is mostly based around chord progressions that sound nice to our ears like DGA (tonic, sub dom, and dominant chords) and scales. Rock/pop/folk sound familiar because they are literally the same

Dull, sorry

Riiiight... so what's the alternative emsz? Listen to stuff that doesn't sound nice to our ears? Oh, hang on... I do that 🙂

and this...

Never guess what album I've been listening to A LOT recently.

+1 for Voodoo Ray
How about Crocodiles by Lloyd Cole & The Commotions

Wasn't Crocodiles, Echo and the Bunnymen?

But good call on Lloyd Cole

- Hip hop from the late 80's/early 90's starts with a sample of ~"recording from Blue Note records" keep wanting to say Tribe called Quest but it's not them! Help..

Yeah, US3, quality

western music is mostly based around chord progressions that sound nice to our ears like DGA (tonic, sub dom, and dominant chords) and scales. Rock/pop/folk sound familiar because they are literally the same

You need to learn some more music theory- complex stuff is well complex most pop is like this because the practioners are limited musically - they can still do some good tunes.

You also need to listen to some unkeyed atonal music if you think this is a bad idea - music without melody is noise - yes I know I sound old its a good thing the yoof listen to stuff i consider noise as it is progress and how it should be.

Please dont pass of drum and bass as progress over classical music though 😉

music without melody is noise

Nah, that's rubbish 😀
Music is just noise we like - there is no acceptable definition. 🙂

Funny, the longer to listen to stuff, the easier it is to appreciate it - we can impose our feelings and emotions onto pretty much any noise - that's why people can get 'into' pretty much any type of music, no matter how atonal or arhythmical.

no ones suggested this one yet? really?

You lot is fogitten this init like..

Faithless - Insomnia.

To get the full experience .... PLAY LOUD

Or
Mass Destruction

Or indeed
God is a DJ

Faithless - awful then, awful now. Aged perfectly 😉

Some Faithless is good, some very good. Some I can take or leave. On the whole, the good stuff has aged well and "God is a DJ" still makes the hairs on my neck stand up.

For me, Baba O'Reilly by The Who stands up really well even now, as does The Wall by Pink Floyd. Actually, Money by Pink Floyd also stands up well and, despite my initial hesitancy towards them, Oasis; Don't Look Back in Anger (is it really 16 years old?) is still good.

Right so rock/pop is all three chords and atonal music is crap according to this thread?! 😆

western music is mostly based around chord progressions that sound nice to our ears like DGA (tonic, sub dom, and dominant chords) and scales. Rock/pop/folk sound familiar because they are literally the same

Quite a reductionist argument, that. Even the most basic three chord dirge triggers other responses based on timbre, tempo, the voice of the singer.

And that doesn't even begin to take into account the context in which you hear the music or the associations it creates in your mind. Imagine how a song like "Blue Velvet" would sound to someone hearing it for the first time in the 60s, versus someone who heard it for the first time on the soundtrack of the David Lynch movie...

music without melody is noise
Nah, that's rubbish

Music is just noise we like - there is no acceptable definition.

that's why people can get 'into' pretty much any type of music, no matter how atonal or arhythmical.

Tongue slightly in cheek for all responses

😀

Difficult album syndrome, innit?
The ones you like most are the ones you hated at first!
Whisky too - you can learn to enjoy and appreciate almost anything if you want to and you put the effort in.

pretentious folk can indeed get into anything no matter how empty and meaningless it is

But all music/art is essentially meaningless itself, as we can never fully understand the intentions of the artist - the only valid meaning is the meaning, or lack of it, that we bring to it.

Pretentious enough for you? 🙂

Ok dont understand why that's not working ^^^^

Primal Scream - movin on up

[i]You need to learn some more music theory[/i]

Haha I dont think so, had more than enough thanks. Just trying to say why some tracks stick in your head.

EDIT- giving up now an just listening to the music.

Hmmmm. Aged well?

emsz - Member
Just trying to say why some tracks stick in your head.

This, [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01ng2qz ]Earworms[/url] on Radio 4, was excellent the other week.

Well worth a pop. 🙂

Willard, yes it has!

western music is mostly based around chord progressions that sound nice to our ears like DGA (tonic, sub dom, and dominant chords) and scales. Rock/pop/folk sound familiar because they are literally the same

to take that further most western music is based on a series of artificially altered tones that we have been exposed to for so long that it sounds 'normal' to us

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_temperament

Which is why traditional indian, japanese, chinese music sounds 'a bit weird' with microtonal intervals but is in fact much closer to being 'in key'

But its ok if you're Beyonce because if you yodal randomly you'll be in tune with everyones ears for some of the time

Plum

Too much chat and not enough Vids fellas..

If it makes your feet tap and you remember where you were when you first heard it..Post it.
Don't gass on about the technicalities.. 🙄

Don't gass on about the technicalities..

Its the only thing I have to contribute as DezB will be all over me if I post about music he doesn't like 😀

From surroundedbyholes:

Good call 🙂

[i]Its the only thing I have to contribute as DezB will be all over me if I post about music he doesn't like[/i]

I'd never do that dearest 😉

Could release this tomorrow and say it's by the Prodigy or Pendulum and da yoof would love it.

I'm gonna post this again cos it's ace.

Are people deliberately posting stuff they think nobody else will have heard of. Of the YouTubes I can only hum two from memory so far.

still sounds bloomin great and makes me get my goth on 😆

Good call Tazzy. This was on 6 music before and still sounds great...

and while we're on the subject of the ginger nut-job

😀

strange how a most of the stuff that has aged well, wouldn't even get a record deal today as it's not bland auto tuned muck.

This lot still sound fresh to me too:

Night crawlers... Hahaha

IMO, I love some of the songs listed so far, and I am not an Elvis fan, but it takes a story to really stand the test of time.

Written in 1677:

How many of these are good tunes/songs and how many of these are good recordings?

Before recorded music a song had to be good song as it was distributed on paper and the first time many people would here it was when they played it themselves. Now we distribute songs as recorded performances

Roman Mars' show makes a good point [url= http://99percentinvisible.org/post/25099083612/episode-56-frozen-music ]here[/url] that a lot of popular music is principally about recordings and performances, not about songs and tunes.

The measure of a good tune is whether you can get a good cover version so its suggested that Led Zep performances and recordings are great but their tunes aren't - thats why Led Zep cover versions are crap. Conversely you can't play Nirvana's Lithium and make it sound bad because the song is so good

Just scrapes into the 15 year window

Album one, track one, riff one:

Almost 20 years later and Trivium are making a good living out of doing second rate copies of this.

Some great tunes, but most still sound ancient. The punk ones specially