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I couldn't see if this has been done yet, so mods, feel free to lock the thread if it has, but...

What do you all make of that 'Brides of ISIS' video?

It's generated quite a bit of discussion among my Muslim friends on facebook, with some finding it offensive, and others thinking that humour is a good way to deal with those evil bar stewards.

In any case: funny? offensive? appropriate? inappropriate?


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 11:30 pm
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at least provide a link to the video if you want to discuss it.


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 11:35 pm
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Posted : 04/01/2017 11:37 pm
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BRB.


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 11:37 pm
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that is well funny.


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 11:43 pm
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Saw it earlier on facebook. Certainly funny.

What's offensive to Muslims ? They are not mocking their religion, they are mocking ISIS / Daesh and those who sign up to be Jihadi brides.

EDIT: I have posted Vice News films here before showing children being trained by IS and singing songs about murdering Jews and a film made in Luton where women where being taught how great the caliphate is. That should worry Muslims more as it's reality and not a comedy sketch.


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 11:53 pm
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I saw this doing the rounds on Facebook. I didn't realise it was a BBC video, shocked they would allow something as controversial.


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 11:55 pm
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Offensive or not, it's painfully unfunny


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 11:56 pm
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shocked they would allow something as controversial.

bloody pleased they would.

bit over worked, but funny juxtapositions. It's a thumbs up from me Simon!


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 11:58 pm
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What Bob said.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 12:00 am
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Well it amused me. Mind you I also found Achmed the Dead Terrorist amusing. And 'Allo 'Allo! which poked fun at Nazi occupation. So I'm probably not the best judge of what is inoffensive humour.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 12:06 am
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What Bob said

Yip.

There's humour in everything, and personally the more offensive the subject the funnier I tend to find it

However the humour in that video was so predictable and safe that the offense element is completely nullified

It's like an ISIS Mrs Brown's Boys.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 12:08 am
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What makes predictable humour amusing is that it's predictable.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 12:13 am
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However the humour in that video was so predictable and safe that the offense element is completely nullified

Charlie Ebdo's cartoons or Theo van Gogh's film didn't turn out to be safe. What do you want to see ?


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 12:18 am
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I didn't roll around the floor but it was amusing.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 12:21 am
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What makes predictable humour amusing is that it's predictable.

Different strokes I guess

I prefer not to see the punchline coming 10 seconds before its said.


 
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Funny or not, it's pretty clearly aimed at ISIS specifically (and not the muslim faith), so unless you are an ISIS-er or fan, one would be stretching to be offended by it. IMHO obviously.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 12:40 am
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No funnier than Hyacinth Bucket ripping it out of middle england dimwits.


 
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unless you are an ISIS-er or fan, one would be stretching to be offended by it. IMHO obviously.

No plenty of people are offended on the basis that "you can't joke about that sort of thing".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/01/04/real-housewives-isis-bbc-criticised-online-insensitive-new-show/

[i]Vanessa Beely agreed, writing: "You are utterly abhorrent BBC. You are going to joke about mass rape too or the use of children as suicide bombers or make light of your role in promoting extremism to deceived and abused women.

"Sick, you are truly sick in the head and morally bankrupt".[/i]

Don't underestimate people's capacity to be offended.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 1:07 am
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Vanessa Beely is a nob.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 1:17 am
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Monkey Dust's rubbish terrorists did it much better ages OK.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 4:03 am
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Perhaps more people should take the piss


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 6:07 am
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Monkey Dust's rubbish terrorists did it much better ages OK.

As did Chris Morris.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 8:54 am
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Interesting debate. I did laugh in a couple of places, and yes it is clearly taking the piss out of ISIS rather than Islam. However not being a Muslim I'm clearly oblivious to most of the potential offence.

However I can see that it might be horribly unfunny to people who've lost family members to ISIS on either side. But on the other hand - humour is a good weapon. The very last thing these people want is to have the piss taken, I'd imagine.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 9:23 am
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I agree that we absolutely [i]should[/i] joke about "that sort of thing". Seemed funny enough to me and definitely felt it was aimed at ISIS (and those vacuous "Real Housewives" shows) rather than Muslims in general.

Having said that, I don't think that religion should be beyond satire anyway.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 9:44 am
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Well it seems to have failed in it's main purpose of advertising as no-one seems to have noticed it's a sketch from a new comedy show.

Some of the other sketches were a lot funnier.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 9:47 am
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[i]Different strokes I guess[/i]

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Posted : 05/01/2017 9:54 am
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#wchatalknboutwillis


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 9:57 am
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I deplore the overuse of hashtags. Even before Graham S


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 10:18 am
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#luvyoutoo


 
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I took it as primarily mocking Isis and those who go to support them, but inevitably it has undertones of mocking some of the behaviours and cultural requirements of Islam whether that is deliberate or not. I don't see what the issue is with mocking any religion. Bring it on, why should any religion be immune to any form is scrutiny than anything else? Certainly doesn't deserve any form of censorship and why should the BBC have to observe any more strict guidelines on things like this than any other media channel?

The fear of offending anyone or any group of people is not a reason to not do something or to censor anything.


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 10:32 am