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3 years at Ferrari, a snip for them at 105 million.
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Sports Illustrated are running the "Newey to Ferrari" story, quoting BusinessF1 magazine as the source, but that's pay walled...
BusinessF1? Isn’t that the same source as the Horner allegations - which seem to have been well and truly brushed under the carpet.
****ter is strangely silent on it too.
Actually, you can preview part of the June edition of the magazine but I have no idea how credible Business F1 is.....
You couldn't make it up!... 🙂
Alpine using RBPT engines would be funny, complete 180 on the Renault/Red Bull relationship from the Vettel years.
LOL at the last comment on this predictably amusing Mansell interview:
“Nice balanced answers as always from Nigel, I see the chips on both his shoulders are still there!”
🙂
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/nigel-mansell-your-questions-answered-1992-f1-champion/
Did I see you lift that rug?
What rug? (hides broom behind back)
”Briatore added more titles with Fernando Alonso in the mid-noughties, before vacating his position in 2009 and taking some more time out of F1.”
Surprisingly little mention of why he took some time away from F1 in that article! Andrew Benson at the BBC was able to write up the same story without touching the carpet or broom once. I've noticed that he's been very principled about mentioned Christian Horner's current difficulties as much as possible too, which is the kind if journalism I can get behind!
I remember an (unconfirmed) story about Tom Walkinshaw taking offence at something written by a journalist and grabbing the guy by the throat and hanging him out over the pit wall with cars racing past behind him. If that's true, at least Walkinshaw was honest, if a little old fashioned. Most team principals would just tell their PR people to ghost any journo who stepped out of line. I'm pretty sure that Flavio would bankrupt them with lawsuits so most of them probably just don't want the hassle.
I enjoyed this video on Briatore and his past "indiscretions"
I think Aston Martin would tick a lot of boxes for Newey: Honda engine, developing team with good budget, near his house.
And his existing work on the Valkyrie
I'll wait till I see a photo of him walking in the front door with his 'new school' sandwich box and satchel!
Is there only Haas he's not been linked with!?
Is there only Haas he’s not been linked with!?
I don't think Newey fits with Gene Haas's business model.
Interesting P1 and P2, Verstappen on the back foot again so expecting him to take pole and sail off into the sunset on Sunday
Lewis half a second clear of Woody - lets see if that gap remains today…
"Lewis half a second clear of Woody – lets see if that gap remains today…"
Woody's going to be copying Hamilton's homework again and end up ahead. Don't know what he's going to cope next season.
Woody’s going to be copying Hamilton’s homework again and end up ahead. Don’t know what he’s going to cope next season.
He will copy his new lead driver whoever that ends up being
Lando and Max are both operating currently on a different level to the rest of the field.
So excited for the race today. If Norris can beat Verstappen into the first corner then he's gonna have a great chance at a win, who knew that this season might be exciting?!
Hamilton to take Verstappen out at the first corner...
Problem for Norris is if Max gets a tow down to the first corner.
Russell doesn’t have race pace and is gifting the win to Max. He formed a train at the start and is doing so again.
Woody shoots himself in the foot by battling with Lando when he should have just let him go. Poor race craft all race.
Why is Perez still in F1?
And why on earth isn’t that a penalty for Carlos after passing Charles, and only completing the move off the track.
If anyone wants to bookmark the ‘notice board’ for event info and decisions etc, it is here:
the-muffin-man
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Woody shoots himself in the foot by battling with Lando when he should have just let him go. Poor race craft all race.
I'm on the fence with this, the Mclaren is quicker but perhaps not so much that he should just wave him past? 🤷🏻♂️ Overtakes aren't the easiest at that circuit and you never know, keeping Lando in the dirty air for a few laps might cause enough tyre deg to mess up his strategy.
Also from a purely selfish spectator POV, it's a lot more entertaining when people actually try and defend. I really enjoyed that battle for second place tbh.
True but George isn’t good enough to keep lando behind for long enough to cause any meaningful degradation.
But George only cares about himself and beating Lewis. The only time he wants to work as a team is if it benefits him. If he'd let Lando go there was a better chance he'd have kept Lewis behind and held on to third.
He doesn't seem to have that holistic view of a race that the very best F1 drivers have.
He was even questioning why Lewis didn't defend Lando...
Yeah the same tyre choice did for Leclerc as well. It was very obviously the wrong tyre for Barcelona.
the-muffin-man
But George only cares about himself and beating Lewis. The only time he wants to work as a team is if it benefits him. If he’d let Lando go there was a better chance he’d have kept Lewis behind and held on to third.
He doesn’t seem to have that holistic view of a race that the very best F1 drivers have.
He was even questioning why Lewis didn’t defend Lando…
But you're saying GR doesn't help unless it benefits him, then giving an example of Hamilton not helping George? 🙂
And what self respecting driver is going out of their way to help a team mate anyway? Even in this same race Carlos nearly took his team mates front wing off! It's every driver for themselves!
On another note:
and there's also a rumour from L'Equipe that Carlos will go to Alpine (and L'Equipe were correct about Gasly resigning today...).
So happy that Stroll is confirmed to keep his seat for next year. Maybe next year will be his year to get to grips with this whole F1 thing.
But you’re saying GR doesn’t help unless it benefits him, then giving an example of Hamilton not helping George?
Hamilton could see third was the best he could get - so no point losing time by racing with Lando.
It was so clear in the race George hadn't got good race pace from the very start. Yes, he got a great start which flattered him but a train soon formed behind him.
And what self respecting driver is going out of their way to help a team mate anyway?
Perez keeping Hamilton at bay to try and help win the championship
Alonso helping Ocon take the win in Hungary
Schumacher doing whatever he could to help Irvine @ Suzuka
they immediately come to mind, but are fairly extreme examples beyond the usual just making sure you don't gift a pass to someone
Finally a solution to track limits nonsense? https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/why-new-perfect-red-bull-ring-kerb-solution-could-banish-f1s-track-limits-problem/10627868/
the-muffin-man
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Hamilton could see third was the best he could get – so no point losing time by racing with Lando.
It was so clear in the race George hadn’t got good race pace from the very start. Yes, he got a great start which flattered him but a train soon formed behind him.
The team were telling George to defend 2nd place against Norris and also telling him to manage his pace. It's in the transcript you posted. 🙂
Averaged across the race, Russell and Hamilton in fact had nearly exactly the same pace (79.84 vs 79.89), despite George having to use the hard tyre which simply didn't work (for anyone).
Finally a solution to track limits nonsense?
I'm hoping so
Always thought that they needed a "low grip" surface behind the kerb, so it was a natural time loss for being off-track, rather than a potential advantage. Looks like they can easily remove it for bike or other events, where it might be an issue.
Lets see if it works
and there’s also a rumour from L’Equipe that Carlos will go to Alpine
Given the almost legendarily miraculous sales powers of Briatore, I'd wouldn't be at all surprised
Stroll apparently staying with Aston for 25 and maybe more. If it weren't for his dad I'd put this in the Perez category of "what the hell do they see in him that's better than a fairly long line of probably quicker but almost definitely cheaper drivers"
It'll save Lawrence Stroll giving him a living allowance - pop him in the F1 team and let sponsors fund his son-of-a-billionaire lifestyle! 🙂
^^^ That whole demo runs thing stinks.
A demo drive like that would have been decided on weeks ago. You don't place someone from a different F1 era like Jos in a contemporary F1 car without some discussion on how it all works or even a quick run in the sim.
Toto may yet get his man next season - be bloody typical though if he went from a rocket-ship Red Bull to a rocket-ship Mercedes! 🤦♂️
I wouldn't describe Jos as a legend, leg end maybe.
I don't like Jos, he sounds like an utter **** but he does deserve credit that he was a credible F1 driver who was unlucky enough to be teammates with one of the all-time greats. I'll always remember him for the refueling fire.
but he does deserve credit that he was a credible F1 driver
Was he though? 1997 to 2003 (with gaps) 100 plus starts and what? 20 points maximum?
Edit: Wiki says 107 starts and 17 points, and yet I don't get invited to parties.
Was he though? 1997 to 2003 (with gaps) 100 plus starts and what? 20 points maximum?
Yes, he was credible. The only competitive car he drove was the Benneton in his rookie year, with Schumacher as his teammate. He also scored points in an Arrows. He never looked like a potential champ, but he wasn't hopeless either.
TBH that's good, and Verstappen should have been penalised for using the same word and 'mongol' as well a few years back.
hA HAHAHAHA
FFS
What a tit Max is.
Classic Verstappen really!
I'm looking forward to the highlights but the guys on BBC feed seemed unanimous that the collision was Max's fault.
Red bull blowing smoke up Max’s diffuser doesn’t help
Podium drivers all thinking it’s on Max too.
Who'd have thought it, max reverting to type when another car matches his
Max has been allowed to race unsportingly for far too long. All goes back to '21 at least.
Gutted for Lando, it should of been Max parking up his car.
andy4dFull Member
Gutted for Lando, it should of been Max parking up his car.
He didn't pull any punches in his post race interview, hopefully the start of some spicy rivalry.
Good to hear Horner talking absolute shite again "plenty of space for Lando out there" 😂
Edit-need to hear Andrea Stella's interview in full... Sounded like he was laying the blame firmly at the stewards door for letting the behaviour go previously
All goes back to ’21 at least.
Well before that, the not moving under braking rule was brought in to stop Max doing it so regularly, early in his F1 career
FFS sorry for the spam but I just realised Max finished ahead of Perez despite having the puncture, extra stop and 10 second penalty. 👏🏻
If Red Bull hope to win the constructors championship they really need Perez to up his game, especially with it turning into a four way fight at the the front.
I may watch the channel four highlights to see how they defend Verstappen or blame Norris.
channel fourDavid Couthard highlights
FTFY, only one opinion coming there. As said above, F1 have failed time and time again to punish Verstappen and Red Bull for thier arrogance and will to smash other drivers off the track. No doubt liberty media are currently clapping thier hands at the media attention - and dollars - thier favourite boy is bringing today.
Max was being Max - but Lando was naive.
You can’t do half a pass cleanly wheel to wheel with Max. It’s got to be a clear opportunity. And he’d been trying half moves for many laps before they came to blows.
Max was being Max – but Lando was naive.
You can’t do half a pass cleanly wheel to wheel with Max. It’s got to be a clear opportunity. And he’d been trying half moves for many laps before they came to blows.
Luckily the race was recorded so you can watch it again and review that
You can’t do half a pass cleanly wheel to wheel with Max
Does he have special dispensation outside of the rules, I guess he does! 🤣
He has a way of defending - like Senna and Schumacher had. if you want to pass then it has to be decisive.
Yes, they were dirty at times. I’m no fan of Max but that’s how he goes racing.
Yes, they were dirty at times. I’m no fan of Max but that’s how he goes racing.
I so bored of this. Max should be held to the rules just like the rest of the field. After all several of the rules we’re currently saddled with are a result of his woeful driving and defending, and the inconsistencies of the stewards falling over themselves not to hold Max back.
It’s had such a deleterious effect on the sport.
And Horner can Get In The Sea with all his falsehoods backing max up.
I agree.
But for some reason he hasn’t been held to account and won’t be held to account. So you have to race him on those terms - you can’t just send it and hope for the best as he’d rather crash than give you space.
