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This puts Ferrari within 24 points of Red Bull in the constructors and Leclerc within 31 points of Verstappen in the drivers championships. Fingers crossed it might not be quite such a Red Bull dominated season after all
I know some bits of it are custom built for the race but info online suggests that the basic circuit including the tunnel is all rideable
I've always wanted to do this!
Even the 8 minutes of highlights were dull, can’t imagine watching the whole thing 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Le Mans in a few weeks 🎉🎉🎉
Great result but what a dull race. Had to lie down for the last third after my race this morning. I didn’t miss anything.
Had to lie down for the last third after my race this morning. I didn’t miss anything.
Nope, you did not
shermer75
Free Member
I know some bits of it are custom built for the race but info online suggests that the basic circuit including the tunnel is all rideable
Yep it is, I rode it a few years ago, really quite interesting to see where/what they actually race on
Anyone know what Lewis meant with his comment about not expecting to be ahead of George in qualifying all season, followed by a cryptic "we'll see"?
More likely that he was teammates with Max at Torro Rosso and there was friction
I was wondering if that was part of the decision making process, from either side
There was an interview with Sainz last year, I can't find the clip now, where he was asked something about racing against Lewis Hamilton and he said something like 'it's never easy going up against an eight time world champion'. The journalist corrected him and said seven, and Carlos said '2021 was Lewis's'
There was an interview with Sainz last year, I can’t find the clip now, where he was asked something about racing against Lewis Hamilton and he said something like ‘it’s never easy going up against an eight time world champion’. The journalist corrected him and said seven, and Carlos said ‘2021 was Lewis’s’
I've always liked him
Anyone know what Lewis meant with his comment about not expecting to be ahead of George in qualifying all season
george is getting all the upgrades first. Not a great suprise given Lewis moving on
george is getting all the upgrades first. Not a great suprise given Lewis moving on
Apparently, Merc had a new front wing for Monaco (as in it was so new, they'd only brought one from the factory). George mentioned on C4 that he and Lewis were gonna toss a coin to decide who got it, but Lewis let him have it (I'm paraphrasing). So it sounds like Lewis is being somewhat disingenuous...
George mentioned on C4 that he and Lewis were gonna toss a coin to decide who got it, but Lewis let him have it (I’m paraphrasing). So it sounds like Lewis is being somewhat disingenuous…
I think what happened was that Lewis didn't want it because there was no spare and therefore they would have had to revert to the old spec if it was damaged in practice, which would mean that the car setup would be compromised.
Hamilton can be very irritating at times - when things don't go well, he tends to whine and moan without really thinking, then he calms down and it's all forgotten. It's just how he is, it doesn't really mean anything.
I read somewhere that Red Bull won’t sign Carlos Jr, not because of tension between him and Max, but because of tension between Carlos Snr and Verstappen Snr!
That dosent surprise me, id be very surprised if Carlos went to Redbull, i cant see Redbull or Max wanting a driver who would push Max and has the hunger for their first WDC, they have seen whats happened in the past when they and other teams had two drivers pushing each other, things can get messy and go wrong
All the time Checo was being number 2 and coming in 2nd things were perfect, so if Checo cant keep that up (clearly he cant) they would be looking for a driver who would be willing to accept they are a number 2 driver
I did hear that Max was trying to get Hulk into the Redbull seat as they are good friends and he knows he would be a number two driver but i guess Redbull didnt want him hence he is off to Sauber/Audi
Bottas finally back on a podium!
Bet the guy who came first says he's faster than an F1 driver lol
because of tension between Carlos Snr and Verstappen Snr!
that would be amazing to see. Can only imagine that Sainz Snr earns wwwaaayyy more respect and clout than Verstappen
What?
You think that ex World Champ Sainz gets more respect than jailbird wife beater Jos?
Surely not?
Surely not?
Depends. Are we looking from the POV of the real world, or in Jos' head?
I read somewhere that Red Bull won’t sign Carlos Jr, not because of tension between him and Max, but because of tension between Carlos Snr and Verstappen Snr!
I think Sainz Jr won't go to RB as he worked hard to extract himself from all that as he realised 7 years ago that it was only ever going to be as a no.2 to Max. Hence his move to Renault. I can't imagine that he'd now (after driving for McLaren and Ferrari) want to go backwards in his career, especially with the unknowns of a spec change and RB's move to an in-house engine.
Ocon out of Alpine!
It'll be no great loss if he leaves F1 entirely.
Honestly, who hasn’t driven a car that’s so bad you’ve just wanted to crash it into something?
(I’m looking at you, 1993 Vauxhall Astra saloon. Actually… come to think of it, I did crash it.)
I'll bet Verstappen will be planning a nice leaving gift for him...
nickc
Full Member
“well, that’s a surprise” said nobody
It surprised me that he wasn't sacked immediately!
I've seen Ocon needlessly clash wheels with teammates before - banging wheels with Perez and throwing away valuable points in holding up Alonso. Ocon has never been able to resist this sort of thing, sharing a garage with a guy with whom he has a long standing antipathy is a recipe for disaster. Alpine desperately needs points, as things stand they're second from last after eight races.
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/sergio-perez-red-bull-new-f1-deal/
Perez confirmed at RB for 2025 & (poss) 2026
Disappointed Perez is carrying on. Too many journeyman (IMHO) drivers in F1.
It's amazing that the top team can't attract a better driver
It’s amazing that the top team can’t attract a better driver
The combination of Verstappen & Horner toxicity must only appeal to a very limited number of drivers...
Would you want to join RB?
Upcoming Driver - Here is the chance to drive possibly the best F1 car there is, but you are not allowed to win any races unless Max has already retired from that race. At all other times you must be subservient to Max and everything we will do will be focussed on Max. You can simply come along for the ride for a year or so.
Older Driver - You can see out your time with possibly the best F1 car there is, but you will be associated with the most toxic and disliked brand in F1 just when you are looking for post-racing retirements gigs as brand ambassador etc. Oh, and you are still not allowed to win and must remain subservient to Max's whims.
This leaves the middle ground of drivers who just need a seat and would be happy with some points occasionally as they know they are never going to make the top of the podium anyway and have given up hope of the WDC in the future already. Oh, and don't mind letting Max win every race and be subservient to Max's whims.
not the most appealing of options
I think RB are probably agnostic as to which driver in the team comes first - It's probably true of every team TBH. But in reality you'd need to be an exceptional talent to get past Max anyway. I think the problem is that with a resurgent Ferraris and Maclarens, and the fact all four of those drivers can get past Perez that surprised me about the decision. But balance that with the fact he's a known entity, it makes the Verstappen side of the garage content (for now at least) and RB don't need any more headaches, you end up with this.
Having Perez as your no.2 when you've clearly got a better car works well enough, when you don't have that car advantage, he's exposed, and then so's Max. For a neutral fans perspective, it makes for more exciting racing though.
This is the ranking which matters, and Perez dropped five places last year. I had him as my own driver of the year back in 2020 after a great 2019 but he's dropping back now. Just riding it out until retirement or genuinely trying but not as quick as he was?
What stands out for me on that list though is that you need to be in a top team to show that you're fast. So extra kudos to Albon I think, it does seem to support the idea that he is outperforming that car
If you listen to the High Performance podcast with Albon he explains the issue very well.
When RedBull had a car advantage Perez could be 0.4 seconds a lap behind Max and that would still be P2
Now that the others are catching up that 0.4s gap is putting him P6-10
Another factor for Red Bull, if they promoted Lawson to be #2 and he was faster than Verstappen, he'd be driven off the track quite literally.
Not likely to happen though is it? Whatever you think of Max, he is undoubtedly the (one of the) quickest driver on the grid.
He has form, why did Ricardo leave?
2026 regs have been announced. Summary:
It says 'reduced ground effect', from what I've been reading it should really say 'massively reduced ground effect' (possible that the venturi tunnels will be gone entirely) so will be quite a big shake up.
Yeah - Dr.Obbs on ****ter is speculating they will be flat floors.
And did Scalextric do the rendering for this!... 🤣
https://twitter.com/dr_obbs/status/1798673899368141221?s=12&t=EQoHg-RGok071Fjc15ZHKw
Seems the teams weren’t all onboard with the new regs!! Typical FIA…
https://twitter.com/dr_obbs/status/1798779146966872281?s=46&t=EQoHg-RGok071Fjc15ZHKw
Apparently today was quite the chaotic day with the release of these new regulations. I’ve been informed that each team has sent a technical representative to meet with the FiA about the release of the regulations at some point today. Apparently the released regs were never finally approved by all teams, and at least two teams are threatening to walk away from the series if they go ahead as released today. There are a LOT of angry team members across the grid.
After a bit more digging, specifically the concerns are around the active aero for the front and rear wings which will NOT be driver controlled, but triggered via control systems and software. The teams feel this is a huge risk in the event of failure. Additionally the concern is that the cost cap would prohibit the cost of replacement active aero parts as well. 💰
Sounds like the FiA had a bit of an issue on their hands with this one. 😳
That was a lot closer than I was expecting. Who put a stick in Ferraris wheel?
👏🏻what a turnaround by mercedes!
I expect both Red Bull and Mclaren will be faster on race pace but still, brilliant job by the engineers.
Amazing how close the fight at the front is in quali now, Hamilton was only 3 tenths back but starts 6 places behind. 😳
That was the most exciting qualy for a looooong time. So close!!
Anyone know what the weather is doing?
According to the Met Office, there's a strong chance of rain in Montreal this afternoon https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/f25dygmvw#?date=2024-06-09
Well this is a fun race! Loads going on! That safety car screwed Lando; he was going off into the distance then…
Merc are eeeking closer - podiums certainly possible for rest of season. Perhaps they should consider not ‘losing’ Lewis those mystery 2-3 tenths in qualifying so they get two cars up front. 🤔
And great win for Jamie Chadwick today…
Forgot to say, (double) overtake of the season for Albon!
Also
Puzzling that your get DQ for minor technical breaches yet such a nothing penalty for doing something dangerous and admitting that it was so you wouldn't disadvantage your driver with a safety car...
As they admitted it was "dangerous" by one driver so as not to disadvantage another. So probably taken at manager level. It would only be fair that bothe drivers (hence the team) were docked places next race.
Why Max as well?
Are you new here?
well quite.
nickc
The 3 place penalty for Sergio and fine for the team seems appropriate, Why Max as well? He had nothing to do with it.
The fine for the team does not seem appropriate to me, €25K is nothing for purposely ignoring a safety rule to benefit your other driver.
Tsunoda received a €10K fine for being late to the anthems at this race for example.
Why Max as well? He had nothing to do with it.
because the team decided to benefit him by dangerous actions. The financial gain from the win will surely be larger than the fine.
Anyone know whether the fine is included in the budget cap or not? If it reduces the amount of money available for parts or development, that would be the major impact, Red Bull won't care about 25K otherwise.
They're exempt I think.
Edit: Sorry that makes little sense. Fines are exempt from the budget cap.
"Fines are exempt from the budget cap."
Pity, because a team could flout the rules with impunity, making the budget cap a bit of a farce.
Pity, because a team could flout the rules with impunity, making the budget cap a bit of a farce.
No, because technical infringements = DQ
Did anyone else see the 3D renderings of the Ferrari to 2026 regs over the weekend - looks way better than those renderings released by F1 above...
https://www.instagram.com/chrispauldesignofficial/
Anyone see Geri Halliwell at the Dior launch?
Not a mis-type
That 2026 Ferrari looks alright doesn't it.
Geri Halliwell
She reportedly deliberate dropped her married name. Interesting times, perhaps “Horn”er will get some kind of comeuppance after all for DickPickgate.
Now we have some actual racing it seems Red Bull are getting worried that Merc and McLarens front wings are getting a bit too flexy (like what there’s is!).
The bloody cheek of that team!! 🤬🤬
Looking all but confirmed regarding Mr Newey’s new job.
Looking all but confirmed regarding Mr Newey’s new job.
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