Nothing like being chucked in at the deep end!...
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/carlos-sainz-out-of-saudi-arabian-grand-prix-bearman-f1-debut/
Beaten to it by 7 seconds! 🙂
Beaten to it by 7 seconds
Which is what I expect Ollie may well say about pole position later
(hope I'm wrong and he properly steps up!)
the-muffin-man
Full MemberBeaten to it by 7 seconds! 🙂
thepurist
Which is what I expect Ollie may well say about pole position later
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I listened to F1:chequered flag this morning. They all agreed that just because Horner and Red Bull want everyone to put this behind them and move on, it's not going to happen until there's transparency. Also Benson said there's more to come and that he's working on some more info.....whatever that means.
Gutted for Sainz...would love to have seen him beat Leclerc this year...trickier if he has to miss a few races
As much as Horner wants it all to go away and people are now starting to wonder if it's all been made up/orchestrated....the press have been biting their tongues so there's obviously more known in the paddock and by journos.
How much testing has Bearmam had? FP3 and then straight into quali is a big ask! At least he knows the circuit though.
I'm hoping for Lawson levels of impressiveness but TBF with that much notice and practice just not binning it will get him some kudos
As the reserve driver I'd like to think he gets regular simulator sessions, so he'd be familiar with the car, and the team.
Back to Horner/Ben Sulyamwhatever his name is- listening to Chequered Flag podcast, Benson kept referring to the whistle-blower - I just thought of Jos.
Blimey what an opportunity. I hope he has time to soak it all up. I'll be cheering him on. 👍
I don’t understand why a KC running the investigation means anything. KCs are hired to represent the interests of thier client. They aren’t independent, hence why both sides have one in a court case. This investigation is no more independent than if Horner had run it himself
The KC is usually hired to give the position of "if I were judging this case/tribunal, then this is what I'd decide from the evidence I have..."
So while the KC isn't "independent" because they're paid by RB, they are trying to give an impartial view. Think about what would happen if the KC got it wrong to RB, and it went to court.
I don’t understand why a KC running the investigation means anything
As per the Mikado "Merely collaborative detail intended to lend artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative"
KCs are hired to represent the interests of thier client. They aren’t independent, hence why both sides have one in a court case. This investigation is no more independent than if Horner had run it himself
In this case the KC was hired to investigate the facts and give a legal opinion. That's a completely different thing than representing a client in court - they're an investigator, not an advocate. It's an internal HR matter because no complaint was made to legal authorities, but a KC should be smart enough to know that their report might end up as evidence in a court case. They will get paid exactly the same regardless of whether they recommend that Horner be sacked or not sacked so it would be pretty dumb of them to write a report that would be discredited in court and ruin their reputation.
So while the KC isn’t “independent” because they’re paid by RB, they are trying to give an impartial view.
Are they or are they there to give a veneer of impartiality to their clients preferred outcome? I imagine RB buy quite a lot of KC time each year
Maybe RB have just followed the process laid down in their own organisation for complaints of this sort? I'd imagine that's a common approach. If either party is unhappy with the decision then a right of appeal will be available and if either party is subsequently fired then I'd expect some legal claim of unfair dismissal might happen too.
Verstappen looking very quick. Dammit
Logan not so much
"the car won't steer right"
hardly a surprise after you wang it into the wall 🙂
That Sauber is going to need a bit of fixing before qualifying
simondbarnes
Full MemberThat Sauber is going to need a bit of fixing before qualifying
Yeah big hit on to the rear wheels, could be a gearbox too.
Last five minutes of the session.
Bearman looking pretty impressive on track
Already going 10 seconds faster than this time yesterday. That’ll take some adjusting to!
Have Mercedes installed an anchor on Lewis's car?
And why have they gone higher downforce for him on one of the fastest tracks of the season. 🤔
Coz he complained about not enough rear downforce.
Boom! Science.
Bearman makes it out of Q1
WTAF?! "And now it appears that Marko, who has served as the team’s driver programme boss and senior advisor since their formation, could be drawn into the dramas.
Austrian broadcaster ORF brought up a rumour to Marko that he will be suspended by Red Bull and therefore miss the round after Saudi Arabia, the Australian Grand Prix, Marko admitting that the “theoretical possibility exists” that this could come to pass."
Is Marko the leak?
Such a dysfunctional team right now. I was wondering if it was a power struggle between Marko and Christian Horner
It’ll be a right turn-up if Red Bull end up selling the team to Horner and then he sells on to Ford! 🤣
That Mercedes is not doing half as well as they thought it would
Impressive quali from Bearmam
Limited running at an unforgiving track, as only just missed on out getting into Q3
RB are the gift that keeps on giving!
Marko is facing suspension and Verstappen has said his future hinges on Marcos future!
International Womens Day
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What’s your point. Or do you get to decide what careers everyone chooses to follow.
You ok, hun?
Sometimes a picture paints a thousand words.
Red Bull (as a brand) seems to have suffered a crisis of culture after Dietrich Mateschitz died. Everything seems to point to a political battle consuming it.
Bit of a shame since the only mountain biking I was likely to watch this year was RB events. It's starting to feel a bit dirty even doing that.
Red Bull (as a brand) seems to have suffered a crisis of culture after Dietrich Mateschitz died
Their culture was set up under his watch. What we're seeing now is fighting over the empire he left behind by the people that he hired. I personally find all the people involved extremely dislikeable - Jos Verstappen and Helmut Marko especially, but Christian Horner and the Thai side of the ownership are also impossible to find likeable. But this is the culture that Mateschitz set up, it's not like Marko and Horner suddenly turned to the dark side as soon as he died.
Is it possible that the FIA are setting Red Bull up as pantomime villans for people to hate, like in that dodgy wrestling format?
International Womens Day
Jesus Christ….wtf were they drinking when this was decided as a good idea?
Jesus Christ….wtf were they drinking when this was decided as a good idea?
Surely it's not real ?!
Is it possible that the FIA are setting Red Bull up as pantomime villans for people to hate
Is it possible that Red Bull did this to themselves and the FIA have nothing to do with it apart from watching in horror and disgust?
Jesus Christ….wtf were they drinking when this was decided as a good idea?
I know fancy thinking women need a special day for no apparent reason
They’ve screwed Lewis again - why not pit? Even if there’s another safety car he’ll be even further behind the leaders as they won’t need to stop again.
