I don't blame any one thing, seems to me to be a multitude of reasons creating the perfect storm of expanding girth.
Fizzy drinks and Greggs sausage rolls seem to be a kid in a buggies staple diet in most larger towns in this country
I dunno where you live but I've never seen that.
Been watching that 'Fat the fight of my life' series for the past few weeks.
What's come across is that the people involved have all ended up using food to compensate/mask other things in their lives that they can't cope with or don't feel in control of.
Weight loss isn't so much about eating less and exercising more, it's about removing the reason why you're eating too much. The people who've had the biggest success are the ones who've faced their 'demons' and felt good about themselves as a result.
Clearly they're a bunch of people pre-selected by the tv show and maybe they were chosen for the reasons I've outlined above but I am convinced that, for the majority of people, weight loss is a far more complex process than just deciding to eat a bit less every day.
I dunno where you live but I've never seen that.
To be fair I've seen it, just for good measure she usually had two massive bottles of Lambrini in the buggy too. Usually during the daytime rather than evening. Sharrow in Sheffield can be a special place.
Anyway, first google result
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/dietandfitness/10126042/Britons-getting-fatter-despite-consuming-fewer-calories.html
A man in his twenties weighs around 15 lbs, 7kg, more than a man in his twenties three decades earlier, while someone in their 50s weighs 30 lbs more.
New research suggests the average modern Briton now spends more than 20 hours a day sitting or lying down, whether asleep or awake.
Not sure of the authority of their sources
I probably spend more than 20 hours a day not stood up.
I work at home at a desk, don't have to do a school walk/cycle any more and other than the odd errand or a mid week bike ride don't much leave the house from Monday to Friday.
Yep me too, 7-8hrs sleep and probably 6.5hrs at work sat down. 1hr in total in the car.
Actually reckon 17-19hrs sat or lying down is fairly normal for me. I do wonder what sort of shape I'd be if I stopped running and biking. Spherical at a guess.
Thinking about it, the only thing I miss about warehousing is that I spent 80% of the day on my feet.
New research suggests the average modern Briton now spends more than 20 hours a day sitting or lying down, whether asleep or awake.
I reckon that's true. I train daily for 2-3 hours with additional riding or a dog walk at the weekend.
I reckon it's unlikely I accumulate more than another hour or so with general faffing about.
Sad times.
Wwaswas
I think you have it. Seriously.
Other than that I will leave this thread due to the small minded fools that judge others on their own misguided principles. (Previous pages, stupidly read it all just now)
I'm off to cool my pi$$ before it boils over , in a bucket of iced water. After that, as a fattie I will obviously be compelled to eat the bucket and drive to the nearest burger bar and order the entire menu .....twice
About the only compensation I have with my new job is that I have no clue what I'm doing and spent a lot of time thinking at near maximum capacity. Other than that it's near zero activity.
The other element that's interesting me is the normalisation of snacks in the office. On any given day I'll be offered biscuits on at least 3 occasions, despite never eating biscuits at work. We often get members of the public come in to visit the Paramedics and to see the aircraft. They are often briefed (along with the H&S) to bring in chocolates or cake, so there is that thrown into the mix. Just for good measure every Friday is doughnut Friday.
Back in my logistics days the stock control office used to have draws literally stuffed full of snacks. Although some if them where "diet" chocolate bars so that's ok.
Sad times
Really? What were the statistics 50 years ago?
Was everyone playing badminton or riding their bike eight hours a day? I suspect not.
You could go back to how things were. Why not get a job in a factory that's 5 miles from your house operating a machine standing up, walk there and back every day, then spend what's left of evenings digging in the garden to grow food or maybe washing clothes by hand..?
I'm off to cool my pi$$ before it boils over , in a bucket of iced water. After that, as a fattie I will obviously be compelled to eat the bucket and drive to the nearest burger bar and order the entire menu .....twice
Last week I ate a pot of Hagen Daaz in one sitting 😳 yet also 😀
What's come across is that the people involved have all ended up using food to compensate/mask other things in their lives that they can't cope with or don't feel in control of.Weight loss isn't so much about eating less and exercising more, it's about removing the reason why you're eating too much. The people who've had the biggest success are the ones who've faced their 'demons' and felt good about themselves as a result.
This.
I've had mild depression/low self esteem/social anxiety for a long time. I don't drink, don't smoke and never done recreational drugs but I do comfort eat. A lot.
Earlier this year I had a spell of feeling quite good, managed to cut out all the crap and lost 2 stones between february and june. Back to my usual mood now and put half a stone back on.
As above, I think with most overweight people there's a whole lot more going on than simply greed.
Last week I ate a pot of Hagen Daaz in one sitting
Entire packets of biscuits are known to vanish when I'm left in the house on my own.
Asda were selling stale custard donuts a couple of months ago at 25p for a bag of six. I bought a bag. I ate a bag.
Last December, I got into a December [url= http://www.mincepiecount.com/ ]#mincepiecount[/url] competition on Twitter; I was fourth. I aim to win this year, so I'll be better organised and pace myself rather than eating six in a day then nothing for a day or two.
[quote=birky]This.
I've had mild depression/low self esteem/social anxiety for a long time. I don't drink, don't smoke and never done recreational drugs but I do comfort eat. A lot.
Earlier this year I had a spell of feeling quite good, managed to cut out all the crap and lost 2 stones between february and june. Back to my usual mood now and put half a stone back on.
As above, I think with most overweight people there's a whole lot more going on than simply greed.
The same can be said for the opposite - anorexia - by focusing on [b]not[/b] eating, their minds are not thinking about their demons.
We are all overweight? Apparently I should be 13.5stone. I'm 16 currently. If I dropped 0.5 I'd be spot on. The stats are crock. My gut needs a trim but I'm still in 34" pants - wear the same jeans from 10yrs ago.
It's ok wearing 34" jeans but how big is your overhang, muffin top or full batch loaf? 😀
Whatever, haven't read any of this, but the photo referred to by the OP is bloody funny.
molgrips - Member
Fizzy drinks and Greggs sausage rolls seem to be a kid in a buggies staple diet in most larger towns in this country
I dunno where you live but I've never seen that.POSTED 1 HOUR AGO # REPORT-POST
Pretty regularly, and as I'm sure you live in South Wales, it was very prevalent the last time I was in Caerphilly.
I dunno where you live but I've never seen that.
I regularly see secondary school kids walking to school while drinking a massive can of Monster and eating a bag full of something made of sugar and gelatin.
But, that's nothing new. I remember my mate's dad telling us he always spent his dinner money on ice cream and cola, and my dad's teeth fell out because of years of eating rhubarb dipped in sugar as a kid.
Sausage rolls aren't particularly bad on occasion, but fizzy drinks are bad. I've rarely seen a kid under the age of maybe 6 or 7 drinking any.
Fizzy drinks are bad, but juice shoots and the like are bad too and loads of kids drink those.
I think fruit shoots are not as bad, having much less sugar, but they are still full of sweetners, which may also be bad.
Fruit shoots are one of the worse drinks available.
There everything this thread is about perfectly encapsulated in an overpackaged, overmarketed container.
I don't think they are one of the worst drinks. Pop is far worse.
My kids don't even like them. However, there is next to no sugar in them. There's much more sugar in real fruit juice. And whoever says 'just give them water' must never have had kids imo.
Stella, crisps & nuts after night rides, mmm yum. Am I overweight? Yup, do I wish I was thinner? Yup, do I like food n drink? Yup, *shrugs* what you gonna do?
My kids love water, the fridge is full of it nicely chilled. Sometimes they make it up with squash. Mostly without though, my daughters school doesnt even allow any kind of fruit juice, they can only have water. They all look pretty happy.
BTW Fruit shoots have 23g of sugar in each bottle thats around [b]5 teaspoons [/b]in each of thos dinky little bottles.
They are a cheap sugary product cynically marketed at kids.
Molly mine pretty much drank just water as wee kids. Water is still eldest's drink of choice and youngest likes her juice v weak.
It can be done.
I might read the whole thread when I can get round to it, however - I have quite a light frame, so even at 6ft, I looked a bit of a biffer at 15st. Luckily for me, it's quite easy for me to lose weight and currently sit somewhere between 11.5-12st and 30" waist.
Biking mates used to take the piss, as we now do to someone who's taken my place, but that's banter between mates. My change in physique has partly been down to going to the gym and this also seems to have encouraged others to do so - so that's a positive.
With regards to eating, I also try and pass on eating tips - at least what works for me. Some people take heed and find it works.
With regards to the cost of healthy eating, obviously not across the whole scale of meals, but an example - I'd imagine, folk who work from their car tend to complain about lack of options. Go and find a Morrisons - their salad bar is fantastic and you can get a really healthy box that will last you all day, for half the price of a Big Mac meal.
Assume this is a rhetorical question, but it is possible to enjoy eating healthy food, or exercise restraint and enjoy unhealthy food as treats rather than constantly. 😀Yup, do I like food n drink? Yup, *shrugs* what you gonna do?
BTW Fruit shoots have 23g of sugar in each bottle thats around 5 teaspoons in each of thos dinky little bottles.
Ah, I was looking at the low sugar ones. I thought they were all low sugar, but I never buy them so I hadn't looked closely.
It can be done.
Depends on the kid I think, as with most things. Kids love sweet stuff, generally - always have and always will. I think we do well to keep as much of a lid on it as we do.
Fruit shoots have 23g of sugar in each bottle thats around 5 teaspoons in each of thos dinky little bottles.
Seriously? Source? The reason I ask is Mrshora swears by them in pubs whereas I think they are crock.
It's on the Britvic website.
I'd clicked on the low sugar ones without realising it when I looked.
Fruit shoots were the subject of a C4 documentry recently.
I didnt like them beforehand, mostly because I'm tight but secondly after tasting one I realised just how mega strong they are.
It's the subtle marketing "fruit" shoot that makes you think there ok but actually there pretty much the same as coke or whatever.
I only started taking an interest in this stuff whilst losing weight myself, the outcome of much reading on the subject is that sugar is the cause of the problem. The stuff is everywere, very difficult to avoid especially in foods marketed at kids and it is the problem not fats or lack of exercise.
Heres a link to some TED talks, its a bit long winded but the Lustig one "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" is worth ago.
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/27/20-online-talks-change-your-life ]TED Talks[/url]
If you have time I would also recomend the Albert Bartlett one on population growth and my favourite Amy Cuddy on body language, not sure what its about but I could watch her all day.
the outcome of much reading on the subject is that sugar is the cause of the problem.
I agree, except for it being difficult to avoid. But people don't know not to buy processed crap.
Just like smokers dont realise its bad for them and those that dont exercise have not been told that its better to exercise.
they do know it is just that it is easier to not act.
I don't know, molgrips probably has a point. On the last page he was swearing blind fruit shoots were healthy. So if even he can display such ignorance, how do mere mortals have a chance... 😀
On the last page he was swearing blind fruit shoots were healthy.
I bloody well was not!
hora - Member
Fruit shoots have 23g of sugar in each bottle thats around 5 teaspoons in each of thos dinky little bottles.Seriously? Source? The reason I ask is Mrshora swears by them in pubs whereas I think they are crock.
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http://www.britvic.co.uk/en/Our-brands/Fruit-Shoot.aspx
Am I looking at the same things, looks like 10gm to me!?
as a race, we humans are addicts, addicted to sugar.
am i fatist? yep.
theres a big bit of my brain that tells me its something they can / should do something about but theres also a knowledge that many people inherit the way they eat from their parents or the environment they grow up in. Its not a gene they inherit, just a habit. so I can usually temper myself not to outwardly say or inwardly think much about it, to deal with the person for who they are.
But, yes I am fat-ist.
I may be exaggerating slightly, 😀 the point is you are right when you say sugar and added crap is very difficult to avoid because it's everywhere, and processed foods are unfortunately extremely ingrained in our culture now.I bloody well was not!
Yep. I'm no health freak really but I'm getting pretty turned off by all the processed artifical foods masquerading as meals, but lots of people seem to yum them down.
The fewer ingredients on the packet the better, I reckon. Generally speaking at any rate.
Re sugar: For me, somehow, sweet treats (not too processed mind!) are REALLY REALLY good. I mean seriously. I bloody LOVE them. It really does make me sad when I don't have them. Like giving up watching movies or something.
Looked at orange one, 10g per 100ml. The bottles are 200ml, so that makes 20g per bottle.
That's quite a bit. I think the other flavours have different quantity of sugar (11g/12g per 100ml).
The bottles are 200ml
DOH!!!
Fruit drinks will have a lot of sugar as there is a lot of sugar in [most] fruit
Grape juice is 16 g sugar per 100ml for example
True enough, but there's not much fruit in a "fruit shoot"
My daughter likes them if they are diluted a bit. The bottles are a handy size as well, I use them for running sometimes, a full size bottle can be clumsy if your only out for an hour.
