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 IanW
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I took the 23g from wikipedia but thats intresting Britvic should choose to use per 100ml rather per bottle and also I wonder if those rda's are for children or adults?

If there adults it means that one bottle is in the region of 50% a childs rda of sugar.(if there actually is a recomended amount?)

They are slippery ****ers you see.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 11:51 am
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I think fruit shoots are not as bad, having much less sugar, but they are still full of sweetners, which may also be bad.

...or it may not.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 11:51 am
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[i]They are slippery ****ers you see. [/i]

try not greasing them - unlubed children are a lot easier to get dressed.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 11:52 am
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Fruit drinks will have a lot of sugar as there is a lot of sugar in [most] fruit

Grape juice is 16 g sugar per 100ml for example

Eat fruit, don't drink fruit juice. You only think it's good for you because the people selling it tell you it is.

I took the 23g from wikipedia but thats intresting Britvic should choose to use per 100ml rather per bottle
Interesting, or an example of manufacturers trying to manipulate the consumer? Single serving items should have the nutritional information listed [i]by serving[/i] not per 100ml or 100g


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 11:53 am
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Everyone should lighten up. 🙂


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 11:56 am
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I took the 23g from wikipedia but thats intresting Britvic should choose to use per 100ml rather per bottle and also I wonder if those rda's are for children or adults?

Have a look at the Fruit Shoot website, clearly aimed at kids. If there is nutritional data there it's hidden.

It's a separate site to the Brit Vic site, its almost like its designed to deflect attention away from what's actually in them.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 11:57 am
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Interesting, or an example of manufacturers trying to manipulate the consumer? Single serving items should have the nutritional information listed by serving not per 100ml or 100g

Or the manufacturer simply complying with the EU guidelines for labeling?


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 12:02 pm
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Have a look at the Fruit Shoot website, clearly aimed at kids

Welcome to the 20th century.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 12:11 pm
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Or the manufacturer simply complying with the EU guidelines for labeling?
That would be their excuse, yes of course. No reason why they can't choose to optionally label it per serving as well though, which would be much more useful to consumers.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 12:17 pm
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Depite being obese I dont recall anyone catching me up & passing me round Cannock last week. Must have been 20 racing snakes either wheezing their way up the hill or collapsed at the top.

Christ, he's on a singlespeed
Said one.
And he's fat
Said another.
🙂
Naturally, I was deeply hurted. 😀


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 1:12 pm
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that would explain why all the top end cyclists carry so much weight then wont it 😕


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 1:17 pm
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i have just eaten 2 packets of crisps - 360 cals in all.....feel quite guilty now !


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 1:20 pm
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Depite being obese I dont recall anyone catching me up & passing me round Cannock last week

Cannock is quite narrow in places, and you've said you're quite wide in places, so they probably couldn't get past if they wanted. 😀


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 1:23 pm
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You could go back to how things were. Why not get a job in a factory that's 5 miles from your house operating a machine standing up, walk there and back every day, then spend what's left of evenings digging in the garden to grow food or maybe washing clothes by hand..?

Nah, I think I'd rather stick with chatting up strangers on the internet whilst waiting for some java script to run. Stopping off in my Audi on the 60 mile commute to buy a ready meal and a bottle of red from M&S (hopefully they'll have some Peanut Butter ice cream in stock too). Then it's a night of ignoring the mrs whilst she tries to disect Corrie.

Happy days.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 2:01 pm
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Welcome to the 20th century

The rest of us have been in the 21st century for quite some time now..........

Incidentally, some of my best friends are fat 🙂


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 2:23 pm
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The rest of us have been in the 21st century for quite some time now

Exactly!


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 2:39 pm
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That only counts as 1/2 a sarcastic post. Although the first one counts as a full sarcastic post.

I'm not really up to speed on websites aimed at kids. So I'm happy to be outdated.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 2:51 pm
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wow, the fruitshoot thread and i thought it was a fat-ist thread, ooops sorry I must have misunderstood

ahahahahahahahaha 😀


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 2:58 pm
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I'd rather they were arguing about fruitshoots than carrying on with the other shit, tbh.


 
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😆

Shakes head and flounces....probably


 
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The Fruitshoots in my fridge are 10 calories per 200ml.

When I started eating healthily a while ago I spent some time actually analysing what I was eating.

Alpen for breakfast? - Turns out it's full of sugar.
Orange juice is healthy right? - About the same sugar hit as a can of full fat coke.
"Roasted" chicken from the supermarket? - Full of sugar and all sorts of junk to give it that taste.
Ready meals? - oh god don't get me started, most of them are junk.

I found myself becoming angry when food shopping - honestly most of the stuff we're sold as the "healthy" option is full of crap.

It was a real eye opener. Now I mainly eat lean chicken breast that I oven cook, baked salmon, plenty of salad with some olive oil and soy sauce. Drink water and milk. Cut down on bread, if I do eat a cereal it's now just plain oats with some raisins for flavour.

Combined with exercising (not cardio, mainly freeweights) twice a week I've dropped from nearly 15st to just about 11st.

It's been really difficult not to fall off the wagon and return to eating pizza and kebabs regularly, but I think I'm slowly training myself to eat better.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 3:36 pm
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...I found myself becoming angry when food shopping - honestly most of the stuff we're sold as the "healthy" option is full of crap...

As I tell my wife every time she starts talking about losing weight - stop buying industrial food, buy ingredients.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 4:55 pm
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Orange juice is healthy right? - About the same sugar hit as a can of full fat coke.

Yes and no (it's different sugar, or it might be), but agreed don't drink a lot of it.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 4:57 pm
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Sugar is not unhealthy per se but an excess is - as noted pages ago Fruit has sugar in it but that does not mean it is unhealthy in the same way a biscuit is unhealthy

Its about balance and eating fruit is part of that balance. Eating biscuits [ often] is probably not essential to health.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 5:41 pm
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Neither is eating fruit.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 6:12 pm
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However 'right on' you are, it's still funny when fat people fall over.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 6:39 pm
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Yes everyone knows it is as important to eat biscuits as fruit [s]sometimes[/s] too often you take your "devils advocate "to the point you just talk nonsense and look stupid.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 6:44 pm
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@JY

Don't do it. Step away from the Molgrips.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 6:46 pm
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More fruitshootism...

So a bit more research (googling) reveals:

The RDA usually quoted in labelling for sugars is around 90grams per day for an adult, that includes the complex sugars found in your bread and fruit etc. It can come from simple added sugar found in fruit shoots and sweets but theres no actual need for any of that stuff at all.

So Britvic's claim of 10g being 10% of the daily allowance is misrepresenting the truth to quite a degree. (it is the law to quote by 100ml/g but most responsible manufacturers also quote serving, unless they have something to hide). The 10% is also an adults allowance..sort of although nobody adult or child needs any of the type of sugar in this product.

Based on 90grams for an adult the RDA for a 7yr old is 68gram(75%) and [b]one serving @ 23g of sugar is 34% of an RDA[/b] but thats an RDA that should actually be used consuming fruit and stuff that just happens to have sugar in it but also has lots of other good stuff.

All round a really scummy product, with marketing obviously designed to deceive.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 6:51 pm
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turns gaze in the direction of Jamie [img] [/img]


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 6:57 pm
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ps I do appreciate it when people do something about it but I cannot understand how at 30 stone they realise they need to change not at 15 stone where it would have been easier and simpler for everyone involved

The first comment you made was worse, but the one above highlights the fact that you have little imagination. And understanding.
Over eating can quickly become an impulsive addiction and weight gain is insidious. Lets pray you never put on a few too many pounds, it would be awful if you repulsed yourself.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 7:09 pm
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Run Jamie, while you still can.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 7:22 pm
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Reflounces


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 7:23 pm
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The only useful thing I've learned from this thread is you can get Calzone with doner meat 🙂

The rest of it is bollocks 🙁


 
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Interesting, or an example of manufacturers trying to manipulate the consumer? Single serving items should have the nutritional information listed by serving not per 100ml or 100g

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oh but hang on, I just checked 😉 a fruit shoot bottle, and along with the official nutrition per 100ml they're legally required to provide it also gives the nutrition for the whole bottle.


 
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Based on 90grams for an adult the RDA for a 7yr old is 68gram(75%)

Where do you get your 75% from?


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 9:54 pm
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It was an nhs site which quoted 1530 ish calories per day for a 7 year old and believe the nutrional info uses the 2000 calories recomended for a female adult as the basis of its proportions.

I'm on a tablet now so can't (be arsed to) find the exact reference, tbh that it was 75% slightly surprised me, expected it to be less.

Other references recomended nil added sugar or a figure repeated by several american organisations was 6 teaspoons per day for an adult female. FS is five in one serving.


 
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