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Thornbridge Green Mountain is similar (but better I think). I too am boycotting Brewdog – there is both better beer and beer from better people to be found elsewhere!
Thornbridge aren't exactly controversy free either.
grantyboy
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highly recommend another north east brewery, Fierce BeerTheir Cafe Racer is amazing
Dirty Sanchez....damn! not making it just now.
Pretty much mid way between Dundee and Aberdeen 😀
I was thinking of 71 Brewing - 🤦♂️ again. It's all these bloody numbers!
On the plus side, I didn't realise 6 North were there, and I'm going to be staying about 10 miles away in April so I might well pay them a visit if they have a taproom!
My go-to hazy NEIPA is Allendale Dirty Deeds - it's fairly widely available in the supermarkets round here, but that might be because they're fairly local.
Thornbridge Green Mountain is similar (but better I think). I too am boycotting Brewdog – there is both better beer and beer from better people to be found elsewhere!
I think we have to boycott Thornbridge as one of the directors or their partner is connected to some dodgy government training scheme that went bust or something.
Thnaks for the hazy ale suggestions all. I guess the key to success with such beers is getting them in you before they’ve sat too long in storage. I’ll keep my peepers peeled for those and also likely checking out a local beer emporium later on 🙂
What’s the score with families being kicked off the estate?
the housing will have been tied to the jobs so exempt from the scottish protections for tenants. If i want to sell my rental flat I have to give 6 months notice. a tied house does not get this protection. Its pretty shoddy behaviour
I do not care what the jobs were even if a part of the reprehensible grouse farming. Its hardly ethical from a company that likes to tell everyone what high ethical standards they support.
can't say I'd get too worked up about it personally, odd though that they weren't offered jobs as rangers or to be involved in the forest in some way... although nothing saying that they weren't... there's a [I]lot[/I] of "if this is true" and "there are claims of" in all the reports I've seen, not much in the way of hard facts.I do not care what the jobs were even if a part of the reprehensible grouse farming. Its hardly ethical from a company that likes to tell everyone what high ethical standards they support.
That’s terrible fancy wanting to replant forests and stop grouse shooting.
If you are interested in what Brewdog consider "re-wilding" then I can point you to a couple of critiques and suggest you look at the government subsidies available for tree-planting.
As per TJ, I have little sympathy for the grouse-shooting set but deer control should continue to be necessary, as should many of the other roles - and perhaps retraining might have been better than eviction?
and perhaps retraining might have been better than eviction?
May well have been, we've no idea if they were offered a different role, and turned it down or were just shown the door. The P&J article is lacking in any details whatsoever, and is just a polemic railing against "incomers" and (of all things) comparing this to highland clearance, which, given that it's written by a member of the grouse moor shooting association, takes some balls.
To me its the fact ll other tenacies in Scotland require 6 months notice if you want to sell the property vacant but they must have use the tied homes loophole to evict that stinks
That an of course the shite beer
This is pretty much a textbook non-apology
He went on to say: "Secondly, and more importantly, I hugely regret anyone feeling in any way uncomfortable around me, as the programme set out."
"This is absolutely the last thing I want and something I will learn from immediately. I truly apologise to anyone who felt that way. This was never my intention.
"However, I would argue that people feeling uncomfortable around me based on false rumours and misinformation does not represent inappropriate behaviour on my behalf."
'I'm genuinely sorry but it's all lies'
we’ve no idea if they were offered a different role, and turned it down or were just shown the door.
The estate is next to me and I've been told no option was available.
if there’s no need for them that’s fair enough - any fingers of blame should be pointed at whoever chose to sell the land/business, not who bought it.The estate is next to me and I’ve been told no option was available.
The only point of concern is, was there any truth in the speculation they were summarily evicted via a loophole?
This is pretty much a textbook non-apology
'I'm sorry for how you felt.'
rather than
'I'm sorry for how I made you feel' or even better, 'I'm sorry for what I did.'
Did I miss it or was there nothing about the other founder Martin Dickie? Has he left or is he just a bit less of a Dickie?
The only point of concern is, was there any truth in the speculation they were summarily evicted via a loophole?
It must be so. the standard scottish tenacy requires 6 months notice to evict to sell. If its a tied house IE one you get with your job this does not apply.
Is it 6 months since they bought the estate? they will have bought the estate with the housing tenanted. I don't think its more than 6 months but stand to be corrected
if there’s no need for them that’s fair enough – any fingers of blame should be pointed at whoever chose to sell the land/business, not who bought it.
Really?
Did the seller turf them out or the buyer? Would it have made any difference selling the properties in 6 months or today?
For a company that likes to shout about their ethical and punk credentials this doesn't seem to be either. Wonder how they would feel if a bunch of anarchists set up a squat?
The only point of concern is, was there any truth in the speculation they were summarily evicted via a loophole?
Well TJ has made the law regarding tennencies in Scotland clear and Scotroutes has confirmed no offers were given for continued employment so I'm not sure what else you expect.
Most likely they want the estate clear so they can sell it for folk moving in before the summer. For a pretty price of course.
Punk AF. My arse.
On the Scottish beers that aren't Brewdog, I'm a huge fan of
https://www.overtonebrewing.com/
They are very expensive though
I am a fan of harviston ales. Started off as a small craft brewery. Now hit the mainstream. the only criticism I know of them is that the Schiehallion is now available as a nitrokeg dead beer. I assume so it can be more easily sold in non ale places. Its not as nice as the live ale version
that’s what I’m saying - no-one can offer any actual evidence what has transpired, whether they were kicked out immediately, given a grace period, or what. Everything in your post is just speculative guff.Would it have made any difference selling the properties in 6 months or today?
The only thing I know for certain is that previously the houses on the property were either inhabited by the serfs of the landed overlords, or holiday rentals - never available for locals to buy, so at least that will change.
The beauty of the Brewdog model is that lots of people have bought non tradable shares with no voting rights
I thought I had better check - its more than 6 months since the estate was bought I believe so they could have given the six months notice
Its still shabby behaviour but not as bad as I thought. this is why i asked if it had been over 6 months.
I am a fan of harviston ales.
Heaven Cent MMMMMMMM!
Interesting. Funnily enough, I was in the Brewdog bar in Exeter a few weeks ago. The staff certainly didn't look bullied, they were as chill as if they'd been smoking weed in their breaks (I'm sure they hadn't). I had a cup of tea and some pancakes.
Also, I was supposed to go to the Southampton Brewdog last weekend! But the woman I was going with ghosted me! How mad is that?!
Never had one of their beers though.
This court ruling seems to vindicate him in his accusation that he was conned out of money by someone to help track down online trolls, it doesn't seem to clear him of being a horrible person to the many others who have claimed as much.
The BBC also dispute that the guilty party in the high court case was ever the source of their information, despite what he says.
Handing over 600K to your former girlfriend to track down some trolls! Should have just used it to sue the Beeb, if he's so sure he's been defamed.
The BBC Scotland documentary was pretty poor IMHO.
It was all hearsay with some interviews with folk that had been sacked IIRC.
I have no doubt that he has some challenging character traits, but you'd expect that of a successful business owner of his ilk.
One of the revelations from the BBC doc was that he had shares in Heineken - that's just shrewd investment to manage risks.
This court ruling seems to vindicate him in his accusation that he was conned out of money by someone to help track down online trolls, it doesn’t seem to clear him of being a horrible person to the many others who have claimed as much.
^
Handing over 600K to your former girlfriend to track down some trolls! Should have just used it to sue the Beeb, if he’s so sure he’s been defamed.
Looks like he gave her £100k.the rest is damages.
Her social media presence is interesting. Verified on Instagram and appears to be some kind of model/influencer
Comments on some of her posts about this with replies defending her saying she knew nothing about the court case, didn't turn up to defend herself and therefore lost by default🤔
The Brewdog chap really is a total weapon, isn't he? BrewDog's James Watt launches 'Shadow Doge' to take on UK Government | The National
Luckily his beer tastes like fizzy p**ss and so its absolutely no hardship to boycott it.
Now if the boss of Long Man turned out to be a stroker then that would be more difficult!
Came here to post the same link.
Fortunately I have some Long Man in the larder for when i break my Dry Jan thing. Haven't been drinking Brewdog since he came out as a misogynist, and now it's an even harder no.
The Brewdog chap really is a total weapon, isn't he?
Absolute grifting throbber. Clearly hoping to get noticed/endorsed by Musk.
Absolute grifting throbber. Clearly hoping to get noticed/endorsed by Musk.
Brewdog and Wetherspoons CEO's in battle to see who can drive customers away fastest with their toxic attitude!
Brewdog and Wetherspoons CEO's in battle to see who can drive customers away fastest with their toxic attitude!
I'm not sure their usual customers actually care about this stuff.
I look forward to him standing for Reform at somepoint in the future - he's been a throbber for a long time, he's recently upped that to weapons grade throbber.
I haven't been in either for a very long time and not just because of the bosses.
I haven't been in either for a very long time and not just because of the bosses.
I would boycott Brewdog but their beer is a bit insipid so it's not like I drink it anyway.
Brewdog and Wetherspoons CEO's in battle to see who can drive customers away fastest with their toxic attitude!
I'm not sure their usual customers actually care about this stuff.
We were regular after work / 'team birthday' customers at Brewdog, 10 people once every 2 weeks or so. It stopped instantly when the culture stuff came out. Pre-christmas night out someone (new) proposed meeting at a Spoons because it was "a convenient location and the beer is cheap". It was soundly dismissed by people I didn't really expect to have a moral compass (and drank Tennants where we did go so it wasn't a quality based objection!). You are probably right though that their regulars are going there no matter what - but then I'm nor sure the regulars disagree with the politics either. But my sympathy for "hospitality" industry complaining how hard they have it wanes quickly if they alienate customers.
Brewdog and Wetherspoons CEO's in battle to see who can drive customers away fastest with their toxic attitude!
Bit of a challenge at Edinburgh airport as you have a choice of Wetherspoons or Brewdog for a pint and breakfast before your flight
Brewdog and Wetherspoons CEO's in battle to see who can drive customers away fastest with their toxic attitude!
I'm not sure their usual customers actually care about this stuff.
A lot of them really do. He's hated on the Brewdog investors site and they quite rightly wish he'd disappear as even though he's no longer directly involved in running Brewdog any article about him will mention Brewdog.
