Oh...from Kuenssberg:
Davis warns German audience not to put EU politics ahead of getting a trade deal - 'putting politics above prosperity is never a smart choice.'
No really... 😆
😆
Oh. My. Word.
Davis warns German audience
Was the 'audience', in reality, a glass of sherry? That I could believe.
I have no words....
😯Because putting politics above prosperity is never a smart choice.
Errmmmm - was he talking to a mirror? you really couldn't make this up
Davis repeated Theresa May’s view that Britain was leaving the EU but not the European Union.
Errrmmmmmmm What does EU stand for?
The key pillar of this will be a deep and comprehensive free trade agreement – the scope of which should beyond any the EU has agreed before.”
They realy do still think they can leave the club and retain the benefits
How many months of being told no does dave need to grasp that we wont get any "special deal. We can be in the EU or out but we cannot be in for trade and out for everything else and get a special deal
This must be really bad as even THM has not been on yet to defend the indefensible
[url= https://amp.ft.com/content/3f9b3daa-ca1b-11e7-ab18-7a9fb7d6163e ]What has the EU ever done for British business or jobs?[/url]
Kind of puts paid to the notion that the EU are being deliberately difficult towards the UK, eh?
German journalist: “...why are you leaving?”
Exactly the correct response to a long ramble about the need for deep and lasting ties and free trade between friends and neighbours.
No strategy, no leadership - it's desperate stuff. The EU must be agog at just how diminished we are.
How many months of being told no does dave need to grasp that we wont get any "special deal. We can be in the EU or out but we cannot be in for trade and out for everything else and get a special deal
Isn't being in the EEA, but not in the EU the same as being in for trade and out for everything else? If so, other countries are in exactly that position. (Which does't mean the UK will be able to.)
I can't tell if Davis is just trying to wind up the EU on purpose now, in the hours of fixing a no deal, that's not his fault
putting politics above prosperity is never a smart choice.'
That should be the Tory party's epitaph !
Isn't being in the EEA, but not in the EU the same as being in for trade and out for everything else? If so, other countries are in exactly that position. (Which does't mean the UK will be able to.)
If I recall correctly, the countries that do that pay handsomly for their access. Which our idiots, beholden as they are to the papers and swivel eyed loons, are unwilling to accept.
Still have to harmonise still have to pay to be in it still have to follow the laws and the four freedoms but dont get to vote in the EU - essentially all that would change for us is that we can longer vote - the EU would be dictating to usIsn't being in the EEA, but not in the EU the same as being in for trade and out for everything else?
No basically and pretty sure the Brexit crew ruled it out as they want bespoke - which you can read as in for trade out fore everything else or as the EU term it cake and eat it
putting politics above prosperity is never a smart choice
This phrase will come back to haunt the Tories and Davis.
#strongandstable
Isn't being in the EEA, but not in the EU the same as being in for trade and out for everything else? If so, other countries are in exactly that position. (Which does't mean the UK will be able to.)
If I recall correctly, the countries that do that pay handsomly for their access.
If you can pay to do it it must be possible.
So effectively we would end up paying many billions for the right to curb EU migration, even assuming free movement wasn't part of the trading package.
Would end up cheaper to just meet EU residents at the airport and offer them a grand to piss off.
Outofbreath, why do you seem to think that EFTA countries don't use a shared court, or follow EEA/EU rules? And when (since the referendum not before) have you heard any government minister suggest we will accept a shared court and stick to EEA/EU rules?
Sorry, you may be trying to point out that a compromise position is possible, which is a fair point.
This phrase will come back to haunt the Tories and Davis.#strongandstable
Brexit, politics above prosperity. 😉
No one has said its impossible to be in not least because we are in it now but this statementIf you can pay to do it it must be possible.
is not true it means , pretty much bar voting, in the EU as now with all that entailsIsn't being in the EEA, but not in the EU the same as being in for trade and out for everything else?
We will just swap our direct budget contributions and a limited say in whole the thing runs for a roughly equivalent annual fee and no say. Once our current liabilities to the EU are settled. Plus be subject to EU regulation in terms of market access.
How does that fit on the side of a bus?
We would lose our rebate so we would pay more to have less influence
The EU wont compromise they have said so - we cannot make them change THEIR rules for our benefit.you may be trying to point out that a compromise position is possible, which is a fair point.
What we get will look nothing like what the brexit crew want, which looks nothing like what leave promised us. THis is democracy in the Brave new world
outofbreath - Member
Isn't being in the EEA, but not in the EU the same as being in for trade and out for everything else? If so, other countries are in exactly that position. (Which does't mean the UK will be able to.)If I recall correctly, the countries that do that pay handsomly for their access.
If you can pay to do it it must be possible.
yep
norway pays more per head than we do now to access EEA
but that also means ECJ jurisdiction, which the Maybot has ruled out as one of her many ways of handicapping the UK in the negotiations
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It's amazing how selective quoting can make arguments easy.
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The Irish catch 22 situation is still clear and present...
The Irish Prime Minister has set Theresa May a one-month deadline to explain how she will avoid a damaging hard border with Northern Ireland, or the EU will block Brexit trade talks.Leo Varadkar dismissed Ms May’s claim that negotiations on the future land border are “almost there” as “wishful thinking”, at a breakfast meeting.
[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-irish-prime-minister-leo-varadkar-ireland-border-clarity-theresa-may-trade-talks-block-a8060046.html ]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-irish-prime-minister-leo-varadkar-ireland-border-clarity-theresa-may-trade-talks-block-a8060046.html[/url]
The Irish catch 22 situation is still clear and present...
I think the tory brexit idiots probably just assume that we'll absorb Ireland back into the UK. After all, they can't afford not to have us buying their potatoes, just like how Germany, France and Italy can't afford to not sell us cars, cheese and wine.
*FFS after 300 pages I broke my brexit thread boycott.
Davies now blaming Germany and France for lack of progress. Nothing to do with the fact that the UK has not even come close to meeting the EUs needs. Anyway I thought Germany was so desperate to sell us their cars that they would immediately sign a trade deal favourable to us? We were repeatedly told this.
Also the idea that somehow bankers will be allowed free movement but not for others and non of the other 4 freedoms will apply. This is simple nonsense.
Flounce Bounce 😉FFS after 300 pages I broke my brexit thread boycott.
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Flounce Bounce 😉FFS after 300 pages I broke my brexit thread boycott.
The Hubris of the brexiters is stunning they would blame the moon and the stick if they could not get it together for them 🙄
The whole things beyond a joke now. I'm even failing to find it funny when fishermen and farmers who voted out start crying that they're going to be screwed
At least the thick racists have an excuse, that they are thick racists and can't be expected to do better than vote for the thick racist option. The leavers who are not thick racists, they are the ones to blame.
(not that there were any thick racists, I'm sure, but just in case there were)
What about the thick and deluded like Davies?
I note here that everything the remainers said was inevitable in these negotiations has come to pass, nothing the leavers have said would happen has
true they did not even predict they would win 😉
I had a little browse thru the early parts of this thread looking for outies who claimed everything would be fine. Where are they now? "project fear" was right
Good to see the thicko theme is still going strong
Any luck,we can ban them from being heard in future. And you wonder where they’ve gone 😯
And yet still they beat us - who are the stupid ones???
who are the stupid ones???
They’re all down the pub congratulating each other as it’s “mission accomplished”
How are your predictions of the outcomes of all this mess coming along THM? YOu know - the germans need us to buy their stuff, the adults will soon make a deal, financial services won't be effected that sort of thing?
All the nonsense that you said would happen but hasn't / isn't. Hows that coming along? Especially the we will get a bespoke deal?
I'll remove the killfile to see your answer
Enjoying the hops not the sour grapes
Oh hello TJ how nice to hear from you.
Pretty much smack on thanks. So you can put the block back on and carry on
kimbers, if you’re reading this...am I wrong or do you work in gene-related stuff?
Well that was worth unblocking you for. 😯 Deluded as ever. all your predictions I remember are 100% wrong
😯
It wasn’t worth it. 😉
