[Closed] EU Referendum - are you in or out?

Basically saying that politically I cant sell Norway or Canada option so the onus is on the EU to come up with an alternative.

Shirley the onus is on the UK if were the ones that want brexit?

Thinking, is May proposing to establish a "EEA" with one member and then invite the EU to join?

"What exactly do you want from the EU, and Germany, after this speech?"

> insert waffle <

[ question was from Süddeutsche Zeitung I think ]

Can we demand that the Europeans give us a Brexit deal which stipulates that we don't ever have to see Theresa May or Boris Johnson ever again?

Shirley the onus is on the UK if were the ones that want brexit?

Chris Grayling is a ****.

Yes. Yes, he is. Virtually everything Grayling has touched has gone wrong, the recent legal challenge to swingeing cuts during his tenure at the Justice department are the latest in a long catalogue of failure. If he were handed a broom, he'd grasp it by the wrong end.

'Let's think creatively'

=

'I don't have a scooby what's coming'

She's had 15 months to think creatively, but instead she's fannied around with elections and meaningless waffle, and today is more of the same. Clueless, hopeless, incompetent buffoons.

Clueless, hopeless, incompetent buffoons

Quite.

I missed the speech - can somebody summarise the substantive points she made?

yep.

.........

Does that help?

I missed the speech - can somebody summarise the substantive points she made?

The Norway and Canadian models won't work for us, can we have a bespoke deal, please? No rush, none at all.

We're actually going to play really nice on common security policy now.

Can we have some "creative" ideas, please?
*note: the combined intellect of the Conservative cabinet is incapable of moving the game forwards.

No deal really won't work for us.
*note: Six months after triggering Article 50 without knowing what we actually wanted, we realise that we made a colossal mistake and we hope that you feel a bit sorry for us and continue with the existing arrangements for a while, apart from the bits we don't like, even though it doesn't make any sense.

The damage it's doing to the reputation of the Conservative party is immense. Every cloud and all that.

martinhutch - Member

She's had 15 months to think creatively, but instead she's fannied around with elections and meaningless waffle

When you think of it that is actually [i]quite [/i]creative. "Right we've got a job to do. Instead let's call a general election and destroy our own majority for no reason". You wouldn't have thought of that, would you?

Biggest face palm in history of the world.

But......I don't get it.

How are we going to have an extra £350m a week for the NHS when we are going to have to pay £20bn over two years?

I can't put my finger on it, but something feels wrong here.

And what about the unicorns?

Over the last year I have thought, from time to time, that I might be able to shrug this off and become one of the "let's just get on with it" tendency.

But I can't and I won't. I have a seemingly bottomless well of contempt that I can delve into for the morons who landed us in this predicament.

Is there anywhere where I can find an article with a positive spin on it?

Is there anywhere where I can find an article with a positive spin on it?

I'm sure, in this post-truth world, someone will have a crack.

But remember, not everything on the internet (or indeed anywhere) is true.

Jamby would probably have had a go, but he's flounced.

there is no positive spin. only John Pienarr and Death.

Positive response from Barnier in general but with expected caveats on Ireland (shock horror) and details (no really)

this road we're kicking the can down..... how long is it actually?

I always thought a large proportion of the leavers will have checked out before we actually leave; I'm beginning to think it won't be an issue for me either - and I'm 'only' 48

Is there anywhere where I can find an article with a positive spin on it?

No chance! Anyone with a brain is despairing of this madness. And all the swivel-eyed Daily Mail brigade will be apoplectic as she failed to tell Johnny Foreigner to **** off!, then order the carpet bombing of Paris!

this road we're kicking the can down..... how long is it actually?

Whoah! The important thing is which [b]side[/b] of the road we are kicking it down.

Is it the red, white and blue, land of hope and glory, thin red line, chest-puffing left hand side, or the snidey, surrender-monkey, backstabbing, devious right hand side (also known as the 'wrong' side)?

Upon such distinctions doth the future of the nation depend.

THM I want my ****ing unicorn and it's in your best interests to give it to me sharpish.

I imagine the express/mail/telegraph will be saying it's great.

Even they know a transition is essential, so (rather than admit that brexit was a silly idea) they'll pretend it's what they wanted all along.

Maybot did make a fair few concessions in there, suddenly deciding that ECJ can influence UK courts even managing to say she liked EU workers!
And of course we will keep paying in -no longer with any say on how it's spent, obvs.....

All in a pretty big admission of our weak position,

Still asking EU to be 'creative' coz she can't sell EEA & Canada options to the UK that Brexies & the torries have been selling fantasy Brexit to, was pretty cheeky.

thecaptain - Member
THM I want my **** unicorn and it's in your best interests to give it to me sharpish.

Ironically it's world rhino day today, which is like an uglier, greyer version of a unicorn, but u won't be getting one of them either

I want my unicorn [b]NOW!!!![/b]

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Maybe the big cunning plan is to add two years to the transition timetable, every year.

On the plus side Farage doesn't seem very happy so every cloud and all that... 🙂

Not sure it is coincidence but not a single boy was registered with the name of Nigel last year in the UK 🙂

It's like some kind of sick nightmare. 🙁

pondo - Member
It's like some kind of sick nightmare.

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It [b]is[/b] a sick nightmare except we seemingly can't wake up from this one. And we actively wished for it (or enough idiots did).

"It is like watching a nation busily building its own funeral pyre" to badly quote Enoch Powell. That should outrage a few of our resident fascists as well.

Just consider the absolute mountain of extra work we now have to do for absolutely no reason. Who's going to be doing it all? Who's going to pay their salaries?

What won't get done or funded because people are busy working on fixing a mess we created for no reason?

Read some of the comments on the express site this afternoon.. Quite amusing, they are utterly frothing calling may a traitor, the 'people have spoken' comments get trotted out about every 6th comment. Still.
Calls for Jacob rees mog to be PM, although the best one from today, apparently this transitional period will lead to an invasion of Africans.

I'd quite like to be angry about what they are saying, but truth is they are so absurd it's proving difficult.

I can't wait to hear Jamba Rees Mogg's spin on the Maybots speech...

😆

hardcore Brexit toys well out of the pram over May's speech. so it's achieved something.

Rees Mogg would have expected Mrs May to have given birth to WTO tariffs as Brexit was conceived at the point of referendum.

There is not two ounces of s**t for brains among any of them, i can only assume that the Tory sociopath gene has been fully distributed.

THM you are not required to hold the Jamba post in his/her absence.

We have a winner.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/22/florence-machine-maybot-theresa-may-brexit-speech

Brexit - going going .....

As I have said previously it's a lost deal , no sale, delete it from both prospects and pipeline.

The only question now is... who pulls the plug ?

Theresa or Jeremy (maybe Keir ?)

why was it in Florence if no one apart from british people attended ?

Milton Keynes was booked solid, apparently.

Milton Keynes is a no-no.

Too many roundabouts. Too much chance of a u-turn.

Brexit - going going .....

As I have said previously it's a lost deal , no sale, delete it from both prospects and pipeline.

The only question now is... who pulls the plug ?

Theresa or Jeremy (maybe Keir ?)

describe the mechanism by which you think this is going to happen please .... because I want to believe you, but I don't.

at some point, the govt would have to rescind A50 and the 27 agree to it. I just can't see it.

cchris2lou - Member
why was it in Florence if no one apart from british people attended ?

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Safe distance, so the reek of bullshit and political death might not make it back here. No chance.

People who read the Express and Mail are hateful. As in full of hate. Small people with small cocks* and small minds finding some kind of belonging with similarly awful people.

*Lots of women as well - usually entitled types who've married money and don't want their hard [b]"earned"[/b] (wink-wink) cash to go to waste.

I love this country. And hate what it has come to represent as a result of this nonsense.

Mk is Corbyn country !

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Must admit the frothing of the betrayed brexies calling for Maybot's head on Twitter, Facebook etc has been most amusing today!

She used up every deserted airfield and empty warehouse in the UK during her election campaign, so they've resorted to throwing darts at a map of the world to see where they can go where they're sure not to encounter any actual voters

The next announcement about there not being any grammar schools after all is booked for a beech hut in Papua New Guinea

Boris and the rest of them are being flown over in the back of an RAF Hercules and thrown out the back like the shittest aid drop ever

at some point, the govt would have to rescind A50 and the 27 agree to it. I just can't see it.