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If we do crash out without a deal, what will happen at the ports?
Is there going to be a horrendous backlog because they haven't planned for this?
Does the UK even make enough food for instance?
If we do crash out without a deal, what will happen at the ports?
The head of the Dover Port Authority was on Channel 4 news the other week. His estimate was that even any minor changes to the existing customs union would see twenty-mile tailbacks of artics at every port
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But what does he know? He's probably some 'Enemy of the People'
If we do crash out without a deal, what will happen at the ports?
Is there going to be a horrendous backlog because they haven't planned for this?
as the government arent issuing compulsory purchase orders for new lorry parks around dover, we can assume that No Deal was never actually considered
just lies to feed the RW press
obvs not just borders that suffer, plenty of jobs at risk in the UK
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which means we have to accept an off the shelf deal, as unlike THM I dont think we have time, also the EU offered some concessions for Cameron, why would they offer something better for May, especially as her gov has at times threatened to become a tax haven, withold security info and her own cabinet spent the last year squabbling over what it is they want.
If we do crash out without a deal, what will happen at the ports?
I can't imagine the French flattening Calais to build extra custom posts.
The EU position requires agreement between 27 countries, so to try and get a bespoke transition will probably take months to negotiate, then many more months to negotiate a final deal, the UK in contrast has decided that the only way forward is to block the devolved assemblies and parliament and leave if to the executive to make decisions. So remind me who is approaching this from a democratic perspective?
When did I say we have time! It's obvious we need an extended transition. Two years is just a message. It will be longer
Two years is just a message. It will be longer
paying 20bn for 2 years transition will be a hard enough sell as it is, I expect some serious tory subterfuge to hide the costs
the torygraph, mail etc made no mention of the exit bill Im assuming
Two years is just a message. It will be [s]longer[/s] forever
Two years is just a message. It will be [s]longer[/s] forever
or until there is a United Ireland which solves that big problem....
There is no coincidence in the 20
All this noise is about shaping the message for the great unwashed in the U.K. and Europe
The strat comm guys are v busy
"Look we are paying....no we are not really."
"Look they are paying ... phew that was close"
teamhurtmore - Member
All this noise is about shaping the message for the great unwashed in the U.K. and Europe
yep Maybot will rollover on all EU demands and the Tories & the press will do their best to hide the fact that we are losing sovreignity #fakecontrol
The gullible will buy it too
most people are more concerned by paying the bills and x-factor
Right sentiment, wrong order of priorities.
Another ticking bomb under the U.K......
You are right, though. By the time it starts really hitting the deluded little Englanders who voted for this nonsense it will be too late.
Man looking at long customs queue exclaims "I never voted for this". Yes, you did, you just didn't bother to find out that you were voting for it.
Knowing us as nation we will come around to sense a millisecond after the final 'deal' is done and change our minds again.
Beyond farce.
or until there is a United Ireland which solves that big problem....
Probably more chance of that happening.
teamhurtmore - Member
There is no coincidence in the 20
So we keep our exact budget contributions for the entire of the 7 year funding cycle ?
I am more amazed that so many people are STILL in denial
It's not denial it's just an unwillingness to accept it's a good idea - irrespective of the number of people who voted for it. I think they are wrong and I believe I am within my rights to say so.
You'll be telling us next no-one should vote for political parties who stand no chance of power 'cos the majority want someone else.
This charade isn't over by any means.
THM, I think it is reasonable to say that there are very few to no upsides to Brexit and getting behind it, accepting it etc. doesn't actually change that fact.
So why not argue against it? Democracy is democracy, if you see something as a stupid idea do you accept "the will of the people" or do you make your voice heard and argue that it is a stupid idea?
If we go back to my earlier point, how much of the electorate bothered to investigate the question and consider the realities beyond soundbites.
Another ticking bomb under the U.K......
Quite indeed. If it went off it would more likely push us away from Brexit. I’m not sure what to wish for.
Of course there is also a ticking bomb in the form of Italian sovereign debt - and should that one go off it would likely push us towards Brexit (in the court of public opinion).
Either of these could go before April 2019. Christ knows what might happen yet.
Mutter Merkel to the rescue again.
Payments through a transition has been the obvious compromise for months - solves the 2020 budget and time problem.
Our glorious leader is about to give her Brexit speech in Florence. Apparently she turned up in a Maserati.
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when you think this whole thing can't get any more insane?![/url]
[i]Prime Minister to raise possibility of UK leaving EU early[/i]
Seriously... WTF?!!! 😯
Chris Grayling is a ****.
Seriously... WTF?!!!
Maybe she is playing good cop, bad cop, you need us more than we need you, don't give us what we want and we will walk....
f***ing madness.
Shared history
Shared challenges
Shared future
😀
Necklace (tick)
She's a great orator, isn't she?
It feels like being told off by a particularly useless supply teacher
"You need our spooks and navy."
"We don't want a hard border in Ireland."
slowoldman - Member
Looks like a tough audience
apparently no one from the EU is there, nor the Italian PM, just the british press & entourage she flew out there
great example of what a huge waste of time & money brexit is!
"Trade AND [b]Security[/b]."
You can see what she thinks is her strong hand…
"No EEA, no FTA… something else."
Plenty of time to fill in the details later…
FTA ruled out now because it would take too long, apparantly (who knew?), so we need to be more "imaginative".
Blah blah blah.... cake.... Blah blah blah.... eat it
[b]SECURITY![/b]
Lots of difficulties and problems now being outlined. Nothing hinted at in terms of solutions yet… hold on, arbitration solution time…
She keeps bleating on about a deep and special relationship. That's what we currently have.
…ah, no, just a reminder that it can't include ECJ, no alternative arbitration solution suggested.
Right, back to SECURITY…
Shes lapsed into a BAE Systems promotional video
So much talking but without really saying anything 🙄
So, 2 year transition, and continuing to pay during that time. That's it. Nothing more. Will still upset some.
waffle...waffle...ambition....unprecedented....security........prosperous.....partnership.....strong leadership....smooth and orderly....implementation......move forward.........ahh **** it i can't be arsed to listen to this cretinous gobshite anymore, I'm away to play in the rain n" mud.
QUICKMEME.COM You've got to use your imagination.So much talking but without really saying anything
So we don't want the ECJ and accept the UK courts aren't enough.... So another set of courts and who are the judges going to be, and what happens when they declare her in contempt or rule against her?
The idea of a transition is so blinding obvious that it almost needn't be said.
ah Britains future is bright.... yes with a country split down the middle looks really good, with regions that have been ignored for decades. etc.
and as long as the EU do what they are told it will all be fine....
Here's what I want!
Make it so!
Best question from Sky! Cuts through the waffle.
No real answer.
So not a FTA, and no EEA, and no hint about which the new relationship should be closer to.
No movement.
No clarity.
No decision made on "our side" yet.
[Faisal Islam]
Can we demand that the Europeans give us a Brexit deal which stipulates that we don't ever have to see Theresa May or Boris Johnson ever again?