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Think there will be more or less Chinese stuff post Brexit TG?
who knows - what do you think ?
Its not the hardest question
tbh your opinion on china and others is commendable your side stepping the question much less so.
the thing is we really shouldn't be buying so much stuff from China with their human rights issues and the working conditions in a lot of their factories - if people had an principles. And we shouldn't be dealing with Saudi, etc.
I completely agree but it's getting harder.
My Turners that I love (and I assume you do too?) virtually all Asian now. The push for carbon made it nigh on impossible to manufacture in the US.
As for the Chinese question - I think there will be more stuff as it will become more expensive to buy from Europe. I'd wager a few quid on that.
More, as the terms of any trade deal will be much less favourable then we have/would have in the EU. We're ripe for the plucking.
We'll be bending over for all these guys and the govt will sign anything with "trade deal" written on the cover to preserve the red top bragging rights. What's inside will not me material.
Obvs, it was a rhetorical question
haha, it may be obvious to you and me, but we can't take anything for granted around here.
My Turners that I love (and I assume you do too?) virtually all Asian now. The push for carbon made it nigh on impossible to manufacture in the US.
Aren't they made in Taiwan though ? - don't think they have the same human rights record.
Its not the hardest questiontbh your opinion on china and others is commendable your side stepping the question much less so.
don't see why - there's no FTA between China and EU so, with the current arrangements, I can't see why it need be affected.
http://www.globalpolicyjournal.com/blog/09/02/2017/rebalancing-eu-china-relations-case-eu-china-fta
have you an opinion or are you just trying to score forum 'points', as usual ?
My opinion is still that it was a rhetorical question that you sidestepped for the reason matt highlighted.
My opinion is still that it was a rhetorical question that you sidestepped for the reason matt highlighted.
perhaps I am training to be a politician.
My opinion is still that it was a rhetorical question that you sidestepped for the reason matt highlighted.
that looks like a sidestep as well...
Haha STW chat forum thread becomes self-parody.
it's mostly the same beer as is available in more expensive pubs
I definitely challenge that assertion. Pop into Spoons in Macclesfield then pop over the road to Red Willow, visit the Water's Green Tavern, Park Tavern and other sundry beery outlets.
Wetherspoons was a nice idea and definitely helped progress real ale and small breweries. It doesn't seem to work that way now. it's cheap and downmarket. The choice is actually quite limited.
TurnerGuy - Memberthe thing is we really shouldn't be buying so much stuff from China with their human rights issues and the working conditions in a lot of their factories
It's getting better, certainly in the industry I used to be involved in (fireworks). Working conditions (and therefore cost) had improved so much that several people I knew of were looking at restarting manufacture in the UK.
Haha STW chat forum thread becomes self-parody.
It would have been more like a parody if we had had a referendum that offered 3 choices :
Hard Brexit
Soft Brexit
Remain
and then after the result of referendum was in and the biggest loser eliminated another referendum was run using the results from the previous referendum, but with voters given the chance to switch their vote.
Should voters switch their vote or not ?
Oh no - that's more like a paradox I think.
How can you sidestep a rhetorical question? 😆
Personally, their human rights is their problem as I am not concerned about how they treat their own people coz that's their business but this boil my piss ...
strange outlook...
Well given the result, TurnerG, was 16-17, the absolute softest of Brexits would actually have reflected that fabled beast "the will of the people".
But we're not getting that, we're getting a 99-1 Brexit.
That there is a huge problem and why people like me are so intransigent. We're treated like we stayed in bed that day and the "reasonable leave voter" as if they are hardcore Faragist.
(lol @sbob).
Imagine the result reversed, we wouldn't have suddenly joined Schengen and Euro ("hard remain"), and we'd have had a very serious conversation about how the concerns of the 48% could be addressed too. Anything else would be undemocratic.
But for the hardcore 10% on the real winning side, reasonableness doesn't exist.[s] Right is might[/s] Might is right and the Tory party needs them so they get their way.
Staggering.
TurnerGuy - Member
strange outlook...Personally, their human rights is their problem as I am not concerned about how they treat their own people coz that's their business but this boil my piss ...
Nothing strange coz all the animals never bothered me.
Animals are straggling to survive.
Human is overrated.
Human is overrated.
Every time I read your posts I think the same.
Leku - Member
Human is overrated.
Every time I read your posts I think the same.
I keep saying this coz it is true regardless of perspectives good or bad.
Reduce human population and peace will prevail.
Increase human population you will have a hell on earth.
"Practice what you preach" springs to mind. But that would be cruel.
[quote=sbob ]How can you sidestep a rhetorical question?
a very good point ....but you know what I mean
sbob » How can you sidestep a rhetorical question?
Oh another one. They're like buses.
mImagine the result reversed, we wouldn't have suddenly joined Schengen and Euro ("hard remain"),
True
and we'd have had a very serious conversation about how the concerns of the 48% could be addressed too.
Extremely unlikely - how could they be?
Anything else would be undemocratic.
How appropriate
But for the hardcore 10% on the real winning side, reasonableness doesn't exist. Right is might Might is right and the Tory party needs them so they get their way.
Tosh..
Staggering.
Quite
that was fun.
…or political reality.Tosh..
Polls* show that most Leave voters want out of the EU, but in EEA.
Also a very popular option with Remain voters, more popular than staying in the EU.
There is a wing of the Conservative party, and essential number of voters that agree with them, that would never except that.
They must be appeased by whoever wants to lead the party.
[i]*pinch of salt time[/i]
igm - MemberOh another one. They're like buses.
Rhetorical questions now come with free wifi? 😯
You forget Dave and George would still be all powerful
Dave promised the referendum to appease that wing of his party… no one can do that dance any more.
he did it because he wanted to win the votes of the fruitcakes and closet racists and he expected the Lib Dems to be there to stop him bring able to do it.
I am sure he regrets it now.
Sbob - I missed a 😉
I was just showing off about our buses. Leather seats and air-con too.
Extremely unlikely - how could they be?
Pretty obviously, by introducing controls on immigration.
thecaptain - MemberPretty obviously, by introducing controls on immigration.
Don't we already have controls on immigration?
Is there an echo in here?
Reduce human population and peace will prevail.
I would be fine with removing anyone happy to drink soup made from the fins of sharks...
Indeed the Tories had already promised that crap and failed to deliver
Kelvin. Responding to your edit. If anything has happened since the vote, it's a softening of our approach. So "tosh"
sbob, we have the power to implement much stronger controls over EU immigration but successive govts have chosen not to (up to now). Of course we have the power to do whatever we want about non-EU immigration.
Wetherspoons business is smart as it allows poor people to get pissed more often in what appears to be a socially acceptable environment. But like Greggs that other bastion of poor folks income removal they only serve an internal market- they have zero value add to the UK economy other than employing lots of poor people. Not saying I don't like Wetherspoons or Greggs but you have to keep it in perspective.
The following may not be well received- I do think that a lot of 65 to 85 year old blokes in this country have been hankering after a war that they were to young to participate in. Brexit delivers this.... sad but probably true.
t they have zero value add to the UK economy other than employing lots of poor people
The 13% increase in share price today suggests otherwise
Untrue and therefure sad - more like
I do think that a lot of 65 to 85 year old blokes in this country have been hankering after a war that they were to young to participate in.
Well speaking as one whose dad did fight in that war and having heard the tales, I'm staggered that anyone who didn't have to participate would be hankering after it. Peace and co-operation beat conflict.
thecaptain - Membersbob, we have the power to implement much stronger controls over EU immigration but successive govts have chosen not to (up to now). Of course we have the power to do whatever we want about non-EU immigration.
Yes, this was covered 850 pages ago.
Still not sure why anyone would want to stop central European hotties from coming over though... 🙁
The 13% increase in share price today suggests otherwise
You can't tell from that. If all they did was move cheap drinking from the Off licence to their pub, their share price could go up without a net contribution to the UK economy.
Of course that doesn't preclude the possibility that they have made a net contribution either.
But you know that THM - you're far better informed on financial matters than me.
slowoldman - MemberWell speaking as one whose dad did fight in that war and having heard the tales, I'm staggered that anyone who didn't have to participate would be hankering after it. Peace and co-operation beat conflict.
Absolutely this.
Plus another 1. Grandad, conscientious objector and couple of days after D-Day medical orderly though.
This is interesting if he means it. Big promise.
Sky News has learnt that David Davis told a gathering of bosses at Chevening House that the UK would enjoy a comprehensive free trade agreement with the European Union after Brexit.