It's beginning to feel a bit:
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Hmmm... what was the tune from that film again?
Self preservation society?
Some of that coming I think. Bad luck if you're in a situation where "look after yourself and devil take the hind most" is a problem for you.
Free movement as part of a transition deal set to stay for another 3-5 years according to the papers.
That won't please the 'I'm not racist but..' types
Doublespeak coming from the brexiter MP on r4 this morning was matched only by her repeated use of hollow slogans
and the banks are going as predicted
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/21/brexit-banking-exodus-theresa-may-morgan-stanley
The Conservative party is reliant upon those in the business community for funding, can you imagine what the atmosphere at a Conservative party fundraiser must be like right now?
There are some dissenting voices e.g. James Dyson, the bloke with the big head and tiny face who owns Wetherspoons and some fascist who owns an insurance company, but the wider business and finance community are highly critical of a hard brexit, which is looking increasingly lightly judging by David Davis' conduct at negotiations.
So there was 9 months delay in triggering article 50, 2 years negotiation, then 5 years transition.
That's nearly 8 more years of freedom of movement that most Brexiteers so desperately wanted to halt.
I struggle to see how anyone, remain or leave, can be happy with the outcome of this referendum.
By that time, most of the people who voted leave will have died.
Will transition be 5?
would be hard sell after Mays 'No Deal' fantasy for the deluded
lower value of £ and slower growth means that we will be a less attractive place to come to (and more people will want to leave) anyway, so numbers will probably go down.
No deal is still possible, only because the Tory posturing has backed them into a corner
The tories are terrified of Corbyn getting in and surely no deal would destroy their credibility as the party of financial sense
So the government are looking to publish their strategy for what is going to happen post Brexit for aviation pretty much at the same time as it needs to happen... So probably 12 months after the airlines will have implemented their own strategies to ensure they have business continuity.. Lucky we are ahead of the game 😕 😥
At what point does a shambles officially become a fiasco?
Or is it the other way around?
I'm just brushing up on my terminology in readiness.
What they fail to say in that article, Kimbers, is that people who currently fly via the UK to other European destinations will need a passport raéther than just an ID card. That means there will be more demand on routes through European hubs rather than the UK.
That means there will be more demand on routes through European hubs rather than the UK.
Think that will go down with the residents near Heathrow, no demand so no point building a new runway.
[url= https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/bank-of-america-confirms-dublin-as-location-for-its-eu-hub-1.3162670 ]https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/bank-of-america-confirms-dublin-as-location-for-its-eu-hub-1.3162670[/url]
The trickle keeps on flowing, getting faster and faster.
We're only really seeing financial and airlines so far.
But that's because it's easy for them to move.
Bricks and mortar businesses will probably follow given time.
Bricks and mortar businesses will probably follow given time.
The next ones to watch IMO will be manufacturers. It is very easy to relocate a production line, but it only really makes sense when you come to a break point. i.e. launch a new model.
Where are the bexshitters now? all those doom and gloom predictions are coming true
Agreed mrmo
On the first 20 pages, TJ. Very few have posted anything on the thread since posting "out" and an increasing number no longer post on STW at all. I know there's a turnover on any forum but some notables have gone.
The issue that dividied STW to the point those on wrong side felt uncompfortable and left?
Nah reckon there will be a wave of tax breaks for business, to try and keep em, not that our deficit can afford to loose more revenue...
Airbus tho, I could we'll see them leaving, BAE already missed out on the new eurofighter.
As said just investment in new mdels that will suffer so it'll be drip, drip rather than a flood of mfrs departing.
Even give admitting will keep FOM for transition , assuming we get a deal !
Warning new slogan alert
Green Brexit
to go with the 'red white and blue one' maybe.
I think the farmers are about to be stitched up,under the guise of brexit being good for environment.
[quote=Edukator ]The issue that dividied STW to the point those on wrong side felt uncompfortable and left?
STWexit
I think the farmers are about to be stitched up,under the guise of brexit being good for environment.
No way. If my willing to bet that not one green thing happens due to brexshit.
I don't post on here any more (qned) as I was so pissed off with chewkw and his crap (and posted a few things to that effect).
Got a warning or two and decided that enough was enough.
Woppit could get away with being offensive but I couldn't.
Don't think I was a 'big hitter'!
Progress - some of the nutters are now realising that a transition period is inevitable
Small steps...
Too bloody little, too bloody late.
The sane thing to do is to jump off a cliff.
Oh, wait...
'tis funny chewy don't annoy me - its such utter drivel and clearly not meant seriously. Its the unpleasant right wing trolls that get to me but the blacklist add on is your friend
Don't think there was a blacklist thing when I left...
Doesn't really matter anyway. Spouting drivel to wind people up about something which is going to ruin a lot of lives is a stupidly shite thing to do.
I was wondering if CFH was still around, but perhaps he's gone too.
cfh is still around. the blocking thing is not an stw approved thingy - somone on here wrote it.
Progress - some of the nutters are now realising that a transition period is inevitable
Cabinet all backing this approach… they claim… for now.
Good news. Reality starts soon I hope.
You heard it here first kelvin 😉
(much better than wallowing in the darkness)
wonder what this says about the people who chose the pieces?
much better than wallowing in the darkness
Nah I'm still here
I think having young kids really makes it hard to let go,
Ain't just the young kids who will suffer. It's all of us.
I can't see a decent future for anyone except the very rich.
The issue that dividied STW to the point those on wrong side felt uncompfortable and left?
Not really, they won, who would want to hang out on a thread with a bunch of losers. This thread is just like the guys wandering along Oxford St with placards saying the "the end is nigh".
tjagain - MemberWhere are the brexshitters now?
Swear at them a bit more, they might show up! 😀
Its the unpleasant right wing trolls that get to me
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Top quality.
mefty / sbob
All the predictions that we remainers said would come true and the leavers said were nonsense - guess what - its all coming true.
So where is the evidence of " they need us more than we need them" ?
I doubt any will be able to provide serious/reasoned answers. They know there is no plan and very little to be optimistic about as the EU keeps the pressure on.
mefty, what have you "won", that really is he question.
No one wants to admit they were wrong
See also Cranberry repeatedly bragging about how he became a labour member so he could vote for Corbyn as it would destroy their chances at an election...... Doesn't post on the Corbyn thread any more...
As we are all 250quid out of pocket thanks to referendum induced inflation and jobs are starting to leave the city, growth has slowed, investment is down, wages squeezed, Leavers just have their 'sovereignity' bobbins to cling to.
Well we can keep avoiding the truth if we want to, but that doesn't take away the fact that much of what remainers/our side said has not proven true - the more catastrophic predictions (including those made by forumites who either didn't understanding the predictions or were deliberately misusing them to bully those who had differening views) have simply not happened. The economy proved surprisingly resilient in the immediate aftermath and has followed much of the same predictable trends that one would expect at this point in a mature economiccycle. The surprise has been the strength of the consumer. The one downside that I predicted at the time ie, that fall in £ would lead to inflation and pressure on real wages has been correct and has been a negative, true. So at best we have a mixed bag on the economy and £ aside nothing out-of-the-ordinary.
On Brexshit itself, the EU despite, I would imagine beng exasperated by our approach, have been remarkably conciliatory and have shown a willingness to (1) seek compromise and (2) tackle some of the obvious failings of the € zone. Chapeau and bonchance Macron! You have a very big job ahead - not least some proper austerity and labour reforms in France!!!
On top of that, as noted above, even the nutters on our side are now moving towards the obvious conclusion of a length transition period.
So the remoaners and antii-democrats should have a long, sober look in the mirror. Lying to bully/supress those with differing views is very unattractive. We lost, get over it, move on and deal what is in front of us, not what we would like to see in front of us. Brexshit is going to happen...albeit in (hopefully) a much watered down and delayed fashion.
Mefty - well said, sir!
Well I'm just enjoying Brexit disintegrating.
I'm all right so it's fun to watch.
Money on the Brexies screaming loudest.
It was never going to happen along the lines that either side set out at the start since both sides' positions were inconsistent with reality/truth. That was obvious. We are going through the noisy first stages now where this simply becomes accepted and people move on to the real issues and where and how to compromise and seek agreement.
Steady as she goes..... 😉
Glad £ been stronger against the $ meanwhile, must buy some $ above 1.30
Jeez, what a load of bollocks thm. Your predictions on the Scottish Indie thread haven't come true either 😉
Talking about predictions not coming true, they are but a mere trifle compared to the brexshit, ahem, predictions. £350 million a week for the NHS, taking back control and controlling immigration.
Let he who is without sin and all that...
Meanwhile on the great nation state Titanic let's all get the deckchairs out and listen to a rousing Britannia Rules The Waves while we glide presently to the bottom...
PS THM can you turn back on your autocorrect, your spelling is being to make you look like yer old mucker Jamby...
Anybody got a fiddle?
