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So jambalaya still wont admit that WTO tariffs come in the form of a tax or consumption... So surprised
Happy 65th Malcolmhttps://mobile.twitter.com/DMcCaffreySKY/status/859704369188614144/video/1
Well that certainly puts the Brexit mob in a good light. Who can fail to be swayed by the force of that amount of [s]spittle [/s]reasoning......
mrmo - Member@Chewk, the Indians asked for more student visa's in return for a deal, May said no. Infact the EU negotiations have long been stalled because the UK wouldn't budge on that.
Yup. A weird negotiation in which the other party offered us something we'd benefit from in return for something we wanted and we said no to both. But of course it's the EU stopping us having good trade relationships overseas, right? Theresa May as home secretary soured the India/UK relationship at every opportunity...
"May accuses unidentified figures in Brussels of meddling in election"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/may/03/general-election-2017-official-campaign-begins-politics-live?page=with:block-5909ebe7e4b0336cfae757a0#block-5909ebe7e4b0336cfae757a0
Lost it totally.
Good lord what a fruitloop.
"She will take action against the people who seek to divide us."
and wtf does that mean?
Lost it totally.
Unfortunately she'll take a lot of people with her.
This is going to get ugly.
More doom-mongering from the lefties in the ... err ... oil industry
She will -
1. Blame EU for failure of deal
2. Claim that she is responsible for a good deal
3. blame Boris and co.
4. blame Labour and the lib dems.
She will make sure the buck makes a sharp u-turn once it hits her desk and goes on to someone else.
But of course it's the EU stopping us having good trade relationships overseas, right?
Don't worry, we'll soon have a free trade deal with the Philippines. Duterte - "strong and stable". Well, strong, in a sense. Stable, less certain.
"She will take action against the people who seek to divide us."and wtf does that mean?
Go back a couple of pages to the article in the FT which was posted on here (Monday I think) by Gideon Rachman, titled, "Brexit and the slide into nationalism"...
He essentially said she would do exactly this as and when she found herself under pressure. I don't imagine he thought it would come on this fast...
First we had Amber Rudd and her lists of companies and the % of foreign workers they employed, then we had Michael Howard talking about war with Spain and now we have nationalist sentiment like this.
I don't think it's overdoing it to be getting worried about the tone of the current government - I've lived with Tory governments all my life, growing up in Thatcher years but I've never heard sentiment like it come from a UK government...
Even if this is just rhetoric to appeal to the party base, this is very dangerous stuff to be playing with - it can get out of hand very easily - well it already has with the referendum campaign and result...
But some in Brussels do not want the UK the talks to succeed.That is why the UK needs strong and stable leadership.
Strong and nonsequitory leadership.
Its a strategy to get the brexit voters to vote for her - nothing else.
They are typically swing voters.
Its all part of the opportunistic election plan.
Hook line and sinker
"She will take action against the people who seek to divide us."and wtf does that mean?
Dunno - check with Erdogan.
Jesus wept, now Mummy is accusing Brussels of interfering in the election. One day she's talking about coming together, the next she's suggesting half the country is full of "extremists".
Losing control
Honestly don't think she's much better than Corbyn. Just better minders and talks tough.
Coming soon to a very small village hall near you!! Maybot will "travel to all corners" hahaha
She'll be bleating #fakenews next.
This is painful to watch unfurl. 🙁
Direct link to video of May quote "acts deliberately timed to affect the result of the GE".
Seriously woman, get a grip.
This madness is going to afflict this country for decades. It is now getting scary really quickly.
In before, "May was word perfect".
#strong & stable 😆 or perhaps 🙄
Maybot will "travel to all corners" hahaha
I am sure she will. As will a busload of supporters to keep her company. Perhaps this time they will manage the expenses better though and dodge those awkward investigations.
Given her latest rants will they be swapping "strong and stable leadership" for "vote May get the daily mail"
May is a f***ing idiot, after years of listening to Farages insults and now May. How many days till the "negotiations" breakdown?
If this isn't the (not-so-)slow creep into one party state fascism it's doing a bloody good impression of it. 😐
How many days till the "negotiations" breakdown?
Not many, as I suspect the EU side have now given up on trying to get any sense out of May.
I'm feeling for my various friends of EU origin at the moment. They're all decent people who came here in good faith several years ago, and make a good contribution to this country. They shouldn't be having to put up with this sh**e.
B***** me - it is the FT piece!
Mrs May said she wanted to reach a Brexit deal, and for the EU to succeed: "But the events of the last few days have shown that - whatever our wishes, and however reasonable the positions of Europe's other leaders - there are some in Brussels who do not want these talks to succeed."The PM also warned of "serious" consequences if the Brexit talks failed, which would be felt by "ordinary, working people across the country".
"If we don't get the negotiation right, your economic security and prosperity will be put at risk and the opportunities you seek for your families will simply not happen.
"If we do not stand up and get this negotiation right we risk the secure and well-paid jobs we want for our children and our children's children too.
"If we don't get the negotiation right, if we let the bureaucrats of Brussels run over us, we will lose the chance to build a fairer society with real opportunity for all."
I cannot recall any impediment created by the EU to the creation of a fairer society ...quite the opposite in fact.
This is insane, what did she ****ing well think would happen when she call the election... Foolish women.
I may have many doubts about Corbyn, but i hope to god the polls prove wrong and he wins. Or at the very least the Tories do not get the majority the polls suggest.
May chose the timing of triggering A50, and therefore the timing of exit talks.
May chose the timing of the General Election, and therefore the election campaign.
If these two things conflict, only one person to blame.
But, of course, blaming the EU chimes well with the memes in the foreign owned sections of the press.
May chose the timing of triggering A50, and therefore the timing of exit talks.
May chose the timing of the General Election, and therefore the election campaign.
God made her do it.
God made her do it.
Nah. God said "love thy neighbour".
She is making Corbyn look appealing at the moment - which is quite a talent.
word. a labour vote would be pointless where I live but after today's events I am reassessing him all the same.
If this isn't the (not-so-)slow creep into one party state fascism it's doing a bloody good impression of it.
Sadly for those that would rather not have a Tory Government this is working out exactly as many of us said it would under Corbyn. Brexit is going to be May's Falklands moment and Corbyn dragging the Labour Party left will allow May to own the middle ground, I expect the Manifesto is going to drive that home.
Today has been a very very good day for the Tories and for Brexit. It's hard to believe Junker / his henchman was so naive to sponsor this story in the FAZ, it was so obviously going to play straight into May's hands. Today feels almost as good as June 24th
Onwards and upwards.
#jambafacts 😆
Is that why the Tories have dropped 10 points in the polls since calling an election?
Indeed jamba, today has been a very good day for Brexit. 😆
#jambafact
I now realise, the more you're feeling negative, the more you post delusional stuff to the opposite on threads. So, yeah, keep saying it - just reinforces how we know you're really feeling.
To be fair to her, she's losing control far more quickly than I thought she would. Well, if she does go calling a power-grab general election at the beginning of the most important negotiations the country has ever faced...it's not quite working out for her. An utter campaign frit. An embarrassment at dinner.
If anyone has a direct line to Europe, can they let them know there are plenty of sane people left in the asylum, no matter how it looks at the moment. They'll be the ones left trying to patch the toy that the toddlers broke back together.
You probably should have listened to Varoufakis' interview on radio today. You might revel in lambasting Junker as the Brexiteers' chief bête noir, but as far as Barnier et al are concerned, that's just fine, as he's pretty irrelevant - imagine, having an irrelevance make Mummy and Davies look so foolish.
I don't see Junker et al bothering to influence the UK GE. Why should they? Why would they expect it to work, when they know the Torypress will spin it anyway?
I suspect they're beyond caring.
The leak would be for domestic consumption, to warn the various parties they are dealing with a fruitcake and not to anticipate a happy outcome.
I know, I'll have an election. It'll impress lots of people.
Who have also won elections.
Your world view leaves you spectacularly happy however I am less sure its based on a firm and sound analysis of the events - no matter what actually happens you think its great, plays in to tory hands and will be as glorious as the Falklands the facts are merely there to say the narrative and dont really matter.
The reality is Brexit is going to be remembered by historians as more Suez than the falklands
The Suez crisis? British hubris, an elevated sense of one's position in the world order? Going horribly wrong?
Nah...get outta here.
Now if we had LePen getting France to follow us...
Oh...
The reality is Brexit is going to be remembered by historians as more Suez than the falklands
Suez was of course a great military success for the UK, France and Israel. It was only the Americans deciding to pull the plug on us that turned it into a disaster.
EDIT: It's just as well that in Donald Trump we have someone totally trustworthy and dependable. He'll see us right.
'Box of frogs' May now claiming Junker is trying to interfere with the election
The daily mail will be frottaging itself silly with excitement tomorrow.
It is exactly as that ft article predicted!
