killed by Latvian Arnis Zalkalns, who was let into the UK despite being a convicted murderer.
and what is going to happen to the EAW when we leave then? Back to the days of costa del crime? How long will it take to renegotiate all those treaties that are currently encompassed by being in the EU?
[url= http://www.ouest-france.fr/europe/ue/brexit-les-etudiants-europeens-boudent-les-universites-britanniques-4585623 ]Demand for university places by EU students drops[/url] 9%
Madame has agreed with her head that future linguistic trips will be to Dublin or Amsterdam rather than London/Brighton.
Except that it seems that the CONTROL
You forget that there won't actually be any control, we will negotiate treaties like TTIP, except as the UK is a FAR weaker party the US will write the agreement and the UK will be shafted.
@Edukator freedom of choice, if they want to pass up a 15% reduction in fees/accomodation and food they are welcome to.
Andy - they probably don't like the 41% increase in racism it comes with.
Junior has a grant to go to university in France which more than covers his fees and goes some way to paying his living expenses. He'd have to pay full fees in the UK and wouldn't get a grant. A 15% reduction (the decline in the pound I assume) isn't going to influence choice much when it's a 15% reduction for something that is already at least 14 000e more expensive.
What does influence choice is not knowing what will happen to students in the system during the Brexit and whether their qualifications will have equivalence after.
Andy - they probably don't like the 41% increase in racism it comes with.
They are coming from France where Front Nationale are the most popular party (edit no critism of individuals here just a comment about the country vs the UK)
Edukator no I can get that, free versus not free. Students will be able to stay and finish their degree, not a shadow of doubt about that based on everything said. Here we don't even kick out students who stay on after their degree when their visa has expired.
Every opinion poll I've seen puts Alain Juppé at over 50% and Marine Le Pen around 25%
[url= http://election-presidentielle.linternaute.com/ ]Juppé most popular presidential candiate.[/url]
If the FN was the most popular party in France, they would have won the last elections ( Head of Regions) .
They did NOT get 1 person elected. By now you should know that French vote for contestation at the first round of any elections.
FN had the largest vote then got eliminated by tactical voting during the run-off
Jupe may win the UMP nomination but it's not clear at all is it ? Seems to be a body of opinion that says Sarko vs LePenn is a Sarko win but Jupe v LePenn goes to LePenn
France where Front Nationale are the most popular party
#jambafact
Junior could go to a top 50 university in the UK, something he can't do in France.
I think you should link something to support your "body of opinion" assertion, Jamba, I suspect the body is your own.
I've just seen the new Europe ecology de Verts candidate. He'll probably get my vote in the first round (my "contestation" Chris 😉 ). After that it's le/la moins pire.
Seems to be a body of opinion that says Sarko vs LePenn is a Sarko win but Jupe v LePenn goes to LePenn
Could you give me a link to a single opinion poll which puts Le Pen ahead of either of those in a straight fight (ie polling for potential second round). Because I can't find a single one - Juppé would get a landslide if put up against her.
Sciences Po is ranked 4th in Politics and International Studies by QS 2016 World University Rankings
Not many universities in the World better for what he wants to do, if any.
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1 Harvard
2 Oxford
3 LSE
4 Sciences Po
5 Cambridge
Seems like Sciences Po is in pretty good company. He's specializing in German/French politics, I'd argue Sciences Po is the best place in the world for that given he'll be at French and German universities.
Yay thank **** its almost over I'm voting Trump
simple question, if the leave campaign is found guilty of lying what does this do to the result of the referendum???
double post, f***ing cats!
simple question, if the leave campaign is found guilty of lying what does this do to the result of the referendum???
The leave voters believe that it's real, so no change. They keep banging on about it and they'e done all the research to check. Ain't going to happen.
But it might.
it doesn't change it but people could be prosecuted .
simple question, if the leave campaign is found guilty of lying what does this do to the result of the referendum???
Found guilty by who? They are not on trial and are/were not a single political party or group.
This is politics; all parties are presumed lying until proven to be truthful. In over 300 years of parliament this has happened once. There was a re-trial.
Not in ScotlandEdukator - Reformed Troll
Junior has a grant to go to university in France which more than covers his fees and goes some way to paying his living expenses. He'd have to pay full fees in the UK
[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-leave-campaign-lies-cps-investigation-misleading-voters-a7403036.html ]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-leave-campaign-lies-cps-investigation-misleading-voters-a7403036.html[/url]
Agreed it might come to nothing, just wondering, everyone is aware that the £350M claim was a tad optimistic.
So it might be seen to have had an impact on how some people chose to vote.
And if the claim is found to have been fake where does this leave the referendum???
Michael Ryan ... strange bloke horrible airline, artcile in the Independent
Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary said coninuing uncertainty over Brexit negotiations would cause the airline's fares to fall by up to 15 per cent this winter.The cost of the budget airline's average seat has already fallen 10 per cent to £44.61 in the past year.
But the chief executive warned there will be a reduction in the number of UK flights once the UK actually leaves the EU, leading to price rises.
Thanks for reminding me, Scotroutes. I think we need a new name for NI, Wales and England without Scotland; I repeatedly forget the Scots have hung onto some of the post-WWII social advances. How about "Divided Wengni"
Seems like Sciences Po is in pretty good company. He's specializing in German/French politics, I'd argue Sciences Po is the best place in the world for that given he'll be at French and German universities.
Yes agreed. Being a cynic Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge, LSE more people outside the specialisation will have heard of ... depends what he wants to do with it really longer term and flexibility for taking a different direction. Sciemce Po plus a postgrad at one of those for the ultimate combo
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plus ça change
http://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/collections/posters/politicalandtariffreform
good piece here
little britain, here we come...
http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/11/07/india-shows-the-ultimate-failure-of-the-brexit-project
@aracer a real poll, ie the last regional elections first round vote puts FN as having yhe highest popular vote. IMO you will see exactly the same in April, FN will have the largest vote in the first round and UMP second, Socialists eliminated.
These theoretical Jupe bs LePenn polls now are worthless IMO. @Edukator speaking to various people in France actively involved in politics. Jupe is more popular with PS voters than Sarkozy but fear is many UMP voters don't like him and if FN have a big enough base these UMP voters could push FN to the win.
Anyway my point was about those leaving the UK or chosing not to come here on fhe basis of Brexit / racism etc when you have EU countries like France and Austria with the very real possibility of Nationalist Governments / Presidents.
good piece here
little britain, here we come...
http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/11/07/india-shows-the-ultimate-failure-of-the-brexit-project
Interesting article that. I'm guessing he's one of those experts we were warned about? 😯
Yes I think he might be, he certainly didn't get the briefing notes did he
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Time for some Tucker 😉
Yes the loss of the European Medicines Agency hasnt really been tlkedabout- didnt realise India were so big on investment in pharma though
friends at GSK are quite worried, but hats reflected all accross UK life sciences at the moment
EMA move will be a big blow to all pharma companies here,
the next round of funding applications beyond horizon 2020 are being called for now, sadly Britain wont be included in the worlds biggest research network anymore
Anyway my point was about those leaving the UK or chosing not to come here on fhe basis of Brexit / racism etc when you have EU countries like France and Austria with the very real possibility of Nationalist Governments / Presidents.
But I thought it was Ireland or the Netherlands they were choosing to go to, not France or Austria. Now there are racists both those places I am sure, but I'm pretty certain Dublin is better than the UK at present, Amsterdam I dunno, not an expert, I hear things but then again...
@kimbers how on earth can the writer talk about the failire of the Brexit project when it's hardly begun
@igm fair point, Holland is an interesting one with the emergence of Wilders, at least they had the sense to legislate that all future treaties where subject to a Referendum (a major reason as to why EU is now so reluctant to consider any treaty changes) after the uproar over Lisbon. Dublin yes a good place to be a student, not so sure about a place to work.
It's quite telling that a movie about the 2008 crash nailed the current climate perfectly
they will be blaming immigrants and poor people
@kimbers how on earth can the writer talk about the failire of the Brexit project when it's hardly begun
Simple, the demands that are being placed on us during the India visit and the prospects are worse than Pre Brexit. Even with such a small start the ripples are being felt and it's meaning India have a much stronger negotiating position, when they start, which is a long long long way away. So basically written off any big JV work of the UK as a gateway hence needing to give away freebies like more visas to high net worth individuals. (you know controlling that immigrations stuff)
Some people seem happy to talk about the success of the brexit project before it's started...
The biggest group of electors in France was recently cited by Juppé as being the centre. The problem in pretty much all the democratic world is that centre parties and candidates rarely if ever succeed. The candidate elections within the parties eliminate the moderates. Corbyn is a classic example, a party leader who represents the extreme views of committed party members rather than the left wing electorate in general.
Trump, Clinton, May, Corbyn, Sarko are not people many electors would choose as their leaders, people find themselves voting for them against their better judgement to stop an alternative they see as worse. The only candidates I have ever voted for out of conviction haven't had a hope in hell of winning, Bayrou, Danny... .
I've had more socialists encouraging me to vote in the UMP elections than UMP members. The problem is that there isn't one UMP candidate with a programme I'd give my name to - and I consider my views centre right, caring capitalism. I therefore believe in a progressive tax system, and equality in health and education. Being poor shouldn't be viewed as a crime and poverty shouldn't be a trap.
jambalaya - Member
@kimbers how on earth can the writer talk about the failire of the Brexit project when it's hardly begun
Says the man forever telling us the 'data' is good for a post Brexit UK economy! If it's too early to talk about the failure, it's also too early to talk about signs of success, as you have continually since June!
Project reality (even if you don't like it)
Oh come on I'm sure Enola can visit the next 2 biggest commonwealth countries and secure some fantastic victories.
****stan and Nigeria our doors are open to you.
I'd like to remind Outters that the **** Of The Year competition ends today and normal service can resume tomorrow .
Have we done the Brexit Toblerone yet:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37904703
Surely even the most hardened Brexitter must be aghast at this monstrosity! 😆
