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Being a Brexiter must be like having Status Quo tattoo. It was a good idea at the time but no matter how shit they are you still have to buy their records.


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:27 am
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[quote=jambalaya ]

we will be encouraged to spend more on UK products and less on imports is good for our economy.

And here in lies the crux of the problem. We will be "encouraged" to spend more on UK products. I just did a quick scan of my desk and surroundings

My Camelbak water bottle is made in China
My tablet is made in Taiwan
My mobile phone is made in Korea
My computer monitor is made in China
My desk phone is made in China
My LCD TV is made in Taiwan
My watch is made in Taiwan

What fantasy world do you live in where we're suddenly about to make all those things in the UK?

The general public want to earn more money and pay even less for the bits of tat they use to fill the empty voids in their life.

I can go onto the Argos site right now and buy a 49" LCD TV for £500. It's been made in the far east and shipped here. How much do you reckon that TV would cost if it was made in the UK?

Grow up and wake up. When the masses realise how much they've been conned, and how expensive life is going to get for them, it'll be far too late and those that led us down this road will be laughing at them in their Chelsea and Mayfair homes.


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:29 am
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whatever Brexit looks like we must have control of our boarders,

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Posted : 14/10/2016 11:31 am
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but the emotional health of the majority that voted for Brexit will be much better without EU. They have had this pressure on them for a long time.

😯

WTF are you talking about? What pressure? Being part of the most successful and richest economic bloc in the world? Living in peace for 70 years with people who were once sworn enemies? Being able to work, travel, live in some of the most beautiful countries on the planet? Exposure to other cultures, languages etc? Must have beein f***** terrible for them! Still, as long as we can have bendy bananas and call a pork sausage a pork sausage eh!


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:31 am
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the emotional health of the majority that voted for Brexit will be much better without EU.

Bullshit.

They'll keep blaming immigrants and feeling like they have no control over their country.

None of that 'feeling' or, the damaging effects if it, will dissipate in 29 months time.

Why would it?


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:32 am
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Being a Brexiter must be like having Status Quo tattoo. It was a good idea at the time but no matter how shit they are you still have to buy their records.

Actually it is more like Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up. Check the lyrics coz it is very appropriate.

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the emotional health of the majority that voted for Brexit will be much better without EU.

Bullshit.

They'll keep blaming immigrants and feeling like they have no control over their country.

That has been the norm for a long time so we shall have to wait and see.

None of that 'feeling' or, the damaging effects if it, will dissipate in 29 months time.

Why would it?

If you keep hanging on the "damaging effect" then even 50 years will make no different to how you feel. Let it go.


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:32 am
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What's it like, being you?


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:35 am
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450,000 claim in-work benefits, this represnts 1 in 8 of EU Nationals - I would wager this is a much higher percentage than German Nationals

Does that include Kindergeld? Mutterschaftgeld? Elterngeld? Or just means tested benefits?

You would "wager"?
Of course you would, as you believe, despite all evidence, that immigration isn't important/vital to all levels of an economy, just the lower paid parts.
Even if you win your wager, we need to know if those benefits are linked to them being more likely to have children, and the effects this has on Germany's pension time bomb.

Very clear EU Nationals are more likely to be in lower paid jobs and having to be subsidised by the Government.

Very clear? How did you arrive at that conclusion? Are you sure this is not just bullshit?


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:42 am
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And after the Brexiters realise that the EU was not responsible for all their trouble, who are they going to target next? Gay, disabled, black, Asian???
Very dangerous path.


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:46 am
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Bullshit.
They'll keep blaming immigrants and feeling like they have no control over their country.

Exactly. They'll still feel left behind as the world homgenisises and changes on without them as they cling to their little englander fantasies


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:48 am
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My wife asked me does anyone actually remember what the UK was like before we joined the EU (or Common Market as it was then).

All I remember about joining in 1973 was drawing flags of the various nations to hang up in the classroom, but I reckon that the only folk who were working (for a period) before 1973 have probably all retired now...

Quite a decent write up.

http://uk.blastingnews.com/politics/2016/02/why-the-uk-joined-the-eu-in-the-first-place-00785599.html


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:51 am
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My wife asked me does anyone actually remember what the UK was like before we joined the EU (or Common Market as it was then).

I remember Vesta Chinese meals, and I remember my mum bringing home yoghurt for the first time. Looks like my old age will resemble my childhood in more ways than the obvious.


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:55 am
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If Sturgeon pulls off a reverse Denmark (and I'm not saying she will, but it looks like she's still trying), can we expect to see massive numbers of southern Britons (Welsh, English, whatever) suddenly discovering Scots roots?


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:55 am
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If Sturgeon pulls off a reverse Denmark (and I'm not saying she will, but it looks like she's still trying), can we expect to see massive numbers of southern Britons (Welsh, English, whatever) suddenly discovering Scots roots

yay! my mums from Newton Mearns !


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 11:57 am
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Posh boy


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:00 pm
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I got married in Comlongon Castle does that make me Scottish?


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:14 pm
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Are you any good at football?


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:15 pm
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Are you any good at football?

Yes. Does that rule me out of claiming Scottish nationality?


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:17 pm
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Largest Scottish city in the UK by population is London and their pro-Europe to so should they be invited to join the progressive British EU teritories? (Needs a new name - even I couldn't live with that. Does accurately reflect the sentiments though.)


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:25 pm
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Largest Scottish city in the UK by population is London

Eh? What you smoking?


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:32 pm
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I assume it means town with the most scottish people in as scottish city will need to be in Scotland

Is London not also Frances third largest city or some such ?


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:34 pm
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You think there are more Scots living in London than in Glasgow? 😐


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:36 pm
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More people claiming to be Scots, live in London than any other UK city. To be fair there's only 90k actually born in Scotland (which still gets it 5th place) but if you include Scots parentage etc it rises quickly. That said there'll be some dubious claims that would never get a passport (if they ever come into being)

20 million Americans claim to be Scots including the "Clan Schultz" at the Granfather Mountain highland gathering one year.


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:37 pm
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Bad form there DrJ, stealing my punchline 🙁

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the progressive British EU teritories? (Needs a new name - even I couldn't live with that.

Call it Yakult- because it's ProBEUTic


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:37 pm
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Talking sterling down
I'm disappointed that May, Fox, Davies, Johnson et al. are so bad at talking sterling up.

They need to do a Tescos and stand up for themselves.


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:44 pm
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Like it Northwind. Now can you say it in a Govan accent.


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:48 pm
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[quote=igm ]More people claiming to be Scots, live in London than any other UK city.Source? (ah - you edited it).

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/mro/news-release/census-2-1----london/census-gives-insights-into-characteristics-of-london-s-population.html

2011 census data says 90,000 Scots living in London. Even allowing for the number of English (and other nationalities) living in Scottish cities, quite a few of them have more than 90,000 residents. And only [b]9th[/b] most populous nationality, behind India, Poland, Ireland, Nigeria, ****stan, Bangladesh and "South America".


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 12:54 pm
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Only 4 cities over 90k in Scotland Scotroutes

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_and_cities_in_Scotland_by_population


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:00 pm
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I'm disappointed that May, Fox, Davies, Johnson et al. are so bad at talking sterling up.

Just reading the Guardian financial pages, and they summed up the problem facing the pound and the UK economy generally.

Its in so much trouble because as triggering article 50 looms large, the word from everyone dealing with them seems to be that May, Fox, Davies, Johnson et al haven't got a bloody clue what they're doing


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:04 pm
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Talking sterling down
I'm disappointed that May, Fox, Davies, Johnson et al. are so bad at talking sterling up.
They need to do a Tescos and stand up for themselves.

You forget, the financial establishment are remainers and are doing everything they can to fulfil the prophesies of project fear.

They also need inflation, stagflation has them scared shitless, nothing works the way it should, using 'Brexit' as an excuse for price inflation is a way out of the argument, whilst suggesting they are trying to help, when really help wasn't needed at the time they crashed the £.

Watch oil pricing recover, it's priced in US dollars, you watch your petrol pumps in the coming months..


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:15 pm
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You forget, the financial establishment are remainers and are doing everything they can to fulfil the prophesies of project fear.

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Posted : 14/10/2016 1:18 pm
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The Mrs is a Sweaty sock, so can i come too?


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:19 pm
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you watch your petrol pumps in the coming months.
What am I looking for? Them all to start flashing '666' heralding the arrival of the illuminati?


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:22 pm
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The Mrs is a Sweaty sock, so can i come too?

No xenophobes thanks.


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:28 pm
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I'm disappointed that May, Fox, Davies, Johnson et al. are so bad at talking sterling up.
Just reading the Guardian financial pages, and they summed up the problem facing the pound and the UK economy generally.

Its in so much trouble because as triggering article 50 looms large, the word from everyone dealing with them seems to be that May, Fox, Davies, Johnson et al haven't got a bloody clue what they're doing


And tell me, who has got a clue how to handle this? Osbourne? John McDonnell? Quite honestly other than the dilly dallying, this lot are as good as the next, but they should have just triggered it, they're only going to get what 27 bickering states think they want out of the deal, sooner or later, having another 9 months of needless discussion isn't going to help.
Nobody thought we were going to leave, not UKIP, not Labour, not Tory, not the EU, it is an earth shattering decision that quite literally rocked their world so it's understandable they haven't got a clue what to do, but life moves on and someone has to deal with it, personally I'd sooner see Teresa May running the show than anyone else I could think of, unless you have a better idea.


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:28 pm
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I'm not xenophobic, i hate everyone...


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:29 pm
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personally I'd sooner see Teresa May running the show than anyone else I could think of, unless you have a better idea.

lots and lots but heres any easy one

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May oversaw a succession of disastrous policies in the home office,
abu qatada deportation, when she got the deadline wrong
making the police hate her
racism vvans to scasre off immigrants
passport check border control meltdown
repeated missed immigration targets
so far brexishambles hads been tragic, appointing the 3 stooges as the brexit ministers being the pinnacle of stupidity, unless she wants brexit to fail..... 😀


 
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You forget, the financial establishment are remainers and are doing everything they can to fulfil the prophesies of project fear.
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Where did you get that picture kimbers? Are you stalking me?
I know I'm being watched. 😕


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:33 pm
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Ruth Davidson? I'll need to dust off an old roflcopter for this.


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:34 pm
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are you farage?


 
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personally I'd sooner see Teresa May running the show than anyone else I could think of, unless you have a better idea.
lots and lots but heres any easy one
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Is that a tank gun barrel between her legs or is she pleased to see me?


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:35 pm
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personally I'd sooner see Teresa May running the show than anyone else I could think of, unless you have a better idea
a pro european respected in the EU who is able to negotiate in mutual respect and get a better deal
The EU is already, and I dont blame them, openly mocking the three brexiters

If we are saying ruth davies how about
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Posted : 14/10/2016 1:38 pm
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personally I'd sooner see Teresa May running the show than anyone else I could think of, unless you have a better idea.

May isn't the main problem. This lot are. Actually... seeing as she appointed the idiots, maybe she is the main problem. I wouldn't trust this lot to organise the raffle at a church jumble sale....

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be honest... when those appointments were announced, did you initially think it was some kind of joke?

I did. But its getting less funny by the day. Because everything they utter betrays the fact that they're a bunch of delusional imbeciles


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:38 pm
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I don't think it matters who is in charge as it's a fundamentally unsolvable problem. It's just not possible to leave the EU and maintain the standard of living that everyone is used to. They either take the hit and become the government/party who wrecked the economy to appease ignorant xenophobia and racism, or they find some way of backing out of it. Like I said, this is the only solace I can find, one way or the other, the tory party is now f**** and I think they know it.


 
Posted : 14/10/2016 1:55 pm
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Don't be so pessimistic, traitor! You should be clapped in the Tower for doing down this great nation with such talk


 
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