Can't believe that a general election would be on the cards, solves absolutely nothing, to be honest if there was one and no definitely remain candidate in the offing I'd stand my frigging self, either that or it's a way back for the libdems? What a humungus pile of poo 💩
Don't worry, everything's going to be fine.
I’d say a GE is virtually a certainty, as for the last couple of years I’ve Just worked on the basis of asking myself ‘what is the very worst thing this shower of shit could do for the country now? What would represent the greatest act of catastrophic *-wittery?’
.... and they haven’t let me down yet! Both the Tories and labour have deivered it consistently, at every turn! It’s like having a crystal ball!
So a general election, conducted at the very worst time imaginable, between the most unelectable pair of *-wits we’ve ever been faced with (I’ll Presume Jezza v Boris) is pretty much nailed on!
****ing beam me up!
From the independent article...
It concludes that “most situations can be managed using existing legislation” – by setting aside fuel for “essential services” and allowing and relaxing hours-limits for lorry drivers.
So what happens when an overtired trucker falls asleep at the wheel and causes an accident?
Another problem of a GE is the likes of the Fararge will gain momentum with his need of some form of power/leadership/attention of any sort representing the far right.
Another problem of a GE is the likes of the Fararge will gain momentum with his need of some form of power/leadership/attention of any sort representing the far right.
Given the up and downside to FPTP the likes of Farage will dent and split the right wing vote from the tories, a similar problem exits with the Independent Group MP's some will go through on name recognition if they can connect with the electorate and stand for something sensible.
Surely having a GE and giving people a vote is an assault on democracy?
So what happens when an overtired trucker falls asleep at the wheel and causes an accident?
Price worth paying?
Surely having a GE and giving people a vote is an assault on democracy?
😆
Another election means I get paid for a day working in the Polling Station so its not all bad news!
Whoopee you may be able to afford 1 piece of fresh fruit! 🙂
At the moment I am hoping for a compelling allotment issue as Spring seems a bit early and Stammer reluctantly taking charge of the Opposition Asylum
Not that many looking that good in this one.
Geoff Cox could easily have a career as a voice over for Marvel baddies.
So what happens when an overtired trucker falls asleep at the wheel and causes an accident?
Rees-Mogg will blame excessive EU working hours and lack of control in the UK, so confirming his wish for a hard Brexshit.
I'm on tender hoops waiting for this result!
Lost it big, she still had no clue does she
Free vote on no deal. How will that go?
Defeated again. What now?
Surely she has to resign. Delivering Brexit is her only goal and she has failed utterly
As I've said before, Brexit won't happen.
JP
Free vote on no deal. How will that go?
The assumption is that she has control over how her party votes on this issue. It will free up some cabinet ministers but those who love no deal are nearly all on the back bench and have stuck their fingers up
Corbyn lost his bit of paper on 2nd vote though
I’m on tender hoops waiting for this result!
You want to get some cream for that.
Free vote is for her cabinet, so the Brexiteers don’t have to resign. Can’t even do that properly 🙂
Brexit, it was bad while it lasted.
Now in its death throes.
and I did hear that correctly
This part is key, we still need to revoke if we do not extend.
The house can "decline to approve", but it's already in motion. Unless they vote for *ANYTHING ELSE* it's still going to happen, with their approval or not.
As I’ve said before, Brexit won’t happen.
It ain't over until someone sings.
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Anyone watching C4 news?
Some MPs seem to be actively begging us not to vote for their party.
Those that decided to be independant while this pile of deceits upon deceits plays out were wise.
On BBC here, Luton has some fun Brexit views - I wish they would ask the people who want no deal what it means.
So governmental paralysis till the no deal vote, followed by further governmental paralysis?
I don't get this bit.
Let's assume tomorrow night they vote down no deal option
Then, on Thursday, they vote down article 50 extension. What happens? They can't agree a new deal, they can't have no deal and they don't have more time. There are no more options. So we crash out against the will of parliament as article 50 is already in motion and that out trumps tomorrow's vote?
So will we have another mini 'No deal vote' thread tommow evening as the mods just closed the other one?
Keep this thread rolling but just for wild conjecture and mud slinging...
They can’t agree a new deal
They could, if someone proposed one. And they could propose one.
Most likely to be a delay now. It's now an argument about how long the delay will be......
Even the eu might be arguing over that one.
Bugger.
I don’t get this bit.
Let’s assume tomorrow night they vote down no deal option
Then, on Thursday, they vote down article 50 extension. What happens? They can’t agree a new deal, they can’t have no deal and they don’t have more time. There are no more options. So we crash out against the will of parliament as article 50 is already in motion and that out trumps tomorrow’s vote?
If there is no new legislation then we're out on 29th regardless of what votes there are.
Brexit is basically over. The non-nutters know that a No Deal would be so catastrophic it cannot be allowed to happen. Working back from that they also know that any form of Brexit is worse than staying in, and that the softer the Brexit the better it is, but the less likely it will please enough of the pillocks that actually want Brexit. So the only conclusion is to say a collective, and thoroughly deserved, ‘**** you’ to the gammons and deal with them later. About time too.
I don’t get this bit.
Let’s assume tomorrow night they vote down no deal option
Then, on Thursday, they vote down article 50 extension. What happens? They can’t agree a new deal, they can’t have no deal and they don’t have more time. There are no more options. So we crash out against the will of parliament as article 50 is already in motion and that out trumps tomorrow’s vote?
State of emergency, dissolve Parliament, activate the Queen?
brexit is basically over
Heres hoping. Logically speaking, almost half the country don't want any part in it, and enough leave voters don't want to risk the predicted economic suicide or actually don't really give a toss about brexit and just voted leave for a bit of a laugh. That leaves a minority of shouty hardcore gammon, of which only a very small number might actually get more than shouty. I'm hoping the last 2 years was just an elaborate charade to give the illusion we were trying to go through with it.
Guess we'll find out tomorrow
What happens when they vote down no deal but then vote against a delay the day after?
dissolve Parliament
In acid?
They need us more than we need them, remember.
Ah, of course. I was forgetting.
What happens when they vote down no deal but then vote against a delay the day after?
Erm, logic says revoke A50. Can't be that easy though.
What happens when they vote down no deal but then vote against a delay the day after?
The rest of the world shrugs it shoulders and laughs pityingly at a formerly respected nation making a bellend of itself?
Just in case everyone has forgotten that about 99% of the world doesn’t give a ha’penny jizz about this nonsense.
May is apparently not whipping and allowing a free vote to the Conservatives tomorrow.
That all but guarantees 'no deal' is off the table.
That's great news to my ears, but politically where does that leave us? What next?
Idealy a retraction of article 50, or maybe as second choice, ref2.
What happens when they vote down no deal but then vote against a delay the day after?
We then leave with no deal, unless a deal can be agreed on between then and the 29th.
No deal is the default state. If there's no deal in place, and no extension, we leave under the default terms, i.e. no deal.
IF they vote yes to an extension we're in the hands of the EU as to whether they give us the extension. If not, we leave with no deal. If yes, literally anything could happen...
Well, looks like its all over apart from the cleaners coming in to wipe the spittle from the mouths of the dinosaur Brexiteers.
And for the Lawyers to put in thier expense claims, obvz.
And for us to claim back the £6bn this horsecrap government have wasted on a scheme to split the country morally and socially, and evict them from any form of government for the next 200yrs.
The UK is most certainly on the map. As a joke.
I Would someone like to explain to me how not delaying brexit immediately results in a no deal exit? As it seems in that situation revoking A50 would be the only sensible option.
Well, looks like its all over apart from the cleaners coming in to wipe the spittle from the mouths of the dinosaur Brexiteers.
It most definitely isn't. Like I said a few pages ago
it’s like a group of friends in a houseshare. they’ve handed their notice in on the current place and the landlord will be kicking them out and changing the locks in three weeks.Some of them want to move to a cottage in the countryside, some want to go to a city centre flat, a couple want to live in a van, only one wants to sleep in a shop doorway. But if you don’t get something sorted the doorway is the default.
We can mostly agree that being homeless is "not the preferred option", but until we actually agree to do something else (as in settle on one particular option that has been offered by the EU, not just agree on a vague "anything but no deal") then we're still out with no deal on the 29th.
edit:
I Would someone like to explain to me how not delaying brexit immediately results in a no deal exit?
Hopefully my quote above explains it. We leave on the 29th unless parliament agrees an alternative and has it accepted by the EU. It's not quite immediate, but it's only a couple of weeks away.
