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I think she is answering these difficult questions honestly and with conviction. Far from wavering at the moment.

Really? She's falling back on her typical generic responses.

It's like watching the murder of Caesar, the knives are out from all corners of the house.

Any soft leavers are now deluded, it's shit or bust - pick hard Brexit or none at all.


 
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Posted : 15/11/2018 12:23 pm
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ouch shes just been skewered

not 1 of her front bench raised their hand when asked to if they support Mays deal


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:24 pm
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She's just said that there is a risk of No Brexit at all. As if that's a bad thing. How do we make that risk materialise?


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:25 pm
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half expecting oliver cromwell and his troops to come marching in and end the Maybot madness


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:26 pm
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Asked by who?


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:26 pm
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Corbyn saying 'this is not what was promised' - that's the crux of this whole mess, isn't it?


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:27 pm
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chris leslie MP (Lab)  stony faces on her front bench


 
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although i suspect he doesn’t understand what some of those words mean

Like "Dover" and "Calais".


 
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yeah, we’re stuffed. We’re heading towards crashing out with no-deal.

I think this is less likely now. One of the most revealing things about May's comments and language is that she's completely dropped the 'no deal is better than a bad deal' rhetoric and for the first time is talking about 'no brexit at all'. I think this pretty clearly shows that she's realised, along with everyone else who has half a brain that a no-deal brexit is simply not an option and that it can't be allowed to happen. As a result I think no brexit is now more likely than no deal.


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:28 pm
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Yeah, I'm half expecting an undead Cromwell to walk in now.

Bercow is brilliant - "Sir Peter Bottomly" said with the cutting dryness of a headmaster dealing with cretinous children.


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:28 pm
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I don't think the maybot has read her own document


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:29 pm
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Theres no way she's going to last the day. She's a dead woman walking.


 
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stony faces on her front bench

They are not supposed to respond. That's just an old parliamentary trick.


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:30 pm
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Just heard "What a ****". 😀

It's like STW - but in real life! 😀


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:31 pm
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Any one perversely enjoying this?

well, actually it’s not that perverse


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:32 pm
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Yeah I am, it's ****ing riveting and hilarious.


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:33 pm
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84 tory rebels and counting. if so this is dead in the water


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:34 pm
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they have forced upon us

Don't blame those who were conned. Blame the people who did the conning. And our incredibly lapse media for not pointing out the con.


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:34 pm
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"Theres no way she’s going to last the day. She’s a dead woman walking."

And who would you have replace her?


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:34 pm
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The cheers the comments around no / stopping Brexit are receiving is quite telling. May is floundering live on air and has what appears to be no allies left.


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:35 pm
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Too soon?


 
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Pound plummets just before we go on a foreign trip.

Sucks, but on the bright side it'll make my trips home cheaper.   As Johnny Rotten says, a cheap holiday in other people's misery


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:37 pm
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oi osborne

the sun want their headline back


 
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I think this is less likely now. One of the most revealing things about May’s comments and language is that she’s completely dropped the ‘no deal is better than a bad deal’ rhetoric and for the first time is talking about ‘no brexit at all’. I think this pretty clearly shows that she’s realised, along with everyone else who has half a brain that a no-deal brexit is simply not an option and that it can’t be allowed to happen. As a result I think no brexit is now more likely than no deal.

I’m rather happy that so many ministers are resigning, at this rate it will be only those that votes remain left.. then kick the whole rancid farce out of the park.

It will certainly make ministers realise that they are just puppets being hung by strings, and played out in full world wide view.

Retards the lot of em’


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:38 pm
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England need to make a Unilateral Declaration of Independence, and get out of the UK.

That would sort all the problems...


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:38 pm
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She keeps referring to the "will of the British people".   I'd suspect thats very different now as it was in 2016.  No support from Parliament, whats the point in dragging on the negotiations for another month to have it voted down and we end up back in the EU?


 
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She keeps referring to the “will of the British people”.

Laying the way for 2nd ref?


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:42 pm
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I think 2 days ago, May thought that this deal would go down pretty well with Labour and the soft leavers.
But now it seems she's pleased no one, by basically deferring the harder negotiations.

I honestly don't know how this is going to go. I'd like this to drag on a little longer just so that all the Brexiteer promises are debunked. They are still clinging on to the claim that no-deal brexit would somehow deliver for Britain - we need that thoroughly challenged in the press and in Parliament.


 
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And who would you have replace her?

Who the * would want to inherit this omnishambles? Apart from a hardline Brexiteer who would gallop us off a cliff.

But Tory party elections tend to throw up weird results. Remember: Nobody had even heard of David Cameron when he won the leadership.

The Tory party MPs are massively Pro-remain. The Berxiteers may be noisy but they don't have the clout to install a leader. The leadership candidates are only given to the senile old racists of the Tory Membership to vote on once they've given them the options by Tory MPs. So Ress-Mogg and Boris haven't got a cat in hells chance.

There has to be someone in the Tory party who isn't bat-shit crazy, surely?

Actually... maybe not?

We really are *ed aren't we? That this hapless incompetent is the least worst option


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:44 pm
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But now it seems she’s pleased no one

That was always inevitable, wasn't it?  That was always the point from remainers - a good deal is next to impossible, and whatever deal is possible is going to please no-one.  Because we can't have our cake and eat it.


 
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Jezza favourite for next pm


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:46 pm
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whats the situation with freedom of movement in this deal?


 
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Binners, why not someone like Ken Clarke?


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:47 pm
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She won't answer the question shes been asked repeatedly...

Do you think that this represents a better option than what we have now?

Because the obvious answer is "OF COURSE IT ****ING ISN'T!!! ARE YOU MAD?!!!"


 
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 The leadership candidates are only given to the senile old racists of the Tory Membership to vote on once they’ve given them the options by Tory MPs. So Ress-Mogg and Boris haven’t got a cat in hells chance.

It's quite conceivable that a Brexiteer candidate could get to the final round of voting. To prevent it, you would need two moderate candidates who each poll more MPs than the nutter could muster. The Brexiteer voting bloc seems smallish, but is actually pretty substantial if put consistently behind a single candidate.

They only have to get someone into the final round, the membership will do the rest even if the vast majority of MPs support their opponent.


 
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Jezza favourite for next pm

Doesn't count until they have run in by Binners


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:51 pm
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There has to be someone in the Tory party who isn’t bat-shit crazy, surely?

There is, but there is no way Ken Clarke is getting a shot at leadership.


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:51 pm
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Bercow is brilliant – “Sir Peter Bottomly” said with the cutting dryness of a headmaster dealing with cretinous children.

Ant-oiii-nette Saaandbaaach! 🙂


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:54 pm
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Binners, why not someone like Ken Clarke?

Despite being the best Prime Minister that the U.K. never had, it’s extremely sad that for this situation, he’s well past his sell-by date... 😢


 
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+1 Woppit

Can I ask why he is past his sell by date though? I think he is exactly what the conservatives need to make themselves electable in the next GE, a conservative Tony Blair.


 
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This tickled me...


 
Posted : 15/11/2018 12:59 pm
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I doubt that at his age and in his evidently poor condition, he would not have the levels of stamina, energy and focus that the job would require.

Age and maintenance comes to us all, as I am in the process of finding out.


 
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Look this is getting me nowhere. I haven't got time to look at other threads.


 
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