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If you want to see just how openly racist Elon Musk is then have a look at the thread below from a civil rights lawyer in the states. Turns out he’s just as racist as his father and grandfather. <br /><br />
<br /> https://twitter.com/SIfill_/status/1725148264545112137?s=20
Apparently he is going to open a thermonuclear lawsuit on media matters now.
That will be fun
@grahamt1980 To a point. It's (yet more) lawfare and I suspect the civil rights orgs that he'll want to sue won't have massively deep pockets.
“The split second court opens on Monday, X Corp will be filing a thermonuclear lawsuit against Media Matters and ALL those who colluded in this fraudulent attack on our company,” Musk said in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Sounds just like that other overly-influential US-based man baby. Can’t stand either of them. I wouldn’t buy a Tesla on principle I hope his next mega-rocket (today???) sharts itself.
Well apparently he will be banning users who "advocate genocide", which you might think is fair enough, except that the only examples he's given so far of "advocating genocide" are calling for 'decolonialisation' and 'from the river to the sea'. It's getting reminiscent of Chinese social media where critics of Xi have to do so by posting pictures of Winnie the Pooh. Luckily Musk is not the owner of any gulags to send violators to. Unless you count Tesla factories.
Unless you count Tesla factories.
Tesla workers are striking in Sweden.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/sweden-tesla-strike-cleaners
He's turning into Ken Lingstone, he just can't help but put his foot endlessly in the same hole..
I suspect the civil rights orgs that he’ll want to sue won’t have massively deep pockets.
Civil rights groups usually have their own lawyers and also get free representation from volunteers. The last thing Elon should ever do is put himself in a position where he's obliged to testify in court under oath. It sounds to me like his rant actually confirmed that the Media Matters reports were correct - they only have to show that it happened a single time and he has no case.
Didn’t Spitting Image do a song about him?
Sounds just like that other overly-influential US-based man baby. Can’t stand either of them. I wouldn’t buy a Tesla on principle I hope his next mega-rocket (today???) sharts itself.
About that....
Didn’t Spitting Image do a song about him?
I’m not sure I’ve Never Met A Nice South African is about him?
Totally off-topic, for which humble apologies, but on another thread I mentioned the issue of Armenians in Israel and a book by William Dalrymple, and I just saw this Tweet and wanted to share it, or at least write dowen the reference.
https://twitter.com/DalrympleWill/status/1725616557089562652?s=20
He had so many toys to play with, so many, he literally has his own rocket.... But he is as addicted to X as badly as pubescent boy with frontal lobes that still haven't fully developed and just can't stop himself.
It's almost poetic really, he's ensnared in a trap that he owns.
I'm surprised to learn that there are any "real" companies still advertising on X. All I see now are chinese drop shippers with their text book sped up videos selling aliexpress tat.
It's kind of depressing how much of the commentary and reporting about the awful things going on with Twitter are being posted on Twitter.
Well, if anyone is after a Bluesky code you merely need ask on this thread…
Threads has seen an upsurge in activity and users, although sadly the dregs of Xhitter are moving over there also. Still the algorithms there are mostly keeping my feed to bikes and geek stuff.
Looks like it might all be getting to him a little bit.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67574396
An interesting marketing strategy to tell your potential advertisers to ‘go **** themselves!’
Elon Musk hurls defiant, profanity-laced retort at fleeing advertisers
I wonder what X is now worth, compared to the 44 billion he paid for it, after his latest Gerald Ratner moment?
It's certainly an "interesting" way to win back the advertisers that X needs.
On a related note... big companies need to look to new ways to have a marketing presence on the internet... Google, Facebook and X have all been shown to be wilfully impotent when it comes to adverts sitting alongside content than damages brands, especially those aimed at entire families.
Google, Facebook and X have all been shown to be wilfully impotent when it comes to adverts sitting alongside content than damages brands, especially those aimed at entire families.
I mentioned it on one of the STW ads threads but I think we are starting to reach the end game of the 'free stuff for your data' business model. The fact that youtube has been trying (unsuccessfully) to wage war on adblockers tells me that if even YT can't make it work then the end is nigh.
Google, Facebook and X have all been shown to be wilfully impotent when it comes to adverts sitting alongside content than damages brands, especially those aimed at entire families.
I have been pondering this. Facebook particularly is now so utterly toxic as an advertiser, why would we use the platform?
We are having conversations at work about dumping X and Facebook and putting all that effort back into our website, articles and organic growth. We have already backed off Instagram. Linkedin still works well - and is growing bigger than the others for us in terms of reach and quality.
Threads has seen an upsurge in activity and users.
Along with the big advertiser boycott,could Threads crush Elon's dream?
It’s certainly an “interesting” way to win back the advertisers that X needs.
10d chess. We just cant see the genius of the move.
It's incredible really. Most of the damage he does to X could be stopped by him simply not posting on X.
The algorithm has him addicted to the platform as much as the ordinary plebs that use it.
It's almost poetic in a sad way.
Most of the damage he does to X could be stopped by him simply not posting on X.
Sure, but as @convert points out, that's most of the reason he bought it. More than anything else, he wants people to like him, and to think that he's clever and witty. This is him trying to do that. The fact that like all billionaires; he's a alt-right ****puddle just makes it more pathetic.
Funnily enough I don't really see many ads on Twitter, or I'm just not aware of them.
I've pretty much stopped opening Facebook through as adverts make up more than 50% of my feed. I'm just not interested in scrolling though adverts.
With this latest outburst, it seems like Elon is following the Gerald Ratner School of Business.
The fact that like all billionaires; he’s a alt-right ****puddle just makes it more pathetic.
I just feel that this insult needs more recognition.
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as much as the ordinary plebs that use it.
So he's deserting it in droves then too?
I mentioned it on one of the STW ads threads but I think we are starting to reach the end game of the ‘free stuff for your data’ business model. The fact that youtube has been trying (unsuccessfully) to wage war on adblockers tells me that if even YT can’t make it work then the end is nigh.
If the youtube subscription was a "use google ecosystem without us harvesting your data" then I would probably consider that value. Frankly the biggest problem with youtube, now (apart from the adverts) is the failure of the algorithm to display anything new and interesting, so while they might be getting some users addicted to conflict and controversy, they are turning off many more users, twitter and facebook are doing/have done the same.
Autistic man with no one around him who he will take advice from struggles to understand how to relate to other people shocka.
There’s no shortage of people on Twitter who stick the word “autistic” in their profile and use it as an excuse to justify some abhorrent behaviour.
amusing as elons behaviour is, if the $/eyeball rate is attractive and they no longer have to worry about their logo being next to ImWithHimler88's posts, the advertisers will be back.
Threads not really competition for twitter, you can't search easily by topics, you can use it as personalised news feed like you can with twitter
There’s no shortage of people on Twitter who stick the word “autistic” in their profile and use it as an excuse to justify some abhorrent behaviou
I think you've missed my point. This isn't about him (or me) trying to excuse his behaviour. This is about trying to understand why he struggles with the nuance of this bit of business. He clearly has lots of other skills, but he appears not to have the capacity to understand the human condition and appreciate the art of diplomacy - both why it is needed and how you do it. If you are the dictatorial leader of a business then you might get away with it with internal communication (I'd argue it can make you a shite leader unable to get the best out of people, others might just describe him as 'exacting') but in the world of marketing diplomacy he simply is found repeatedly wanting. I guess the question is, does he have to self awareness to appreciate this and step back and let someone with this skillset do their thing for him. So far, it appears not.
I’ve pretty much stopped opening Facebook through as adverts make up more than 50% of my feed. I’m just not interested in scrolling though adverts.
Click on feeds then its advert lite and everything in order.
His attitude towards business (and pretty much everything else) has become so nonchalant the more money he's accrued, he optimises capitalism.
I do wonder how many startups he's invested in over the last 20+ years that have failed - we hear about the big successes but not what must also have been the many many failures. & how many of them, specifically in the 'eco projects/business' category, and even tesla he's had involvement in which were started with large amounts of grant funding rather than his own personal wealth and risk.
does he have to self awareness
No. None. Ever. He’s richer and cleverer than anyone else in a room full of yes-people.
I do wonder how many startups he’s invested in over the last 20+ years that have failed – we hear about the big successes but not what must also have been the many many failures. & how many of them, specifically in the ‘eco projects/business’ category, and even tesla he’s had involvement in which were started with large amounts of grant funding rather than his own personal wealth and risk.
Hyperloop being the most self evidently stupid idea in the history of engineering.
I do wonder how many startups he’s invested in over the last 20+ years that have failed – we hear about the big successes but not what must also have been the many many failures. & how many of them, specifically in the ‘eco projects/business’ category, and even tesla he’s had involvement in which were started with large amounts of grant funding rather than his own personal wealth and risk.
I also wonder how many of the successful ones are off the back of him managing to wangle some investment to recruit a few key [s]slaves[/s] talented folk to run things for him....Arguably his success is actually not him.
Hyperloop being the most self evidently stupid idea in the history of engineering.
The Boring Company (the tunnel digging company responsible for building / delivering Hyperloop) was set up to prevent the Americans cottoning onto the idea of high speed rail and urban light rail / metro. HS and light rail are serious threats to car manufacturers and America is absolutely ripe for that sort of development so whenever anything like that gets proposed, EM comes along with Hyperloop proposals, does some flashy marketing, offers up the Boring Company (which so far has built a test tunnel and just under 2 miles of tunnels at the Las Vegas Convention Centre)...and then **** all happens. Projects get abandoned, costs turn out to be "optimistic" and the actual benefits are near zero - certianly orders of magnitude lower than building a proper metro system.
It's a flashy overhyped marketing tool to prevent decent mass transit ever being built - dazzle the city authorities with a billionaire and the promise of auto-freedom zipping around efficiently underground all powered by AI and tech and wizardry.
It's all total bollocks.
He clearly has lots of other skills
Really? I mean, he's successful, but you can become very rich with nothing more than luck and some money to start with. We only see the rich successful people, we don't see all those people who buy companies that subsequently fold, so we don't have much to compare with. But don't assume he's skilful just because he's rich.
It’s a flashy overhyped marketing tool to prevent decent mass transit ever being built – dazzle the city authorities with a billionaire and the promise of auto-freedom zipping around efficiently underground all powered by AI and tech and wizardry.
Wow, I never thought Marge and Elon would have anything in common...
Over privileged man -child has limited experience of public transport shocka...
“I think public transport is painful. It sucks. Why do you want to get on something with a lot of other people, that doesn’t leave where you want it to leave, doesn’t start where you want it to start, doesn’t end where you want it to end? And it doesn’t go all the time.” "It’s a pain in the ass,” he continued. “That’s why everyone doesn’t like it. And there’s like a bunch of random strangers, one of who might be a serial killer.
Idiot
Quote of the day
‘I will certainly not pander. And, Jonathan, the only reason I’m here is because you are a friend.’‘I’m Andrew.’
– Elon Musk in conversation with Andrew Ross Sorkin at the New York Times’s DealBook summit.
I think public transport is painful. It sucks. Why do you want to get on something with a lot of other people, that doesn’t leave where you want it to leave, doesn’t start where you want it to start, doesn’t end where you want it to end? And it doesn’t go all the time.” “It’s a pain in the ass,” he continued. “That’s why everyone doesn’t like it. And there’s like a bunch of random strangers, one of who might be a serial killer.
Now, im no musk fan, but he's not wrong there with his assessment of public transport.
I'm typing this from a packed train from Euston, standing room only, expensive, and awful.
You’re missing out. You could be sat in traffic, waiting for your chance to use Musk’s 2 miles of tunnel from nowhere to nowhere.
Now, if only we built more train lines linking London to the rest of the UK, to alleviate the capacity problem identified decades ago…
Why do you want to get on something with a lot of other people, that doesn’t leave where you want it to leave, doesn’t start where you want it to start, doesn’t end where you want it to end?
Because the whole world isn't arranged around my personal demands, and that's okay?
Now, im no musk fan, but he’s not wrong there with his assessment of public transport.
I’m typing this from a packed train from Euston, standing room only, expensive, and awful.
That's a reflection of our refusal to properly do public transport in this country. Plenty of countries create awesome public transport, so it's clearly possible, it's just that we suck at it.
Because the whole world isn’t arranged around my personal demands, and that’s okay?
Pff, hippy...
You’re missing out. You could be sat in traffic, waiting for your chance to use Musk’s 2 miles of tunnel from nowhere to nowhere.
Ah but I have my top of the cybertruck range cyberbeast so can drive over anyone sitting in front of me in traffic watching bullets bounce off its armour. So long as someone doesnt throw a ball at it anyway.
I do like how the top in the range does 0-60 in 2.6 seconds with a small print of "with rollout subtracted". Some US drag racing thing apparently allowing it get moving before measuring. So, not really 0 then.
The latest video of them throwing a ball against a Cybertruck window again is hilarious; first time around it was a metal ball, this time a baseball and yet somehow that's supposed to show they've improved it?! I'm not going to try but I'd be annoyed if a baseball thrown at that speed against my own car's window did any damage
Just to prove he's losing it, he put a poll up on X to see if people wanted Jones reinstated...
They do but sometimes giving people what they want when advertiser's are running away might not be a good move in 4D chess?
I'm the past Musk said this of the ban on Jones:
In one post, he cited the death of his 10-week old baby in 2002 as motivation for not reversing the ban, writing: "I have no mercy for anyone who would use the death of children for gain, politics or fame."
Apparently he is justifying the return now as "free speech more important than ad revenue"...
Alex Jones: Conspiracy theorist set to return to X after Elon Musk poll
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67673623
“free speech more important than ad revenue”
Not when your business is funded by ad revenue, surely?
Someone give the man some philosophy books.
Someone give the man some philosophy books.
I suspect he'd probably find Martin Heidegger to his liking.
Bloomberg reporting that Hyperloop is being shut down. This is A Good Thing as it was essentially a spoiler to stop high-speed rail being built rather than anything that was ever going to deliver.
Not when your business is funded by ad revenue, surely?
Isn't half of Alex Jones business pushing questionable supplements along side his practicing of 'free speech'.
Elon gets to have it all, unconstrained free, hate-spouting, right next to ads for Dick pills and Testosterone supplements... Win, win!
Elon gets to have it all, unconstrained free, hate-spouting, right next to ads for Dick pills
Maybe thats the algorithm deciding he's a complete dick and acting accordingly.
I see the guy from Dukes of Hazard publicly called for Joe Biden to be hung as a reply to @ POTUS. (Now deleted)
*never saw the original post, but does seem to have happened.
This is A Good Thing as it was essentially a spoiler to stop high-speed rail being built rather than anything that was ever going to deliver.
evolution came up with the "crab" five times. every time they set ai to solve transport it invents the train.
Interesting quote from Sam Altman I heard the other day.
“Elon desperately wants the world to be saved. But only if he can be the one to save it.”
Neatly sums him [and his megalomania] up I reckon.
He’s now openly endorsing fascists.
https://bsky.app/profile/theguardian.com/post/3leetit73ng2u
Anyone (or any public sector organisation) still using X/Twitter needs to think really hard about what they’re doing, and I’d say that extends to buying/leasing a Tesla or using Starlink.
and I’d say that extends to buying/leasing a Tesla or using Starlink
I'd say the same. But there are plenty (Inc some on here) of Tesla fan boys who are politically a long long way from where Musk is now who say words along the lines of 'a product can't be boycotted just because of the views and actions of one person, even if they are the boss'. How far does Musk have to go before they crack.
Personally, I'm in the market for a (2nd hand) EV and I just couldn't buy a Tesla - I'd just hate myself too much every time I opened my front door and saw it standing there.
in case there was any doubt the man has really come out with this latest piece as an unmitigated cockwomble.his next article will surely be headed 'hitler - misunderstood'. what a shit of a man.
But there are plenty (Inc some on here) of Tesla fan boys who are politically a long long way from where Musk is now who say words along the lines of ‘a product can’t be boycotted just because of the views and actions of one person, even if they are the boss’.
I think the only answer to that is “yes, it can”?
@Del A total shit of a man, who has, off the back of ill-informed and self-radicalised hot takes, used his considerable wealth to interfere in British, Canadian and German politics. Why any of these countries’ public bodies still use his platform…
I'm struggling to see how as a world population cannot find a way of standing up to these egotistical nut jobs. Sure they can buy column inches and social media platforms, but there must be people charismatic and intelligent enough to tear these arseholes to bits every night and every day on the evening news and papers.
It can't be that hard, or are we doomed to being manipulated by man child after man child?
And I wholeheartedly agree about boycotting anything he is involved with now. I'll look elsewhere for a personal flamethrower (that was the last straw for me of him having any sense in that bloated head of his).
there must be people charismatic and intelligent enough to tear these arseholes to bits every night and every day on the evening news and papers.
I cling to that thought
are we doomed to being manipulated by man child after man child?
Seems to be the reality though.
It can’t be that hard, or are we doomed to being manipulated by man child after man child?
The sad reality seems to be that there are a lot of people out there who are angry about life in one way or another - often with good reason - but who suffer from a sufficient degree of cognitive laziness, or apathy, to render them incapable of working their way to coherent answers. It's not defined by class or creed, and it's a phenomenon being intensified by our collective addiction to social media.