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[Closed] Easing of Scottish lockdown

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The Chromebooks were a pain this term. We cannot circulate to make sure that they are being correctly used.
Engagement pretty reasonable last time, but fed up with clowns sending in blanks so that they registered as having completed. Or so they thought.
Not going in as part time, but we are operating in registration classes to reduce moving about the building. There is no encouragement to attend for older pupils.... those not self isolating that is.


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 6:58 pm
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I’m going with 9-12 week minimum lockdown!!


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 7:00 pm
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The Chromebooks were a pain this term. We cannot circulate to make sure that they are being correctly used

I just put my mask on if I needed to wander round the class. With good ventilation I don't really see how that is any riskier than standing at the front without a mask.


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 7:07 pm
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Dang, I was just getting back into weightlifting at the gym and a 3 month bulking up, got to the end of the leg machine today:

Looks like I'll be back on restricted calories and muchos cardio.

Other than that, being unemployed and living by myself, this new lockdown doesn't make much difference. Guess I'll be seeing more of the Pentlands.


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 7:13 pm
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I’d say on first glance you would be wrong, there have been no pubs open in North Ayrshire for months now. Not real ones anyway. Summer houses, sorry, man caves with makeshift bars that half the town come to on the other hand…

Big outbreak at the religious superschool is inflating the north ayrshire numbers, and tbh it was bloody daft not putting NA in tier 4 along with the other 2 shires, there was very little in it numbers wise.

Saying that, east ayrshire numbers going up not far behind ya.

**** knows.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 12:27 am
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All our pupils got iPads. Classroom app allowed (note past tense) us to see screen, lock iPads, and lock them into a given app, as well as drop work onto them.

App no longer works.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 8:32 am
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How letter of the law are folk planning on being with travelling for exercising in your own authority up in the boonies?

Live in Highland authority but close to Moray (where I work). I'd usually surf sup in Moray, a 20 min drive from home. Sod and his laws look like Boxing day is going to be a goodun. Alternative location (actually works in different conditions so slightly mute point for boxing day) is more than an hour away but in the Highlands. The two lochs we usually swim in - the one 16 min drive away is out of the Highland authority whilst the other is an hour away and in the authority. Common sense says stay closer to home and break the authority boarder bit of the rules.

We are talking about two authorities with currently a 20 and 22 per 100,000 rate respectively but joining the groovy gang in tier 4 for shits and giggles.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 8:44 am
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I'll be sticking to south ayrshire, tbh it suits at this time of year, got some good hill walking in north Galloways, and I've been riding locally all year and am used to it now.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 8:59 am
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Common sense says stay closer to home and break the authority boarder bit of the rules.

This.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:01 am
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Our son is up with us as part of our/his extended household (not just a Christmas bubble) over the Christmas period. As we’re going into tier 4 at midnight on Christmas Day, can he go home to England after that or is he stuck here until restrictions ease? I thought I knew how this all worked but I’m starting to doubt myself now and I really don’t want to be responsible for him losing his job.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:10 am
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crewlie, I'm not sure he should have come up given the current restrictions. Certainly cross border travel is not being encouraged at the moment.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:14 am
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Every chance he came up before Saturdays announcement though, to be fair.

I'd seek some advice and more importantly get him talking to his hr team at work.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:17 am
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crewlie, I’m not sure he should have come up given the current restrictions. Certainly cross border travel is not being encouraged at the moment.

But cross border for work is still ok isn't? As I read it Crewlie's son is part of the family bubble and lives alone near work in England. Returning to work in England after Christmas (and live on his ok again) sounds ok.

If he does not live alone in England however (i.e. even if it's a shared house with other tenants/friends living together rather than a partner), he probably should not be in your house right now and should not have returned before Christmas itself........


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:23 am
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I might have been missing something but , and I shouldn't look at these things, there was a load of photos from some geezer of Santa in George Sq last night with loads, and I mean LOADS of kids and adults. Not a mask to be seen, no social distancing whatsoever. Now I understand why its a bit of a mess on the W Coast. Genuinely flabbergasted by it. Loads of comments that are basically "It's a big hoax look we didn;t die"
Far out.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:25 am
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Thanks all. He does live on his own, and hasn’t been part of any other bubble. So far everything has been within guidance as far as I can tell, but he didn’t know the new changes were going to happen when he came up.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:33 am
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Should be ok to return then.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:35 am
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Anyone still planning on any bivvy action over the festive period? Was planning a wee night on a local corbett, don't really see much in new rules to change my plans?.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:56 am
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Local SEEMS to be fine;

If you live in a Level 4 local authority area you should:

you must, by law, remain within that area unless you have a reasonable excuse (see exceptions)
you should also keep journeys within the area to an absolute minimum
if you have to travel for essential purposes, you should follow the guidance on travelling safely

Only the first guideline mentions the law, as clear as mud as usual.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 10:47 am
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Anyone still planning on any bivvy action over the festive period? Was planning a wee night on a local corbett, don’t really see much in new rules to change my plans?

I don't either, I'm certainly planning some local overnights.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 11:46 am
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I'm Aberdeen City, am I allowed into Aberdeenshire to go MTB once we are all T4???


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 11:53 am
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@grantyboy - you are allowed to travel to do so as long as your start point is no more than 5 miles from council border, and that your ride starts and finishes in the same place.

Do I get full marks for that answer?

I've tried to answer as a challenge to myself to try and get it right. We had a FACTS question in our pals zoom pub quiz and I couldn't even get that right!


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 1:00 pm
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@big_scot_nanny

Have a bonus mince pie! That was my thoughts as well, I can dip into the shire but not go ahem deep into it


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 1:10 pm
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get in! 😆


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 1:11 pm
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Funnily enough I was checking out council boundaries yesterday. It hadn't really clicked that Aberdeenshire includes Ben Macdui and that Moray includes Cairngorm and Loch Avon.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 1:14 pm
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aye the cut over is Lecht ski center, half is on Aberdeenshire other half is Moray


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 1:20 pm
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you are allowed to travel to do so as long as your start point is no more than 5 miles from council border, and that your ride starts and finishes in the same place.

That's not how it reads to me. I read it as whilst on your exercise you can dip into another authority upto a max of 5miles. Not that you could start from 5 miles inside.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 1:45 pm
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I’d say on first glance you would be wrong, there have been no pubs open in North Ayrshire for months now. Not real ones anyway.

Hospitality is not just = pubs though. Pubs being open is not the whole story though. North Ayrshire never went to Level 4 in November - so cafes, pubs (serving food not booze), restaurants were open during the day (until 6pm).


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 1:54 pm
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That’s not how it reads to me. I read it as whilst on your exercise you can dip into another authority upto a max of 5miles. Not that you could start from 5 miles inside.

Pretty sure that's incorrect. I think the idea was to give some flexibility to those in the larger, urban areas, allowing them to get into somewhere a bit more "remote" and reduce pressure of numbers in some hotspots like city-centre parks.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 2:04 pm
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^^^ scotroutes is correct. I researched this a bit, as home is just in South Lanarkshire but with East Renfrewshire and North Ayrshire within a couple of miles. My lockdown staple riding is Whitlelee Windfarm, which I can either ride to and around, or if weather and roads not good, drive the 5 miles to the start and end point, in East Ren, and then ride for a couple of hours, all within a 10 mile radius of the start point and extending into all 3 counties.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 2:09 pm
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It hadn’t really clicked that Aberdeenshire includes Ben Macdui and that Moray includes Cairngorm and Loch Avon.

Yes, just north of Ben Macdui up towards Cairn Lochan, an area I am yet to stand on in anything other that a white out, you can get lost in 3 authorities at the same time while turning around and around asking yourself where all the landmarks have gone.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 2:11 pm
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Pretty sure that’s incorrect.

Delighted to be incorrect.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 2:19 pm
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It seems I'll be ok to get up onto Ben Macdui from Moray, I'll just have to go in from Tomintoul and Glen Avon 😀

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scottish_council_areas_by_highest_point


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 2:44 pm
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Aye, bring your board and you can have a slide in the Cas too.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 2:50 pm
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First case in Shetland today for 4 weeks 🙁


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 3:30 pm
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Aye, bring your board and you can have a slide in the Cas too

Splitboarding FTW!!

That's bad news about Shetland. Oil work related maybe? My BiL and the entire minibus of 8 or so he was on are now self isolating in Aberdeen as one of them tested positive, turns out they all now have it.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 3:34 pm
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I don’t either, I’m certainly planning some local overnights.

Cheers @spin, just need a nice cold, clear night now!


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 6:08 pm
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@swavis it's not been put down to Contractors or travel off island. But they announce few details to stop any witch hunts. It must be a resident though as the case is registered here.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 7:28 pm
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Hopefully it's been caught early and there'll be no more cases.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 7:37 pm
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I'm confusing myself with the new L4 requirements.

I'm in South Aberdeenshire, so quite a large area to cover. Am I correct in thinking a half hour drive to the local Corbett would be ok, but that driving an hour or so to the Ballater area would be breaking the keeping driving to a minimum rule (or alternatively Rule#1)?

I'm as close to the Angus hills, but assuming crossing the council boundary is a no no.

#sairheid


 
Posted : 23/12/2020 5:09 pm
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Sorry folks, unapologetically lazy post here as I can't be bothered looking anywhere else.

Any news on the possible tightening of Tier 4 regs?

Last I checked exercise starting and finishing from your doorstep or up to five miles outside your LA boundary (irrelevant to me as I never drive to cycle) was still permitted, even in Tier 4.

Seem to recall a suggestion that they might introduce some sort of 'local only' stipulation?

I'm not looking for loopholes really, but have always been comfortable with my relatively low risk local solo rides but they definitely criss-cross my LA boundary (hard not to, it's on our doorstep!).

Edit: Oops, sorry, that took even less effort than I expected, the possible tightenings would be after 3 weeks, IF current Tier 4 restrictions don't slow spread of new strain.

From BBC: "First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has warned that level four restrictions could be further tightened if efforts to reduce the spread of the new transmissible strain of coronavirus were unsuccessful."


 
Posted : 26/12/2020 3:25 pm
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Na, no details as yet (that I've seen). I can't see the boundary+5 changing, as it allows folks to get out of the city/town which is common sense, rather than lots of folks in the same place.


 
Posted : 26/12/2020 3:28 pm
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I'll say this much, I've never looked forward to a simple trip north of Linlithgow so much as I do now, even Arrochar is beginning to seem like an exotic and remote riding location again! 😁


 
Posted : 26/12/2020 3:48 pm
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I can’t see the boundary+5 changing, as it allows folks to get out of the city/town which is common sense, rather than lots of folks in the same place.

The weird bit for me is the boundary +5. I'm not advocating it, but it would be simpler to understand / enforce if it was just +5 from home irrespective of boundary.


 
Posted : 26/12/2020 4:01 pm
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Na, **** that ots, that's a no from me!😂


 
Posted : 26/12/2020 4:04 pm
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We've had so many iterations that it's hard to keep track. Driving locally (suggested 5 mile limit) to start exercise was one. Staying locally (within 5 miles) was another, then the council boundary +5 was a third. While I can see the benefit of allowing some leeway for town/city folks, I can't help but feel it just leads to more piss-taking. Of course, it's easy for me to judge, living where I do. I'm not sure I'd have the same opinion if I lived in Edinburgh still.


 
Posted : 26/12/2020 4:13 pm
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