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So no easing for another week, there'll be tears by Friday.
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So, another week for the central belters, not unexpectedly.
A week 😆 aye nae bother.
Aye, til the restrictions get worse Joe! 🙈🤣
So........who's following the rules religiously around exercising with others? If I understand them correctly if not in a tighter restriction area its with one other household only and to social distance.
I ask as becoming increasingly uncomfortable with friends choices - to open water swim in groups of 5 or 6 (from 5 or 6 households), sit around a small fire afterwards for an hour or so to warm up and then post the arse out of it on social media. Doesn't feel right to me - i.e. I know it's not right re the law but also way too blatant.
And the Inverness cycle club out on a club ride last week - 20 of them in club kit huddled under a single tree on an A road waiting for a clubmate to fix a puncture - you could have lassoed the lot with the punctured inner tube.
I don't think of myself as a sheeply rule follower but it still feels not right to disregard the regs so blatantly in a way that is very traceable and potentially damaging to the sport's reputation.
I say this as someone who went camping with another couple last weekend (seperate van/ tent and separate vehicles) and know we didn't socially distance properly 100% of the time so no angel myself either. But that was by accident rather than design - if that makes it better.
Most folk don't really give a flying **** now when outdoors.
I've been sticking to the rules, but more because I tend to run/hike with my wife, cycle mostly on my own or maybe with one or 2 others, easy to keep a distance at that.
I'm hoping to organise some charity hillwalks with work colleagues, it's possible to do this with up to 30 folks if you have the correct certification and maintain the distancing whilst out and about, just need to get my finger out.
I bet lots of clubs have that certification, and then don't bother their arse with the rules after that.
Edit - no angel here either btw! openly admit to giving my mother in law a hug when we walked with them last week, so I'm probably no better!
I went through the Covid Officer thing and have the certificate to prove it 😁
The biggest group I've been out with is 4 from 3 and we maintained the Social Distancing rules.
I've been pretty much observing all the laws and guidelines. We did have one evening ride earlier on where 4 of us turned up so we rode in pairs, then stopped for an al fresco beer, though we must have looked odd all standing so far apart while chatting 😁
Item on Radio Scotland a couple of days ago with a Helensburgh cafe owner saying she was mobbed with folk from Stirling, Glasgow, and Lanarkshire. So I think there is every chance of days out to Arran if the pubs there were open.
Am I reading this right? Until we get a vaccine we are permentently on restrictions? 50 limit for wedding funerals, etc. No matter how low case levels go.
Annex 1 at
https://www.gov.scot/binaries/content/documents/go...
Yeh seems level zero is only about the equivalent of phase 3 we were in in August before the move to phase 4 was cancelled.
Doesn't seem we can get to the level of the old phase 4 where non essential office work could return.
I also assumed highest level would be like March lockdown with travel limits and school/education closures.
In my simple mind. Level zero would be 'normal' too.
Hoping shetland will be level zero, but I assume we'll get level 1 with a promise of zero for good behaviour...
And the Inverness cycle club out on a club ride last week – 20 of them in club kit huddled under a single tree on an A road waiting for a clubmate to fix a puncture – you could have lassoed the lot with the punctured inner tube.
Id be more worried about being in midst if 20 folks breathing heavily whilst riding in a pack. Surely that's a fairly high risk route of transmission.
Until we get a vaccine we are permentently on restrictions?
The government are now indicating that no-one under 50 will get a dose of the vaccine which seems ridiculous if you want to try to break chain transmission.
The aim however is apparently to just protect the most vulnerable in short term and then, following a vacine, let everyone else contract it, completely ignoring the fact that it can still do seriously harm to younger folks.
If that's the plan then tbh I'm inclined to say that those at high risk should just stay indoors on strict lock down for next 6 months and let everyone else get on with life as normal. The more folks that get it now the less itll be circulating in 6 months when a vaccine, which is probably only about 60% effective, is rolled out.
The government are now indicating that no-one under 50 will get a dose of the vaccine which seems ridiculous if you want to try to break chain transmission.
Source?
We have been trying to follow sense as much as the rules. We have not been to public place such as cafe, supermarket etc.
We have travelled last week on journeys to ride bikes or hill walks (ergo an 'unnecessary journey'), we've gone to big empty spaces and even then walked off the path or parked away from a few people when we met folk., our biggest risk has been taking another youth in our car for riding with one of our lads.
That said, we have had a very quiet week this week with no travelling, only local rides and walks. This will continue from here on in.
Our biggest risk, since March, arrives next week. I have two of family_oab in hospital for operations and investigations on the same day. I am not looking forward to a day of being taxi and being in hospital. I have been in the hospital twice since March to pick up blood products for treating mrs_oab, it isnt a nice feeling.
Realistically, hospital will be fine if you remain as sensible as you've been and practice the distancing, mask and hand hygiene. No members of staff in my wife's department have been affected this whole time, not one. That's 20 odd folk, who have worked right through full time, and my wife and others have done shifts at covid testing units too.
source
https://www.ft.com/content/d2e00128-7889-4d5d-84a3-43e51355a751
I suspect there would be a bit of an uproar if things actually transpired this way. Supposedly Healthy people will get sick, and long covid appears to be something that a large number of people will need to live with in future
The wider issue would be that if you only give vaccine to 50 % of people then the virus would be circulating in very high numbers as soon as we emerge from lockdown. And given the vaccine will probably only be partially effective, there will be far more at risk folks in the firing line, albeit with some degree of protection.
Item on Radio Scotland a couple of days ago with a Helensburgh cafe owner saying she was mobbed with folk from Stirling, Glasgow, and Lanarkshire. So I think there is every chance of days out to Arran if the pubs there were open.
The cafe's in Glasgow aren't shut and isn't it even the same healthboard?
Aye, and it's a short train journey, or even shorter car, not quite a 50 minute train, then an hour on a ferry thats at 20% capacity.
So……..who’s following the rules religiously around exercising with others? If I understand them correctly if not in a tighter restriction area its with one other household only and to social distance.
I've been a pretty good boy so far but beginning feel a bit silly, have denied myself three opportunities to ride with mates because either A) They were riding outside of our healthboard area (we're central belt) or B) They were riding in groups of more than 2 households.
Feels that by obeying the rules I'm in a slightly foolish minority, but I can't be bothered with the mental gymnastics required to justify my breaking the rules...
Good on you, I’ve been much the same and have now got to the point where I’m not even bothered about what others do any more.
Yeah, I genuinely don't judge or care what others do, just feel more comfortable in myself doing whatever we're told, path of least resistance!
Just wondering at what point I stop being a martyr and start riding with buddies again, the only male company I've enjoyed recently had been my three year old son, his sense of humour is at an appropriate level but he's bloody slow on the hills ☹
Good on you, I’ve been much the same and have now got to the point where I’m not even bothered about what others do any more.
+1 I’m currently sat in a pub in Bolton. You’d find it hard to believe that they’ve just gone into tier 3.
One of my sons pals has been sent home from school in Auchterarder for 14 days after one of her classmates tested positive. Unwell on Thursday, tested on Sunday, went to school Monday & Tuesday, +ve result Tuesday PM all class mates sent home on Wednesday morning. No sanction for going in Monday / Tuesday - ****ing crazy!
but he’s bloody slow on the hills
I remember those days. Enjoy them while you can. My now 16 year old is a skinny hipped racing snake that the only way I can keep up with is on my ebike 😀
Feels that by obeying the rules I’m in a slightly foolish minority, but I can’t be bothered with the mental gymnastics required to justify my breaking the rules…
I guess I'm lucky in that, locally at least, most of the folk I know are still following the guidelines, 90% of the time at least. That makes it easier. Still doesn't stop me getting annoyed at other folk (mostly tourists) who seem to have forgotten we still have a pandemic to deal with. In many ways though, I can't really blame them - mixed messages, the lower figures during summer, lockdown fatigue all play a part.
I've been too busy working, stuff round the house and entertaining a 2 year old.
Since march I've seen one mate a few times for a blast round beecraigs and Callender estate with kids up front and balance bikes. Two other mates have been met in the street in passing.
I popped down to Glentress once, luckily I have the Pentlands on my doorstep.
I'm beginning to feel like a martyr and denying myself.
So I'm out to ride tomorrow morning and it's forecast for heavy rain and wind.
The cafe’s in Glasgow aren’t shut and isn’t it even the same healthboard?
Nope, Helensburgh is in Highland. Either that or my parents are just making up any excuse to avoid me these days
Helensburgh is in Argyll and Bute, so part of the Highland Health Board region.
I live right at the north west end of south Lanarkshire, about 2 miles from East Ren, and similar from Glasgow CC and 5 miles from north Ayrshire.
I have been trying for the past month to keep it local and riding busy roads and paths around Bothwell Castle and Chaterherault full of people and dogs...
Today I popped the bike on the back of the car and drove 5 miles into East Ren, to Whitelee Visitor Centre and rode 24 miles of deserted gravel, my ‘normal’ local ride area.
Risk wise it felt like the safest ride I have done for many weeks..
Driving to gravel, heavens to murgatroyd! 😆😆😆
Thing is nobeer, it’s a lovely huge big open space, full of fresh air, very few people, stunning views over to Arran and the Craig. Proper relaxing and good for the heid 👍
24 miles and a couple of hours, think I saw 3 bikes, a runner and a dog...
Oh, and mudguards too, just to really wind you up .. 😜
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Not my point, I thought gravel was all about riding from the door! 😆
I only dislike mudguards on proper MTBs, and only the rear ones. Anyway, those look like half arsed mudguards! Get something decent on that thing! 😆
Not my point, I thought gravel was all about riding from the door!
He has a motorbike for that.
I know, and I would normally ride the wee 5 mile stretch, however, late afternoon, low sun, heading mainly uphill and west, at Friday work finish time was not something I fancied. Too many casualty passes at that time of day on the moor road..
He has a motorbike for that.
Aye, but it was raining...
Anyway, those look like half arsed mudguards
You must have a huge arse nobeer 🤣. Mine was nice and dry at the end...
I'm no the one needing a motor to assist, and driving 5 miles to hike! 🤣
... and heart disease isn’t contagious so you’ll be fine... 😀
Lol!
Was isolating this week for a mere 36 hours, was brutal, 14 days must be horrendous.
So all central belt to be tier 3. Pubs open before Christmas? Can’t see it
Was isolating this week for a mere 36 hours, was brutal, 14 days must be horrendous.
I had to do the long isolation bit back in April. It was OK, but was at a time when there were more restrictions anyway which maybe made it easier to bear.
Aye, I think I'll get everything in that I need to redo the utility room, then if we do end up isolating for a proper spell, I can make use of the dead time!
Managed to insulate the van this time right enough 😃
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54682086
That's a great idea, Bish, but the problem with a truce is that both sides have to observe it. Are you going to negotiate with the virus so that it stops transmitting itself on Christmas Day? Otherwise it's a bit like good old Tommy Atkins laying his weapons down for the day whilst Fritz motors through to Paris.
I read that bishop's proposal. A terribly thought out idea for the reasons you alude to.
Luckily wee nic won't be putting up with any of that nonsense..
