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Getting back on track with the latest and greatest, Donald T is reiterating that he may do a third term and is not ‘joking’ and they are working on it and have ways for him to do a third term.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Its quite shocking how Trump can be so blatant about his intention too. He is too old for a 3rd term, but it sets things up to ignore the rules in the future. Already there is a norm set where Presidents and their team can blatantly lie and insult those they don`t agree with; its a slippery slope for sure.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        *this page has really taken on a Donald Trump theme. A person responds with  I think you're a ****ing disgusting piece of shit would be an understatement.  ... he doesn't apologise, and its now acceptable because of some unrelated incident in his past .. fake news everyone!   


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 8:58 am
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@e-machine

 

It was my post that started this, so can I please own the sub-thread and ask that we leave it alone?

 

Whatever 'cold' logic can be applied, I do think it is necessary to take other people's feelings into account. Especially when they have suffered a true loss.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 9:02 am
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if a US pilot had been shot down

It may well be in the end the outcome might not be any different. Advance plans in the leaked chat didn't reach Yemen/Iran for them to be able to react to them. But the administration effectively then goaded the Atlantic into publishing them anyway and that has revealed information that could and should have been secret even after the attacks

Explicitly Hegseth describes the planes involved and the mode of attack - Implicit in the information is the fact there must be American assets on the ground in Yemen involved in the targeting. Iran and Yemen my have suspected that previously, now they know and will have an idea of their whereabouts, in terms of proximity to the targets, and will be looking for them.

I'm sure those assets will be feeling just great about the whole situation just now.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 11:09 am
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Posted by: maccruiskeen

It may well be in the end the outcome might not be any different. Advance plans in the leaked chat didn't reach Yemen/Iran for them to be able to react to them. But the administration effectively then goaded the Atlantic into publishing them anyway and that has revealed information that could and should have been secret even after the attacks

Explicitly Hegseth describes the planes involved and the mode of attack - Implicit in the information is the fact there must be American assets on the ground in Yemen involved in the targeting. Iran and Yemen my have suspected that previously, now they know and will have an idea of their whereabouts, in terms of proximity to the targets, and will be looking for them.

I'm sure those assets will be feeling just great about the whole situation just now.

I dunno... yes I see your point but also if Iran/Yemen/whoever didn't already know that there were likely to be American assets somewhere nearby, then they're fools.

 

Whatever "assets" might mean, whether that's the street food seller on the corner informing for a few extra coins or a fully tooled up CIA underground hideout with enough tech to make James Bond drool, the point is that I doubt this will have changed very much in that regard.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 11:28 am
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From 'The Conversation'

"In a recent report by research firm Tourism Economics, inbound travel to the US is now projected to decline by 5.5% this year, instead of growing by nearly 9% as had previously been forecast. A further escalation in tariff and trade wars could result in further reductions in international tourism, which could amount to a US$18 billion (£13.8 billion) annual reduction in tourist spending in 2025.

There is already some evidence of travel cancellations. Since Trump announced 25% tariffs on many Canadian goods, the number of Canadians driving across the border at some crossings has fallen by up to 45%, on some days, when compared to last year. Canada is the biggest source of international tourists to the US. Air Canada has announced it is reducing flights to some US holiday destinations, including Las Vegas, from March, as demand reduces.

According to a March poll by Canadian market researcher Leger, 36% of Canadians who had planned trips to the United States had already cancelled them. According to data from the aviation analytics company OAG, passenger bookings on Canada to US routes are down by over 70% compared to the same period last year. This comes after the U.S. Travel Association warned that even a 10% reduction in Canadian inbound travel could result in a US$2.1 billion (£1.6 billion) loss in spending, putting 140,000 hospitality jobs at risk."  


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 12:10 pm
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"In a recent report by research firmTourism Economics, inbound travel to the US is now projected to decline by 5.5% this year, instead of growing by nearly 9% as had previously been forecast. A further escalation in tariff and trade wars could result in further reductions in international tourism, which could amount to a US$18 billion (£13.8 billion) annual reduction in tourist spending in 2025.

During Trumps tenure the US is going to be hosting both the Olympics and the World Cup too - will be interesting to see how those events are impacted. Almost 1million of the visitors to the Paris Olympics were from abroad and you'd see similar foreign visitor numbers for a World Cup.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 12:52 pm
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Posted by: maccruiskeen

During Trumps tenure the US is going to be hosting both the Olympics and the World Cup too - will be interesting to see how those events are impacted.

The FIFA Club World Cup kicks off there this June too.. not sure how they travelling fan numbers will compare but will certainly be an interesting "test event".


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 1:18 pm
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The two events will, I think, be put under a lot of pressure to push that they are not about the politics, only sport and that true fans will ignore the politics and attend no matter what. I could see them being a lot like Eurovision, with the message being that it is only about the music, despite there being an obvious political edge to how people vote.

I wonder which countries feel sufficiently aggrieved by Trump that they would stay away from either event. Smaller countries might do it for the Olympics, but it's a big ask for the athletes that have given so much for a shot at competing. I know people that have been to China for the last Winter Olympics and it was a very, very tough decision for them.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 1:30 pm
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If it was me, it wouldn't just be political grievance that would stop me going, itd be the fear of being detained without due process and essentially rendited by ICE.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 1:54 pm
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I doubt any athletes teams are going to withdraw from an event in the US, and I doubt many fans would be put off. Would be interesting if any random checks had people refused at the border due to anti Trump views.

Apparently a local Scout district has a district trip to New York and Washington in the summer. They are watching with interest, but apparently sterling is strengthening against the dollar so may be beneficial. 


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 2:13 pm
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It’s now almost a weird sport to every now again just go in the BBC (other sites are available) to asks 'What has the Trump regime done now' especially if you’ve been busy for a few hours.
The 80’s/90's Sunday Sport couldn’t make half this up.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 2:20 pm
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And France shows the United States how to deal with corrupt politicians...... you don't reward their corrupt behaviour by placing them above the law and allow them to benefit from their illegal activities.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/marine-le-pen-allies-russia-hungary-lash-out-guilty-verdict/


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 2:24 pm
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Posted by: frogstomp

The FIFA Club World Cup kicks off there this June too..

The 2026 Footy World Cup is to be hosted by US, Canada and Mexico. That will be an uncomfortable opening ceremony


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 2:25 pm
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Credit to France for being so decisive. 


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 3:52 pm
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Posted by: boomerlives

Posted by: frogstomp

The FIFA Club World Cup kicks off there this June too..

The 2026 Footy World Cup is to be hosted by US, Canada and Mexico. That will be an uncomfortable opening ceremony

Might be the one and only opening ceremony worth watching!

 


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 4:34 pm
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The Le Pen story is interesting as it's exactly what Farage did as a MEP but with zero consequences here.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 5:31 pm
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The Le Pen story is interesting as it's exactly what Farage did as a MEP but with zero consequences here.

 

It doesn't seem very far removed from what a lot of other French politicians have been up to too...

 

But I'm increasingly coming around to the view that too much democracy can be a bad thing. If someone like Le Pen needs stopping then I think the Al Capone rule can apply.

 

Good for the French judges. Even if it backfires, I think the time is right for some responsible folk to concrete their reputations as having tried to do something to arrest the slide into fascism. Even if it didn't work in the end. At some point, morality and standards have to put up a fight.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 5:39 pm
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Few weeks old now, but an interesting opinion piece from Mahbubani

https://archive.ph/wYhxv

Worth a quick read even if you don't agree with it.

 

Edit, it's his 'geopolitical take on what Europe should do next'


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 7:44 pm
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Crickey!!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx20lwedn23o


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 7:59 pm
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China, South Korea and Japan agree to boost trade together ..

 

Is Putin or Xi pulling Trumps strings?

 

I never expected USA demise to be so quick.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 8:34 pm
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I never expected USA demise to be so quick.

 

Trump is simply treating the whole of the USA as a business to short, or disable/de-value by other means, and dismantle/asset strip it, pocketing the money and leaving an empty husk behind...

 

It's literally how he operates... it should come as no supprise to anyone, really, they voted in a guy who along with being a sex offender, also has 30-odd counts of business fraud to his name - they literally voted for a Fox to manage a chicken coop?! 😣 

 


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 8:45 pm
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I'm currently reading on how significant the China/Japan/South Korea agreements are .. it's long been suggested USA are keen to focus more on Asia - but Trump appears to have made things a lot more difficult.

Many saying It's going to take decades for USA to build the trust they had just 3 months ago; others saying it's gone forever.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 9:04 pm
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Posted by: e-machine

I'm currently reading on how significant the China/Japan/South Korea agreements are .. it's long been suggested USA are keen to focus more on Asia - but Trump appears to have made things a lot more difficult.

Many saying It's going to take decades for USA to build the trust they had just 3 months ago; others saying it's gone forever.

 

Look at it this way, would you do business with an entity that has a proven track record of lies, fraud and ripping customers off?

Absolutley not, unless you had a serious amount of leverage to ensure you could force them uphold any agreement when they inevitably try to shaft you.

Of course global economics are more intertwined than that, but trade agreements, treaties etc. are ultimatley based on mutual trust and respect for all parties involved - you take that trust away and there's no sensible reason to renew any agreements or make new ones.

 

You can only act like a bully for so long before someone gives you a smack in the teeth.

 


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 9:19 pm
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Waddafak? I might have to agree with him on this one. I wonder which exec at Ticketbastard beat him at golf?

Donald Trump is set to sign an executive order today aimed at protecting fans from “exploitative ticket scalping”, a White House official said.

 


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 10:46 pm
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Could trump become vice president under someone then stab him/her in the back and get back in that way.

Impressive to get China, Japan et-al to band together and piss on your chips.


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 11:21 pm
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Could trump become vice president under someone then stab him/her in the back and get back in that way.

Impressive to get China, Japan et-al to band together and piss on your chips.

 

I think the only thing we know for sure is that he'll try something... he has a team of people working on that right now.

 

In an interview with NewsNation host Chris Cuomo Tuesday, former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon said that Maga operatives have begun working towards securing president Donald Trump a third term in 2028.

 


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 11:26 pm
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Waddafak? I might have to agree with him on this one. I wonder which exec at Ticketbastard beat him at golf?

Donald Trump is set to sign an executive order today aimed at protecting fans from “exploitative ticket scalping”, a White House official said.

 

 

im more cynical- if every so often in your executive order signing rampage you sign something which “everyone” thinks is fair, (preferably with a celeb to endorse it and make TV news) it feeds the “trump is doing good stuff that the house never get round to themselves - executive orders are good for voters” message…

 


 
Posted : 31/03/2025 11:37 pm
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Posted by: poly

Posted by: scuttler

Waddafak? I might have to agree with him on this one. I wonder which exec at Ticketbastard beat him at golf?

Donald Trump is set to sign an executive order today aimed at protecting fans from “exploitative ticket scalping”, a White House official said.

 

 

im more cynical- if every so often in your executive order signing rampage you sign something which “everyone” thinks is fair, (preferably with a celeb to endorse it and make TV news) it feeds the “trump is doing good stuff that the house never get round to themselves - executive orders are good for voters” message…

 

A broken clock is correct twice a day and all that...

Your pension is ruined and I'm taking away what health care you might already have, but hey, look on the bright side! cheaper concert tickets *maybe. 🤑 

 

He probably wanted to go to a Taylor Swift gig but didnt like the price he saw 🤣 🤣 

 


 
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Posted by: e-machine

*just a reminder - nobody suggested they wanted to see a pilot tortured and killed. It was just the typical snidey nonsensical rubbish we come to expect from relapsed_mandolin.

 

RM is an ex serviceman.   I fully understand his reaction to that post.  Its personal to him

 


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 4:36 am
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Could trump become vice president under someone then stab him/her in the back and get back in that way.

Yes, nothing in the constitution that prevents that 


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 6:15 am
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He doesn't need to stab him in the back. It could all just be prearranged and part of the campaign. New president just stands down on day 1 and let's in the VP


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 6:37 am
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Yes, nothing in the constitution that prevents that 

On the news last night they said the 22nd amendment excludes anyone who is ineligible for president becoming vice president, so there is, (currently) something to stop him. 

Currently. 


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 6:48 am
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12th amendment says "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

So that would appear to close the VP route to Trump 3?


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 6:55 am
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There seems to be no way for Trump to fiddle the constitution to get a 3rd term, that VP amendment rules out that option. 

Expect an unconstitutional "crisis" in 3....2...1....


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 7:49 am
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Apparently Hilary Clinton considered having Bill Clinton running as her VP, but reconsidered when the issue of something happening to her and Bill not being able to step up.

However, I'm sure Trump has put that law firm he recently got to agree to do $100 million of work for him to good use.


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 7:59 am
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some good news from Scotland… https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0r5wkee8z5o


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 8:18 am
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There's a second in line: Speaker of the House of Representatives.

These are the shittiest of shits so I absolutely wouldn't put it past them to arrange a situation where Trump is installed as speaker and then both President Vance and VP Musk resign in extraordinary circumstances that puts Trump back on his throne. The speaker is only president until elections can be held though, so odds on that whatever the reason Vance and Musk resign will be the reason that elections can't be held.


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 8:21 am
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……..rhubarb


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 8:27 am
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There seems to be no way for Trump to fiddle the constitution to get a 3rd term, that VP amendment rules out that option. 

Expect an unconstitutional "crisis" in 3....2...1....

Franklin D.Roosevelt served 4 terms.


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 8:34 am
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All of which were before the Amendment to limit presidents to two terms.


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 8:42 am
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He served those four before the Amendment which limited presidents to two terms.


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 8:43 am
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Posted by: dudeofdoom

Franklin D.Roosevelt served 4 terms

I think the amendment came after him - at that point it was just a convention/tradition


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 8:44 am
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All of which were before the Amendment to limit presidents to two terms.

It was also the primary reason for the amendment.

 


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 8:44 am
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Which other countries put a limit on how many times you can serve as President/Prime Minister?

The two term max thing has always felt a bit funny to me.


 
Posted : 01/04/2025 8:47 am
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Which other countries put a limit on how many times you can serve as President/Prime Minister?

The two term max thing has always felt a bit funny to me.

Most countries do. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_term_limits

 


 
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