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[quote=ninfan ]Strange, the utterly impartial huffington post managed to make an anti-Trump story out of a Trump tweet that was entirely accurate.

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More failure to read from ninfan. Everything important mentioned in the politifact assessment is mentioned in the HP article. Yes Trump's tweet might be strictly speaking accurate in what it says, but it's the usual Trump methodology of giving a totally misleading impression by being economical with the actualité. I'm sure most people reading that will think that most or even all Chevy Cruze models sold in the US are made in Mexico, as that's exactly the impression he wants to give.

I wonder if politifact can be persuaded to assess ninfan's (and maybe jamba's while they're at it) posts on STW - ninfan says "was entirely accurate", politifact (who he's basing his argument on) says "Trump’s statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information." The lack of additional information is the whole point.

ninfan
Article title

Trump Tweet Attacks A Car That’s Mainly Made In Ohio

“General Motors is sending Mexican made model of Chevy Cruze to U.S. car dealers-tax free across border,” Trump tweeted at 7:30 a.m. “Make in U.S.A. or pay big border tax!”

What prompted that tweet is puzzling.

Trump has sometimes used Twitter to respond immediately to items he sees on TV, but cable news transcripts show no mention of the Chevrolet Cruze in the early hours on Tuesday. A spokesman for GM said he had “no idea” what caught Trump’s attention. A spokesman for Trump didn’t respond to a request for comment.

and following up

Trump’s tweet reminded Hill of one that the president-elect sent in November when he falsely claimed to have worked with Ford to prevent a plant closure in Kentucky. Ford had never said it would close the plant.

“He did the same thing with Ford,” Hill said. “You say something but then after you get all the facts, you have to draw back.”

Of course, Trump didn’t retract his false Ford tweets. Instead of drawing back, Trump usually pushes ahead on some other topic, often enough with another falsehood or attack.

After he successfully bullied the air-conditioner manufacturer Carrier into keeping a factory in Indiana last month, Trump couldn’t resist inflating the number of jobs the company had said would stay. When the president of the local union corrected those numbers in a live interview on CNN, Trump, who apparently had been watching, immediately tweeted that the union leader was terrible at his job.

“A lot of it has to do with the auto industry being so public and companies in it being household names,” Acevedo said. “It makes sense that they are targeted so often.”

You could say in fact it was

It's just [s]the huff post[/s][b]Trump[/b] trying to whip up a story out of nothing, because.......

What could he be trying to deflect attention from? Isn't he getting a briefing today from the Intellegence people about something? I expect him to be live tweeting that one, maybe Julian can skype in to help explain some things.

[quote=ninfan ]It's just the huff post trying to whip up a story out of nothing, because gullible lefties never bother fact-checking anti-Trump stories, they just jump on the bandwagon, like you did.

Except as I just pointed out, HP fact checked their own story with just as much rigour as politifact fact checked the tweet. Could you point out to me what exactly is inaccurate about the HP story? Maybe whilst you're at it you could explain whether the Trump tweet gives an accurate impression of the facts?

p.s. I'm only a leftie in comparison to you, jamba, Trump and Hitler

Assange's views are highly relevant as it was Wiki which published her emails. Clinton's emails contained her iPad password for certain, not hard to imagine a whole lot more security info too.

jambalaya - Member
Assange's views are highly relevant as it was Wiki which published her emails.

Yes Trump's tweet might be strictly speaking accurate in what it says

Exactly

Beyond that it's all just leftie jumping-up-and-down noise

I'm sure most people reading that will think...

Ah, stupid people you mean, proles, who have to be protected from themselves by the righteous left...

The lack of additional information is the whole point.

Only if you want to try and make a story out of nothing because you're still upset you lost the election

The lack of additional information is the whole point.
Only if you want to try and make a story out of nothing because you're

[quote=ninfan ]Ah, stupid people you mean, proles, who have to be protected from themselves by the righteous left...

OK, so taken in isolation what interpretation would a highly intelligent person like you make of Trump's tweet? I note that those insulting words about ordinary people are your words not mine, I made no such suggestion or even insinuation.

Only if you want to try and make a story out of nothing because you're still upset you lost the election

I'm assuming you missed my second post, as you're surely not ignoring it. So I'll repeat my questions:

Could you point out to me what exactly is inaccurate about the HP story? Maybe whilst you're at it you could explain whether the Trump tweet gives an accurate impression of the facts?

He is making a deliberatly inflamatory statement that way exceeds the scale of the alleged issue.

Where?

[i]“General Motors is sending Mexican made model of Chevy Cruze to U.S. car dealers-tax free across border,” [/i]

Where does that indicate the 'scale of the alleged issue'

It doesn't

It's a simple, bland, factual statement

Anything about 'scale' is entirely in your own mindset, its not in any way indicated in his tweet. You've either read it into it yourself, or absorbed it from the spin in the Huff posts presentation and their agenda

read the actual post, and it's [b]impossible[/b] to read the 'scale' you suggest into it.

Could you point out to me what exactly is inaccurate about the HP story? Maybe whilst you're at it you could explain whether the Trump tweet gives an accurate impression of the facts?

AS I have said several times above, they have built a story out of nothing, it's entirely built out of an 'interpretation' of the tweet seeking to portray that it said or implied more than it actually said. It intoned a spin that you cannot imply from Trumps actual tweet,

Trumps tweet was entirely accurate, anything beyond what he actually said is hype

What is inaccurate about the HP story, ninfan?

Where did I say the HP story was inaccurate aracer?

[quote=ninfan ]It intoned a spin that you cannot imply from Trumps actual post

That's a pretty good spin even for you. So you're suggesting it's totally impossible to imply from Trump's tweet that all Chevy Cruzes sold in the US are imported from Mexico? 🙄

Actually with that I'm going to take back my suggestion that you're highly intelligent until such time as you admit to the only other possible interpretation.

ninfan - Member

"Fake-News from the lefties"

"gullible lefties"

"it's all just leftie jumping-up-and-down noise"

"the righteous left"

You really are tedious ninfan. But then I guess being tedious and attempting to wind-up people is your intention - it presumably makes you feel ever so clever.

So you're suggesting it's totally impossible to imply from Trump's tweet that all Chevy Cruzes sold in the US are imported from Mexico?

Yes, I would say it's entirely impossible to [b]imply[/b] that from the words Trump tweeted

But then I guess being tedious and attempting to wind-up people is your intention - it presumably makes you feel everso clever.

Cleverer than bandwagon jumping anti Trump lefties who have to make things up and rely on things that they think, miht, possibly, somehow, perhaps be [u]implied[/u] to attack him, because they still can't handle the fact that in two weeks he becomes the most powerful man in the world 😆

Still, it's remarkable how, despite being so tedious, the sad sack lefties always rise to the bait, isn't it Ernie? See, even you crawled out from under your bridge to hop up and down in desperation.

In a world with out 1 and 0 as the answers to everything ninfan.
Why would suddenly the production of 4,500 cars catch the eye of the President Elect, what made him think I must tweet about that. As noted in the very well researched article there was nothing in any new coverage around that time.

AS I have said several times above, they have built a story out of nothing, it's entirely built out of an 'interpretation' of the tweet seeking to portray that it said or implied more than it actually said. It intoned a spin that you cannot imply from Trumps actual tweet,

If you want to contest every statement as a pedant/troll then go for it[b] but the real part is why was this said, why now?[/b] He has a well documented history of using twitter outbursts as a magician uses distraction for the slight of hand tricks. While you are looking at cars in Mexico (well the US really) nobody is looking at something else. The 2 stories I linked to tell you more, he is having to backtrack a bit on jumping in with Assange (because he said something he liked) which will not go down well with any of the Republicans let alone a lot of his supporters. He is about to get his security briefing despite claiming to have all of the answers already and know with all certainty that there is nothing suspicious going on at all.

You have fallen hook line and sinker for the bait ninfan, running off to argue a case (as pointed out the HP article was very factual and opened witht he lines questioning why drop that now)

Expect a lot more of this as Trump needs to cover business dealings, intelligence briefings and some seriously dodgy looking nominations in the next few days.

Edit
There we go
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-06/donald-trump-gives-deposition-against-chef-amid-legal-battles/8165204
That is what else is going on today

[quote=ninfan ]Where did I say the HP story was inaccurate aracer?

Given you're struggling to remember what you wrote recently and is on the last page still, here's a reminder:

[quote=ninfan ]More Fake-News from the lefties eh Mike...

Though we could always just try this question: where did anybody say the Trump tweet was inaccurate?

Expect a lot more of this as Trump needs to cover business dealings, intelligence briefings and some seriously dodgy looking nominations in the next few days.

Why, what are they going to do? Cancel his inauguration? 😆

[quote=ninfan ]Yes, I would say it's entirely impossible to imply that from the words Trump tweeted

Well if you really believe that then I definitely retract my assessment of your intelligence. Though I'm bored now - this one ranks alongside the way you always protest that something isn't racist because the people being attacked or discriminated against aren't a race, as if that makes everything OK.

[quote=ernie_lynch ]You really are tedious ninfan. But then I guess being tedious and attempting to wind-up people is your intention - it presumably makes you feel ever so clever.

It's quite telling that he seems to need to feel clever - I'd hope you find it amusing that he appears to be referring to me amongst others with his "leftie" jibes!

Why, what are they going to do? Cancel his inauguration?

I belive at the time not many saw this coming but by then end it was seen as inevitable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_process_against_Richard_Nixon

No I don't find the leftie jibes amusing aracer, even when used against you. Ninfan is like a stuck badly worn vinyl record with his tediously predictable "leftie" jibes.

He really ought to think of something else to say. But I suspect that he lacks the intellectual capacity and imagination to do so. It's sad really.

I'd say it's telling that you now admit the entire story relies on something that you [b]think[/b] was [b]implied[/b] rather than anything that was actually said.

Funny though, lots of leftie stories seem to rely on them extrapolating what people actually say into what their own twisted little mindset leads them to think someone might have actually meant.

No wonder they keep losing elections

[quote=ninfan ]I'd say it's telling that you now admit the entire story relies on something that you think was implied rather than anything that was actually said.

I'm guessing you either still think what was implied is unimportant, or more likely you're simply in denial as usual.

[quote=ernie_lynch ]He really ought to think of something else to say. But I suspect that he lacks the intellectual capacity and imagination to do so. [s]It's sad really.[/s] Sad.

Fixed 😉

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To be fair, sometimes it's hard to work out what he is going on about anway.
What you seem to be missing/trolling is the intent behind his tweets, isn't it strange he hasn't said much puiblically. For instance a well briefed reporter on the Car issue would have replied - it's only a time sub section of the sales of a car that is nearly all sold outside of the US. While on twitter he can leave people to make up their own minds.
On intelligence he is really flipping all over the place
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So big fan of intellegence but tweets that it's "perhaps more time needed to build a case Very Strange" that they need more time? What is he implying here, that they are note sure what happened? Leaving people to doubt the intellegence community?
He did manage to give the opinion he was directly quoting Assange as if to agree with him (well I'm sure ninfan and jamby didn't get that one)

aracer - Member

I'm guessing you either still think what was implied is unimportant, or more likely you're simply in denial as usual.

Funnily enough the Telegraph, sometimes referred to as the Torygraph, but never the Leftiegraph, felt that what was implied was quite important. This is what they told their readers :

[i]"Mr Trump tweeted to CM that he would slap a tax on the company importing compact cars to the US from Mexico.

But GM makes the vast majority of compact Chevrolet Cruzes in Lordstown, Ohio, near Cleveland".[/i]

Notice the use of the word "but", it clearly suggests that the Telegraph considered that Trump's tweet might give the wrong impression.

Although I fully expect ninfan to inform us the [i]Torygraph[/i] is also part of the "leftie" conspiracy.

[quote=ernie_lynch ]Although I fully expect ninfan to inform us the Torygraph is also part of the "leftie" conspiracy.

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Although I fully expect ninfan to inform us the Torygraph is also part of the "leftie" conspiracy.

What you seem to be missing/trolling is the intent behind his tweets

How do you know what the intent behind his tweets is?

What makes you so sure that your interpretation is correct?

You are hopping up and down saying 'this is what he means' without ever having met the bloke.

although you might like to think you are 'interpreting' you neither recognise and admit your own inherent biases and how they might lead to to the wrong conclusion, or admit that in reality you are just guessing.

Drawing conclusions as to what someone else's intent is not only inherently unreliable, but doing it about someone who is diametrically opposed to you both culturally and politically is exponentially more so.

Lets see, why would he be pointing way over on the left of screen at the momnet
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-intercepts-capture-senior-russian-officials-celebrating-trump-win/2017/01/05/d7099406-d355-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?utm_term=.52a3068c33f8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/top-us-cyber-officials-russia-poses-a-major-threat-to-the-countrys-infrastructure-and-networks/2017/01/05/36a60b42-d34c-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?utm_term=.615bd90abba5
http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/us/politics/taking-aim-at-trump-leaders-strongly-affirm-findings-on-russian-hacking.html

How do you know what the intent behind his tweets is?

What makes you so sure that your interpretation is correct?

Drawing conclusions as to what someone else's intent is is inherently unreliable, doing it about someone who is diametrically opposed to you both culturally and politically is exponentially more so.

So top of his list is attacking the motor industry, as said there was nothing new about the GM info, it wasn't an expose, it wasn't a headline anywhere but he picked it up and flung it out there (mixed in with all that is a one liner about a press conference on the 11th of Jan)

It should at least lead people to ask why, to dig deeper and question, instead you decide to dismiss it out of hand as fake news (it wasn't) leftie knicker twisting (it wasn't) and then go on to debate the exact wording and intent (you seem to know what it's all about). How about you take a step back and look at the bigger picture here?

Do you not find it strange he doesn't engage with a media form he doesn't control? Twitter allows him to shout and delete the ones he doesn't like. He claims the MSM hate him but he won't speak to them. Imagine how the interview would have gone with a serious journalist.
DT - GM are making cars in Mexico and selling them to the US
Journo - How many
DT Many, lots, many so many so lots many
Journo - it's 4,500
DT Still Bad, very bad people
Journo - How much do Trump businesses import into the US and will you be happy to move that production back to the US
DT - Toyota are going to build a factory in Mexico - bad, very bad
Journo - In your failed University programme you stated that it was nessacary at times to move things off shore - is that still the case
DT - The Media Hate Me

[quote=ninfan ]How do you know what the intent behind his tweets is?
What makes you so sure that your interpretation is correct?

Because that's the way he works, and it's also the way any ordinary person would interpret it (including highly intelligent ones, though excluding the deluded fanbois). As ernie points out it's also the way that notorious leftie newspaper and home of the remoaners <sarcasm alert> the daily torygraph interprets it.

Ninfan in imagining you're amazed by magicians as you don't seem to understand misdirection. Much like real magic, Trumps intelligence and policies don't exist behind the thin film of smoke and ill fitting suits.

Some people really are unhappy in life aren't they...Big cuddles to the angry ones I reckon.

gullible lefties never bother fact-checking

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ooops

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/01/05/former-cia-director-james-woolsey-quits-trump-transition-team/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.2fb15ee2a43b

kimbers - Member

ooops

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/01/05/former-cia-director-james-woolsey-quits-trump-transition-team/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.2fb15ee2a43b

Crikey Washingtonpost a severely biased one sided news that was so biased they look credible.

And the Mexican are not paying for the wall anymore!
US tax payer are .

ninfan » How do you know what the intent behind his tweets is?
What makes you so sure that your interpretation is correct?

aracer - Because that's the way he works

😆 so what makes you so sure of that? Let me guess, a newspaper said so? (And as for the once proud Torygraph, when did that become pro-Trump?

chewkw - Crikey Washingtonpost a severely biased one sided news that was so biased they look credible.

Watch it chewy, they'll be along with a completely unbiased CNN report to support it in a minute

When will grown ups realise that ****ter is best left to kids to play with?

cchris2lou - Member
And the Mexican are not paying for the wall anymore!
US tax payer are .

The Mexican will pay ... 🙄

why is "the Donald" so anti the US Intellegence agencies? They have given him plenty opportunities to say (on ****ter if he likes) "That Putin chap he's a bit of a rascal meddling in our affairs but I would have won anyway so who cares now". He's protesting far too much and belittling his own side makes it looks like he's guilty of/hiding something. Maybe he doesn't want to piss Vlad off too much just in case he replies "Hey Donald I was only doing what you asked me too" 😉

he is doing it because he is a bully and he is used to bullying his employees or sacking them so he will try to shout them down as that is the sort of person he is.

he will take this mentality into government and it wont work well as some of them are there to serve the country with honesty and integrity rather than do what he says to get the paycheck

He probably has never encountered folk who cannot be bought so he may be in for a rude awakening- actually both sides might

Agreed re his reasons and his denials and using Assange as evidence whilst ignoring the countries own agencies is bordering on delusional madness.

I suspect he will be at war with his party and his agencies in a very short period of time- he may even be there before being sworn in

Perhaps because he's not daft enough to think that if the US castigated Russia for it, Russia wouldn't immediatley turn round and accuse the US of hypocrisy by pointing out a long, long list of American mis-deeds and tampering in elections worldwide for decades?

Are any of you really naive enough to believe that this isn't what both sides have been doing for donkeys years? Are any of you really stupid enough to not see that not only has Russia got exactly the same type of plausible deniability in place that the Americans have used for years (there is no smoking gun, it's all inferred and suggestions and stuff routed past third, fourth and even fifth parties). Is anyone daft enough to think that the Russians haven't already manoeuvred themselves to reveal proof of American tampering in the Ukraine elections as soon as the US tries to criticise?

I've stayed away from this thread 'cos blood pressure but this made me LOL so I thought i'd share...

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So why USA going public on Russian hacking?

So why USA going public on Russian hacking?

Because pork barrel politics still counts for a lot in the US, and lots of people in what is commonly called the 'military industrial complex' have jobs that rely on military spending, and lots of US politicians constituents have jobs and business interests that rely on military bases, factories etc. for their living.

They desperately need a new Cold War to keep this going, now that the war on terror is, essentially, winding down, and they are worried that Trump will slash military spending by reigning in US international military commitments

Trump is absolutely right in his approach of hammering all those low energy politicians. Those politicians haven't had it so good for so long so deserve all the hammering. Good on Trump. He should hammer them harder.

wwaswas - Member
I've stayed away from this thread 'cos blood pressure but this made me LOL so I thought i'd share...

That's brilliant. Absolutely good that ... at least in that photo shop he showed some interest in PM May. Yea, grab that. On the other hand even if low energy Merkel or Mrs Clinton offer to be grabbed I doubt Trump will even be bothered to go anyway close ... Nobody wants to grab them even when they are free. 😆

ninfan - Member
Watch it chewy, they'll be along with a completely unbiased CNN report to support it in a minute

where the hell did that photo come from? 😀

RE Fake News/Hacking/Misdirection...... @1:25+

teamhurtmore - Member
where the hell did that photo come from?

thm

I shared that on facebook and a trumper had a go at me for it, next thing you know it was taken down for showing a sexual assult!

'O the ironing

In Merica there is so much fake news they have become way of life. Some are so good they sound credible and some low energy media who are so lazy to get their own news or too slow, due to low energy, to get their own news they practically use other fake news. 😆

Chewkw I think the low energy key on your keyboard is stuck.

akira - Member
Chewkw I think the [b][u]low energy[/u][/b] key on your keyboard is stuck.

That is a legitimate term used by President-Elect Trump. It's true. The description is true. 😆

In Merica there is so much fake news they have become way of life. Some are so good they sound credible and some low energy media who are so lazy to get their own news or too slow, due to low energy, to get their own news they practically use other fake news.

Ah I see, let me try. Trump's interest in facts is low energy. Did I use it right? I rather like it you know.

So how will president-elect snowflake react when being presented with evidence of the Russian agents passing info to wikileaks?
likewise the intercepted comms of russians celebrating their success?

will his ego be able to handle it or will he just fire everyone at the CIA?

lets hope hes not got any low energy later today, or we could be in for some trouble 😉

I see in other news Mexico wont be paying for his wall ($12-25bn) , itll be the american taxpayer....

@kimbers probably laugh his arse off that the Democrats security was so lax.

Michelle Obama just gave her farewell address / pitch for 2020 Democratic Nomination. Hats off to her she is a tremdous speaker (also Chapeau to Facebook live / Channel 4 news can watch the speech directly and not rely on "reporting")

Michelle Obama just gave her farewell address / pitch for 2020 Democratic Nomination. Hats off to her she is a tremdous speaker (also Chapeau to Facebook live / Channel 4 news can watch the speech directly and not rely on "reporting")

🙂

why is "the Donald" so anti the US Intellegence agencies?

I don't think he is, mainstream media reporting again. My 2 cents is he is p.ssed at Obama trying to deligitismse his win by saying "the Russians did it", the agencies have played along with that, as Assange says the disclaimer on the intelligence reprts says something like "this may not be true". A lot of Americans distrust the agencies not least for the Iraq WMD stuff. Trump is really challenging the Russian stories amd their credibility, imo rightly so.
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akira - Member
Ah I see, let me try. [b][u]Trump's interest in facts is low energy[/u][/b]. Did I use it right? I rather like it you know.

kimbers - Member

So how will [b][u]president-elect snowflake[/u][/b] react when being presented with evidence of the Russian agents passing info to wikileaks?

captainsasquatch - Member
I'll sit and wait for the[b][u] Melania version[/u][/b], it'll be less classy, but more or less the same.

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Low-energy detected ...

ninfan - Member

And as for the once proud Torygraph, when did that become pro-Trump?

More importantly when did the Torygraph become a leftie newspaper?

Or is ninfan now backtracking on his claim that all those who are critical of Trump must be "lefties".

RE Lax security - some peeps disagree:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/14-year-old-hack-john-podesta-emails_uk_586e22f0e4b0c1c826fa5510?utm_hp_ref=uk

"However Matt Tait, a information security researcher who posts under the Twitter name Pwn All The Things, has issued a new analysis to prove Assange’s claim false.

Tait tweeted: “Could [a 14-year-old] have? Sure. Did hack? No. Let me go through why not.”"

The 14 year old thing was from fox news, assange and trump,- 3 shininning examples of batshittery if ever there was

Of course trump is upset he's about to be inaugurated, he's so toxic no one will play at the ceremony, alec baldwins version of him has higher approval ratings and the intelligence services are saying Putin helped get him his job.
His colossal (high energy) ego and paper thin orange skin will be hurt that the only people that will be cheering for him are deplorables, the ex democrats that voted for him did so with a heavy heart and even his own party hate him.

Interesting times

I see Trump has his twitter finger on the most pressing issues of the moment.

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38531417 ]Donald Trump taunts Schwarzenegger over Celebrity Apprentice ratings[/url]

Trump is a ****ing narcissistic muppet so it's going to be interesting to see what happens to his Presidency when he finally sinks his orange arse into the oval office, that's if he even gets that far before he starts throwing his toys out of the pram.

somafunk - Member
Donald Trump taunts Schwarzenegger over Celebrity Apprentice ratings

Trump is right because Arnold used to be a bodybuilder who got a break in Conan so apart from that what business does Arnold run successfully? Completely wrong person to be chosen for this role.

More importantly when did the Torygraph become a leftie newspaper?

About the time the Tories did

Or is ninfan now backtracking on his claim that all those who are critical of Trump must be "lefties".

As already pointed out, they're all Lefties to me and my best mates Milo and Dan

////////I keep reading it, but it makes no sense////////

sorry ninfan

Trump is right because Arnold used to be a bodybuilder who got a break in Conan so apart from that what business does Arnold run successfully?

More importantly when did the Torygraph become a leftie newspaper?

You're missing the point ernie. Apparently for criticism of Trump to be valid according to ninfan it has to come from a pro Trump source. Which presumably means breitbart and @realDonaldTrump 😆

captainsasquatch - Member

Trump is right because Arnold used to be a bodybuilder who got a break in Conan so apart from that what business does Arnold run successfully?

You haven't thought that through, have you?

////////I keep reading it, but it makes no sense////////

sorry ninfan

Ninfan is saying that anyone who doesn't agree with him is a "leftie".

Whilst that comment might not make a lot of sense to most normal people I'm sure it does to ninfan.

It's an attitude which he shares with Republican Tea Party activists. For example they consider Obama to be a Communist, which is ludicrous to most people but makes complete sense to them.

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Although to be fair Americans on the far right like ninfan use the term "liberals" in the way he uses "lefties".

Although to be fair Americans on the far right like ninfan use the term "liberals" in the way he uses "lefties".

you're behind the times old man, its all about the Trigglypuffs, Snowflakes, Cucks and SJW's now

Trump is right Arnold is not suitable for that role ...

cucks?

CUCKS?

Bloody 4chan! /pol/ has a lot to answer for. Even m00t ragequit in the end.

captainsasquatch - Member

Trump is right Arnold is not suitable for that role ...

I think it's more worrying that you claim to have thought about it and have still come to the same conclusion.

The question is what do you have to add to those opinions? Trump is right.

At least Trumps now accepted that the Russians did the hacking.

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wwaswas - Member
At least Trumps now accepted that the Russians did the hacking.

But obvs, it didn't help him win 😉
He would never admit to being Putin's poodle

Meanwhile Trump is able to make Schwarzenegger look like the smart guy

https://mobile.twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/817386622299705349

captainsasquatch - Member

The question is what do you have to add to those opinions? Trump is right.

The question is that a self made multi millionaire hosts a charity show while a mediocre businessman is set to be the figurehead of the most powerful nation in the world. Fortunately the muppet will be held back by real politicians. I've already said what I think of Trump followers.

The fan of Arnold ^^^ ... In the 70s and early 80s I used red Muscle and Fitness where Arnold was often seen posing with Joe Weider and Franco Columbu so I guess he must have done well. He was an muscle idol then ... 😆

The question is when are you going to say anything meaningful.

Previous administration has been rejected so what is not clear about that? What meaningful stuff do you want from that? The people don't want them no matter what they (previous admin) are selling or what they are saying ...

wwaswas - Member
At least Trumps now accepted that the Russians did the hacking.