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The questions are being finalised for the next debate.
Comments above about how he will clear off as soon as the election is lost, I'm not so sure, I think he may concentrate his last couple of months on as much wrecking and destruction as possible. A whirlwind political orange baby tantrum if you will.
So, has the Donald confounded us all and recovered in record time...?!
Praise the Lord,it's a miracle
Comments above about how he will clear off as soon as the election is lost, I’m not so sure, I think he may concentrate his last couple of months on as much wrecking and destruction as possible. A whirlwind political orange baby tantrum if you will.
That's my concern. It's looking like the US are going to be hit hard with another COVID wave Nov onwards, last thing you need is a self-imploding Trump's administration - not that they could do much worse I guess.
So the Pence/Harris debate looks to have had little impact, which is what Biden would want? Neither of them answered a question they were asked, Pence came across as mansplaining so won't go down well with the female vote. A fly was the highlight.
https://twitter.com/TeamJoe/status/1314041430382272514
Regeneron - isn't it based on giving you other people's antibodies?
It's really only a step away from harvesting humans for their blood.
Really it's pretty obvious where this is going.
Comments above about how he will clear off as soon as the election is lost, I’m not so sure, I think he may concentrate his last couple of months on as much wrecking and destruction as possible.
Yes, the sensible thing to do would be to issue pardons for all his family and friends, then quit and have Pence issue a blanket pardon for him. In reality, I think he's going to go completely off the rails and refuse to accept that he lost. Whatever is left of the Republican Party might be a bunch of nutters, but I think most of the cabinet secretaries and staff will know the game is up and tender their resignations in the hope that they can salvage political careers from the wreckage. Key thing will be whether Justice Department career staff and military staff quit rather than follow a crazy man.
It’s really only a step away from harvesting
humansaborted fetuses for their blood.
FTFY
Regeneron – isn’t it based on giving you other people’s antibodies?
I thought it was synthetic, manufactured? But yes, based on other people's (and animals) immune response.
'To develop REGN-COV2, Regeneron scientists evaluated thousands of fully-human antibodies produced by the company's VelocImmune® mice, which have been genetically modified to have a human immune system, as well as antibodies identified from humans who have recovered from COVID-19.'
Yes, the sensible thing to do would be to issue pardons for all his family and friends, then quit and have Pence issue a blanket pardon for him.
You can't pardon him if he hasn't been prosecuted. So his opponents would just have to wait a bit before launching proceedings.
You can’t pardon him if he hasn’t been prosecuted.
Apparently..you can pre-emptively issue a pardon. Strange but true.
The important thing is that a president can only pardon federal crimes, not ones being prosecuted at state level, such as the Southern District of New York, which has a few indictments ready to go, I suspect.
Also didn't somebody say earlier presidential pardons are only for federal crimes? The Trump family's issues are with NY state.
How is that vastly different to a blood infusion - ‘you can have something of mine that I don’t need’.
Though the name Regeneron does have dystopian ‘human factory’ overtones.
If he was preemptively pardoned as the incumbent president presume that would only serve to show how massive a shit show this whole thing is.
Regeneron's antibody treatment was developed using embryonic stem cell research. Which will probably be glossed over slightly by the president, I'm guessing.
I'd like to point out that I predicted he would come out of hospital and do an infomercial for a miracle cure - I was pretty much right.
You were very much right.
You can’t pardon him if he hasn’t been prosecuted.
Aside from that is precisely what happened with Nixon.
Although I did see an argument that this was on shaky ground and basically worked by it not being challenged legally.
I’d like to point out that I predicted he would come out of hospital and do an infomercial for a miracle cure – I was pretty much right.
Beware the soothsayer. Lot's of us saw that coming.
The question is how much of it was bullshit, was he actually ill or just had an asymptomatic case and the rest was all staged (going to hospital, getting 'cured') to help his cause
He was ill. And probably will be for some time to come. He's in (very) safe hands though.
You can’t pardon him if he hasn’t been prosecuted.
Bigger problem for Trump is that if you accept a pardon, you apparently lose the right to refuse to answer questions on the grounds of self-incrimination, so you can be compelled to testify and face charges of contempt or perjury if you are uncooperative. What the Trump family fear more than anything else is having all their secrets exposed so a pardon will make things really interesting.
He was ill. And probably will be for some time to come. He’s in (very) safe hands though.
His stage makeup seems to be getting thicker and thicker. In that latest vid his face had that pumped up look I recognise from my FIL when he was on steroids.
'President Trump renewed his attacks on China, telling Americans: "You're not going to pay for it. It wasn't your fault that this happened. It was China's fault. And China is going to pay a big price. This was China's fault."'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54455040
Stirring up racial hatred to distract from his own failings. What a despicable excuse for a human being.
Stirring up racial hatred to distract from his own failings
Just replaying his greatest hits ( "Who's going to pay for the Wall?") out of desperation.
Just on the subject of where the antibodies come from: From the RECOVERY trial of various medications:
Low-dose Dexamethasone (now only recruiting children)
Azithromycin (a commonly used antibiotic)
Tocilizumab (an anti-inflammatory treatment given by injection)
Convalescent plasma (collected from donors who have recovered from COVID-19 and contains antibodies against the SARS-CoV-2 virus)
REGN-COV2 (a combination of monoclonal antibodies directed against coronavirus).
Convalescent plasma is the 'human farms' thing (although it's basically just giving blood). Hard to do on a large scale and inherent risks of (as yet unknown) blood-borne viruses. You'd receive every antibody that person has floating around their blood, including all the millions that offer no help at all.
Regeneron is where they've chosen a selection of antibodies and produced them in large quantities (these things are usually done using a genetically-modified bacteria, but I don't know too much about the specifics of this one).
Anyway, they're different.
The idea of Trump being prosecuted after he leaves the White House is a far-flung fantasy IMO.
Stirring up racial hatred to distract from his own failings. What a despicable excuse for a human being.
I still believe that the real Trump died in 1987 or else is in hiding on an Island in the Sun. Whatever. The ‘Trump‘ that we see today is in reality a #deepcover animatronic puppet-suit-tank
The Trump is normally operated by incumbent Commander Nigeheil Farce-Rage. And yes I’ve seen them together, this is because Farce-Rage has lackeys who can do a stint in the ‘Garage’ at a moment’s notice. Clever. Hatie Plopkins is also rumoured to be a notable operative, evidenced by her recent shade-upgrade from the neck-up. (White-Power was never so orange!)
#britishexceptionalism
#spwnage
The idea of Trump being prosecuted after he leaves the White House is a far-flung fantasy IMO.
So that means we can go back to hoping he snuffs it.
@Superficial I didn’t think the REGN-COV2 arm was open yet?
My quote was just from the RECOVERY trial website ( https://www.recoverytrial.net)
I'm not sure if the Regeneron arm is active yet but it's coming soon-ish AIUI. I work with people who facilitate RECOVERY, so although I'm not involved at all I get some gossip intermittently.
So that means we can go back to hoping he snuffs it.
I think he needs to be thoroughly beaten in the election and ideally publicly, universally, disgraced after it. If he dies, he'll become a martyr figure for some and Don Jr will take over.
....and the bag of rats that is Don Jr, Don Jr III, Brenda, Ivanika and that smug **** she is married to would hopefully tear each other to pieces.
Regeneron’s antibody treatment was developed using embryonic stem cell research. Which will probably be glossed over slightly by the president, I’m guessing.
That would kill a lot of his support - is it public?
Regeneron’s antibody treatment was developed using embryonic stem cell research. Which will probably be glossed over slightly by the president, I’m guessing.
That would kill a lot of his support – is it public?
Embryos aren't allowed to vote.
Keep the polls coming hols2... keep us hoping...
Biden has said he'll do the virtual debate, press claiming Trump said no (although he was talking about the debate rule changes I think, not virtual).
This is an interesting read from someone who was given dexamethasone.
If you read how it made him feel and then watch this, there are some interesting parallels!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313959702104023
And a few people have pointed out the the right side of his face is looking odd in the Twitter video
Just seen the 'miracle from god' vid on the news. I know he's normally fairly orange....but jaysus! The difference in colour between his hands and face is insane!!!!
It'll be interesting to see how Biden's camp goads Trump for not appearing in the debate. Trump is scared, they should absolutely flay him for it and make sure all his supporters see how he's running away from a battle. The facade is crumbling.
Or, more likely, he'll do a U-turn and participate, and he'll say he was just joking, or referring to a specific obscure rule change or whatever. Deflect to cover up the fact that he said something stupid. Actually, that should be his campaign slogan.
We can't really compare Nixon's resignation and subsequent pardoning with what we have today - because Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew found himself in a spot of legal bother so the speaker was next in line, hence Gerald Ford taking over as a caretaker president until the '76 election. Ford had to draw a line under Watergate and restore public confidence in the office of the president, therefore he had little to lose by pardoning Nixon.
Assuming that Trump is either incapacitated or deemed to be unfit then the only option available has to be Mike Pence, who has all the charisma of a freshly laid dog turd and half of the charm.
This is an interesting read from someone who was given dexamethasone.
I've not had that particular corticosteroid but I have recently been on a VERY high dose of another one and yeah making you feel 20 years younger is pretty much spot on. I felt bloody brilliant when I was taking them at the high dose. So so much energy. More than I've had in decades.
The come down has been less good but hey ho a price has to be paid for these things.
Did Pence submit a negative Covid test prior to the debate? Couldn't help noticing he had conjunctivitis (an uncommonly recorded Covid symptom), and insisted on being seated rather than standing behind the lectern. And obviously, flies can smell death and decay from miles away.
He was at the super-spreader event in the Rose Garden, and a couple of others too.
President Donald Trump said this morning that he will not participate in a virtual debate against Joe Biden, essentially pulling out of next week’s town-hall style event
There we go, he’s far more ill than the carefully controlled video clips let on. He needed those debates to win. Plan B, to stay in power even after a loss, kicks in now…