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Truth is somewhere in the middle?
WTF does that mean in the context of my post regarding maga? You do post utter bollox so back on the ignore for you
billabong. what you need is education and empathy
Similar to what someone else posted earlier, if the enemy was dressed in military uniform and shooting at my family then I'd have no hesitation in picking up a rifle and shooting back.
Trump and his supporters have made no bones that they don't want people like my son to exist, the fact they're doing it with legislation from behind a lecturn doesn't change it massively in my eyes, maybe that i wouldn't advocate violence as the response but do i wish they didn't exist, absolutely. Am I sorry when one falls off a ladder and dies, or if Trump has a coronary - I can't say I hugely am.
And to me there isn't 'some middle' with the extremists I'm afraid. I posted a while back about the train journey my wife and daughter had into London on the day of the Unite the Kingdom marches. I'm sure some folks on that train would also say they don't support the extreme views but on the other hand 'there are some conversations to be had'. They need to find a way to have those conversations without being literally and figuratively on the same train as a crowd of racist, homophobic, misogynistic arseholes chanting about kicking the ****s out - because you can't be part in with them, you're on that train and all in as far as I'm concerned.
Do I wish you dead, or advocate for violence against you - I don't really know your views overall but I suspect I wish people with those views didn't exist.
(actually, I think you are at least part trolling, but point is the same)
Where's the middle ground with those that want migrants left to drown at sea (for the UK version) or are happy to see a masked paramilitary group authorized to break into people's houses without warrants and think machine gunning migrants crossing the border is a good thing to do?
Where's the middle ground with those that want migrants left to drown at sea (for the UK version) or are happy to see a masked paramilitary group authorized to break into people's houses without warrants and think machine gunning migrants crossing the border is a good thing to do?
Both are wrong, and need stopping. But wishing death on all of them just lowers us to their gutter level.
Who exactly wished death? Did I miss that part?
Both are wrong, and need stopping. But wishing death on all of them just lowers us to their gutter level.
I know that. But what you've posted isn't an answer to the question.
Where's the middle ground with those that want migrants left to drown at sea (for the UK version)
It's probably not the middle ground that is needed. The wider plot, outside of the current systems and processes stoking division, hatred and inequality, a plot which makes them seem small petty and plainly completely utterly stupid.
You don't need to be Ghandi to understand fighting hatred with hatred doesn't reduce hatred.
You don't need to be Ghandi to understand fighting hatred with hatred doesn't reduce hatred.
Exactly.
There is no moral equivalency between fascism and fighting against fascism. There is no moral equivalency between those who use power and wealth to destroy lives and communities and those who want that stopped. There is no moral equivalency between those who use the economy to destroy lives, cause suffering, break up families, deny possible medical care and kill hundreds and thousands every day by political choice, ands those who just wish they would **** off and die to stop that destruction and suffering.
This fake moral outrage by those who pretend to care, but put a veneer over the bullying, the suffering and the deaths can **** off as well. I bet you all went online to say how great Carney's speach was at Davos, talked about it with your mates, and then went straight back to living the lie, ignoring the suffering your pretend morality gives tacit approval to .
and then went straight back to living the lie, ignoring the suffering your pretend morality gives tacit approval to
as opposed to...?
I look forward to old Nigel distancing himself from Trump's comments..
Not to mention old Starmer.
Your wish is his command, apparently
Starmer says it was 'insulting and, frankly, appalling' for Trump to imply Nato allies did not fight properly in Afghanistan
According to the news Trump has praised the UK troops who served and gave their lives in Afghanistan
That led by donkeys video is satire isn't it? I can't tell anymore.
This fake moral outrage by those who pretend to care, but put a veneer over the bullying, the suffering and the deaths can **** off as well.
So how come then, that amongst my recent posts on this thread, it's where I've voiced my opinion that hatred isn't useful that has drawn your response, yet where I have linked to information about how the Peace Board is essentially investors happily planning to build a resort on top of the dead and buried of Gaza... Not a dickie bird.
looks like a straight up execution of a guy
theyd already taken his gun off him shot him several times then shot him at least 5 mote times once he was down
https://bsky.app/profile/bellingcat.com/post/3md6vloqxbk2t
looks like a straight up execution of a guy
They literally have no fear of repercussions. It will only get worse from here.
According to the news Trump has praised the UK troops who served and gave their lives in Afghanistan
Well thats one country appeased (like ****) but what about everyone else like, ohhh, Denmark who proportionally took heavier casualties.
Having seen his "praise" it is also pretty clear the ****wit didnt write it. Whilst it is childish it doesnt quite hit the mark.
Miller will get his wish and Trump will invoke the insurrection act
looks like a straight up execution of a guy
theyd already taken his gun off him shot him several times then shot him at least 5 mote times once he was down
Just Seen the vids on Reddit, this is insane.
According to the news Trump has praised the UK troops who served and gave their lives in Afghanistan
Well thats one country appeased (like ****) but what about everyone else like, ohhh, Denmark who proportionally took heavier casualties.
Having seen his "praise" it is also pretty clear the ****wit didnt write it. Whilst it is childish it doesnt quite hit the mark.
The ramp ceremony that put these men on their plane home was the first I ever attended, it was the start of many to come over the years. We'd only been in country a week, still on acclimatisation before moving north. For obvious reasons this is the only one of our allies ceremonies I remember vividly.
We remember the six Canadian Armed Forces members who made the ultimate sacrifice on July 4, 2007, in Kandahar Province, Afghanistan.
Their armoured vehicle was struck by an improvised explosive device, marking one of the deadliest days for Canada during the Afghanistan mission.
We honour their service, their courage, and their memory:
• Corporal Jordan Anderson
• Corporal Cole Bartsch
• Master Corporal Colin Bason
• Captain Matthew Dawe
• Captain Jefferson Francis
• Private Lane Watkins
Their legacy lives on in the hearts of Canadians.
DJT has dishonoured the memory of everyone who fell in Afghanistan, regardless of their nation, or their role. There were no frontlines, it was 360 ° asymmetric warfare.
Miller will get his wish and Trump will invoke the insurrection act
Reports Trump is accusing Walz and others of provoking an insurrection, and of crowds demonstrating, with clashes with police.
Tick follows tock.
Is me or are things accelerating over there with Trump?
I genuinely wonder what the world will be like in 3 years from now. We'll be lucky if he hasn't ignited a major conflict.
... And if we are still here after those 3 years, we might have 5 years of a Reform UK government to deal.
... And if we are still here after those 3 years, we might have 5 years of a Reform UK government to deal.
The one thing I think we can hope for is in the same way brexit mess made the European counterparts back off on {}it the destruction being caused to the US by the Trump/project 2025/nerd reich groups might make people look at Farage and back off considering he has the same paymasters.
Is me or are things accelerating over there with Trump?
I genuinely wonder what the world will be like in 3 years from now. We'll be lucky if he hasn't ignited a major conflict.
... And if we are still here after those 3 years, we might have 5 years of a Reform UK government to deal.
If he wants to stop the midterms, he needs to be ratcheting it up now.
If he does provoke wider confrontation then it hinges on whether the deaths of regular Americans forces the GOP to finally step in, impeach him, and launch investigations into the blatant lies by Trump, Miller et al which have created this. That feels unlikely, but I suspect trying to save their own skins may motivate them enough.
I suspect that this internal chaos will reduce the chances of Trump "doing a Greenland". Even if he does, if reports about recent US/Finnish exercises are true, that ain't going to last long.
Obviously, US instability will have economic knock on effects and not help Ukraine or the Palestinians. It may put Putin and Netanyahu in a desperate position if their biggest cheerleader is under threat.
Trumps disgusting comments about NATO allies, and Farage's failure to call him out is not doing Reform any favours, I'm wondering if their bubble has burst. Chaos may see votes getting split, so under our system who knows who will benefit, but I can't see an outright Reform majority. I'd like to see some sort of "anyone but Reform/Tory" pact being sorted out before the election.
I don't think he needs to stop the midterms, with musk back on board there will be millions on tap to flood the airwaves with lies, the supreme court in his pocket and congress completely pliant, he (or increasingly the people around his dementia addled brain) will be able to gerrymander, bullshit and disenfranchise their way to a republican hold out
if the weather wasn't so insanely cold -25C in Minneapolis tonight! i reckon itd be kicking off big time
association with trump will taint Reform a bit, but the clowns that support fartage here won't even vaguely care that Reform (& the Tories) currently support ICE in the UK: as they plan to round up a million or so people here with settled status & indefinite leave to remain
It would be really good if the Native American had an ICE agency and rounded up all the non native Americans.
If he wants to stop the midterms, he needs to be ratcheting it up now.
It isnt just him. There are several factions behind the "emperor of mankind".
This should be a very nerdish reference for Warhammer 40k fans but unfortunately it isn't since a lot of his current supporters seem to have looked at grimdark fiction and gone hell yeah. The ones who havent have looked at the lord of the kings etc and only read the first paragraph about any item of lore eg Palantir seems to be a great idea but....
Who would name a company after that and who would then hire them? I would rule them out on principle since they either didnt bother reading past the first paragraph and so are idiots or they did in which case they are a threat.
if the weather wasn't so insanely cold -25C in Minneapolis tonight! i reckon itd be kicking off big time
I've been morbidly fascinated by what's going on there. The 2nd murder in as many weeks was a shocking thing to see (stumbled across the video on Instagram of all places- they've been taken down now) It's 'interesting' that the NRA normally so vocal about individual 2A rights to carry legal firearms have been unusually quiet... Anyway, apparently ICE are off to Philadelphia next, if anyone thinks that what's happened in Minneapolis has been bad...
Anyway, apparently ICE are off to Philadelphia next, if anyone thinks that what's happened in Minneapolis has been bad...
it would be worse? how come?
I think this is all part of a plan to kick off a civil war/state of emergency so that Trump can declare marshall law and get the elections cancelled essentially making him Emperor in Chief.
martial law
Trump should be made to sit and watch the movie Civil War. Right to the end.
I thought this was an interesting read. May have been posted before
Martian law?
it would be worse? how come?
In Philadelphia the black panthers are open carrying and vowing to protect the community, this isn't about immigrants the fascists are trying to start a race war, unfortunately those attacked don't have any good choices, lay down and be persecuted and die or fight back and give them what they want.
I have just watched the video, a masked feral officer attacking a women for daring to speak, the victim try's to get in the way and protect her his hands are raised defensively, then they go in mob handed to beat the shit out of him before executing him, there isn't even the slighted doubt about this one, not that there was any real doubt last week either, I wonder if our resident fascist scum troll will be back try and spin the nazi party line this time as well.
martial law
Yeah, or that..... 🤪
How many shots to incapacitate a suspect on the ground, 6, 7 shots. Unbelievable.
BBC report said 10 shots
then they go in mob handed to beat the shit out of him before executing him
They also removed his legally owned gun from the holster on his waist, where it had been the whole time and which he made no attempt to touch at any point before he was shot, 8 or 9 times. In less than one hour and with no investigation whatsoever Stephen Miller and Kristi Noem had declared that he had gone there with the sole purpose of attempting a mass murder of federal agents. This is a man who worked as a ICU nurse at a hospital for injured veterans and who's only criminal history was a couple of parking tickets
This is worth reading.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/trump-roles-supporters-categories/685706
The first year of Donald Trump’s second term has made two things clear. First, the MAGA coalition is not breaking up any time soon. Even after the especially chaotic events of the past few weeks, Trump supporters are sticking by their man. Second, faith in Trump’s leadership is not driven by his adherence to a coherent political ideology. Trump, who, as part of his “America First” policy, once declared that he would be “getting out of the nation-building business,” has now declared that the U.S. “will run the country” of Venezuela for the foreseeable future. An administration that promised to look out for the “working man” has handed billions of tax dollars back to America’s wealthiest households while stripping health care from the most vulnerable.
If ideological consistency can’t explain the enduring loyalty of Trump’s base, what does? A new study by More in Common, the nonprofit research organization where we work, finds that Trump’s coalition is not monolithic. It consists of four groups, each with a distinct profile and perspective. Trump’s political power depends on his ability to connect with these groups on different emotional and psychological grounds.
Over the course of 10 months, we surveyed more than 10,000 people who said they voted for Trump in 2024, and conducted extensive focus groups, conversations, and in-depth interviews. We then identified groups of Trump voters with similar attitudes and beliefs.
About 29 percent of 2024 Trump voters are what we call the “MAGA Hardliners.” These are the fiery core of Trump’s base, mostly composed of white Gen Xers and Baby Boomers, who are animated by the belief that God is on their side in America’s existential struggle between good and evil. Then there are the “Anti-Woke Conservatives” (21 percent): a more secular and affluent group of voters deeply frustrated by what they perceive as the takeover of schools, culture, and institutions by the progressive left. Another 30 percent are the “Mainline Republicans”: a more racially diverse group of middle-of-the-road conservatives who prioritize border security, a strong economy, and cultural stability. Finally, we have the “Reluctant Right” (20 percent). Members of this group, unlike the other three, are not necessarily part of Trump’s base; they voted for him, but have ambivalent feelings toward him. Only half identify as Republicans, and many picked Trump because he seemed “less bad” than the alternative.
Our research suggests that Trump’s ability to play different roles for his coalition yields an emotional payoff that exceeds the value of philosophical or logical consistency.
The first role that Trump plays, which resonates for all four groups, is that of a “builder.” Trump’s social-media rants and diatribes against “corrupt” institutions create a common misperception that his appeal centers on tearing things down. In fact, his voters see him primarily as a constructive force. When asked to choose from a set of roles that they associate with Trump, 58 percent of survey participants selected “a builder trying to fix a broken system”—the highest share of any option offered. For the Reluctant Right, this sense of construction is paired with an image of managerial competence: They are more likely than any of the other groups to describe Trump as a “businessman” or a “CEO running a company.” The perception of Trump’s positive, constructive role helps explain why “hope” is the emotion that Trump supporters most commonly associate with his presidency.
Trump’s second role is that of “redeemer”: someone who can restore his supporters’ status and respect in a society that they feel has long looked down on them. Most Trump voters in our study believe that America’s cultural institutions have been dominated by those who scorn their values and way of life. Seventy-six percent agree with the statement “The woke left has ruined American education, news, and entertainment.” Accompanying this diagnosis is a sense of disrespect from political elites and Democrats. Only a quarter of Trump voters feel respected by Americans who voted for Democrats, whereas 84 percent believe that “President Trump respects people like me.” (The important exception to this is the Reluctant Right, who feel respected by neither Trump nor Democrats.)
The third role is that of an energizing “blasphemer”—a violator of progressive norms. This identity resonates most strongly with MAGA Hardliners and Anti-Woke Conservatives, who believe that the political left has become a sanctimonious elite imposing its worldview on everyone else. About 90 percent of MAGA Hardliners and Anti-Woke Conservatives agree that the “left actually hates America.” This generates a desire not just for redemption but also for retribution. Trump presents himself as a norm-breaker who delights in poking his finger in his critics’ eyes: More than three-quarters of MAGA Hardliners and more than half of Anti-Woke Conservatives believe that “President Trump should make the left pay for its mistakes and lies.” This sense of transgression fuels a gleeful energy that runs through much of Trump’s public communication. As Gina, a 50-year-old white woman who lives in Florida, told us, Trump is “a gigantic orange flashing middle finger, and I love it.”
The final role—one that appeals especially to MAGA Hardliners—is what we call the “grand narrator.” Trump’s appeal can be understood only in the context of a decades-long collapse of trust in American institutions including Congress, the press, academia, and the scientific establishment. MAGA Hardliners—and, to a lesser extent, Anti-Woke Conservatives—overwhelmingly view the media as dishonest and believe that the “deep state” is setting the course for the whole nation. Even with unified Republican control of the White House, Supreme Court, and Congress, a majority of both groups still distrusts the federal government. In this uncertain epistemic landscape, Trump has emerged not just as a decisive leader but as a central purveyor of truth: 93 percent of MAGA Hardliners and 72 percent of Anti-Woke Conservatives say they trust him more than “all” or “most other sources.” In other words, Trump has positioned himself as both the narrator and the hero of his own story.
Politicians typically try to appeal to voters by aligning their policies with voters’ preferences. Trump satisfies deeper needs. For those despairing about our country’s direction, he offers hope; for those who feel disrespected, validation; for those who feel doubtful, clarity.
Trump’s political skills were forged in WWE arenas, on reality-TV sets, and in the luxury real-estate business—industries that live and die by their ability to capture attention, simplify narratives, and deliver emotional impact. These experiences taught him how to establish emotional bonds with audiences that far outweigh any connection based on shared ideology.
Trump’s detractors may dismiss these bonds as empty or irrelevant. But for the people who experience them, they are very real. The relationship Trump has established with tens of millions of Americans offers them something they cannot attain through conventional politics. In his various roles, he embodies the reality that they want. This is the source of his power.
... And if we are still here after those 3 years, we might have 5 years of a Reform UK government to deal.
The tricky bit for any of the main parties is that pointing out to people likely to vote REFORM that they only have to look at what Trump has delivered to the average USA voter (super expensive health care, increased cost of living, a tanking economy, and potentially sending their children off to fight and die for Trumps demented whims) to see what agenda REFORM would follow. Because to do so puts them in Trumps sights.
This is worth reading.
A lot of words to say that Trump makes it okay to be a bigot again.
He was basically any one of us.
These bastards are going to end up swinging from lamp posts.
I doubt it, also any forceful retaliation gives Trump what he wants, an insurrection level event would probably give him enough to suspend the mid terms.
There’s a cabal of scum running the country now all happy to follow the party line.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5705179-bondi-walz-letter-immigration-fraud-voter-rolls/
and why - swing-state, they want the voter roll for some reason.
This is well worth a listen: George Wallace - Rest is History.
“Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!”
George Wallace, Governor of Alabama, was one of the most successful third-party presidential candidates in American history. In 1968, he ran a populist campaign pitching himself against the Civil Rights movement. He pushed to uphold formal structures of white supremacy in the South, forever employing racist dog whistles at his rallies and in the media. He may not have won the presidency, but his approach paved the way for a new, incendiary brand of politics, which permeates American society to this day...
Join Dominic and Tom to discuss George Wallace's 1968 campaign. They explore the legacy of his political career, how it shaped the modern Republican party, and why the Alabama Governor could be considered the precursor to Donald J. Trump.
Is me or are things accelerating over there with Trump?
I don’t know if anyone watch the film ‘Civil War’ a couple of years ago.
I’ll be honest it seemed s bit hyperbolic at the time, but it made a point.
It now kinda feels like the US is about 3-6 months from the imagined world in that film…
Is me or are things accelerating over there with Trump?
I don’t know if anyone watch the film ‘Civil War’ a couple of years ago.
I’ll be honest it seemed s bit hyperbolic at the time, but it made a point.It now kinda feels like the US is about 3-6 months from the imagined world in that film…
Chatting to a friend of my daughter the other week, who had wateched "Civil War" for the first time the week before, and she was gobsmacked by the obvious parallel. (yes, I know the film is not mant to be about the political aspect)
Just been working through the BBC coverage of the latest ICE murder, and seems the Republicans might be starting to remember the second amendment, with a Republican congressman pointing out that carrying a weapon is a protected right, not punishable by death.
The attempts to deny video evidence and distort the facts by Trumps senior acolytes is almost as sickening as the shootings themselves.
The attempts to deny video evidence and distort the facts by Trumps senior acolytes is almost as sickening as the shootings themselves.
the problem is that for millions of Americans the lies of the administration will be taken as the only truth, especially when amplified through tje right wing meedia/influencers
Just checking that Epstein had nothing to do with this VA nurse’s murder and attempted government cover up?
Just flipped to CNN and watched Greg Bovino talking (down) to the press…
Some proper Heinrich Himmler vibes, talking about “choices, actions and consequences”. They’re clearly loving this, and have no fear of consequences.
This clearly isn’t a vote winning operation, but they seem to be getting unequivocal backing from the regime, doesn’t bode well for the midterms.
Just checking that Epstein had nothing to do with this VA nurse’s murder and attempted government cover up?
I suppose they’re intrinsically linked in as much as people being shot to death in Minnesota by federal agents is certainly helping divert attention away from Epstein. Was that what you meant?
Just flipped to CNN and watched Greg Bovino talking (down) to the press…
Some proper Heinrich Himmler vibes, talking about “choices, actions and consequences”. They’re clearly loving this, and have no fear of consequences.
This clearly isn’t a vote winning operation, but they seem to be getting unequivocal backing from the regime, doesn’t bode well for the midterms.
The administration has been pretty open about finding ways to circumvent the elections and keep Trump in.
A manufactured domestic crisis to call off the mid terms is the obvious first step toward that.
..Meanwhile Trump is moaning about delays to his ballroom on his 'Truth Social'.
We can be assured that all ICE murderers have complete impunity, and this will happen again and again.
Could you imagine an UK Border Force officer murdering an NHS nurse on the street whilst the Police watch?
Nothing but horrible all round.
Could you imagine an UK Border Force officer murdering an NHS nurse on the street whilst the Police watch?
its the stated policies of both Reform & Tories to round up and deport over half a million people here with indefinite leave to remain should they win the next election
so you might not have to imagine too hard
I've been to the USA once and visited Angry Catfish Cycles on the day we flew home. It gives me shivers of fear that they are murdering normal people in a regular quiet suburban neighbourhood.
I said it before...there's no non-violent mechanism to stop the trump regime, it's been demonstrated already.. several times, the courts can, and have been ignored/over ruled, when it doesn't suit the agenda.
As others have said, even with Trump dead, there's plenty of 'Vances' ready in the side lines.
I think it's
1. The USA as we know is is long dead, unlucky for thier citizens and the general world order.
2. A proper civil war to overthrow the government.
3. Trump dies and his cookie cutter understudies can't keep up the momentum of evil.
I guess (3) is the least worst outcome but I cant think of any others.
I think they will probably try to rig the elections rather than cancel them, but if that doesn't work they will declare a state of emergency. They are already trying to end the "news exemption" for comedy shows as they offer an alternative view to their narrative. No doubt they will end the automated vote counting, and bring in counting by hand picked patriots. They will restrict voting locations, and have there brown shirts on the streets causing disruption in democratic states and cities.
The way to end this is for the world to wake up and stop pretending this is only happening to the US, that it is somehow contained and isolated. They have clearly stated they want regime change in Europe, we cannot do deals with fascists and pretend that resolves the issue, it doesn't even kick the can down the road. Every deal, every concession empowers them, empowers the far right and weakens us.
This isn't an abstract academic debate happening at the other end of the world, this has real world consequences and is coming to our towns and cities.
there's no non-violent mechanism to stop the trump regime
Elections and courts. Trump won the last election by a small margin, he then took that as a mandate for sweeping change that most voters don't support and courts keep finding unconstitutional. The Trumpists have massively miscalculated with ICE and immigration. Most people do support enforcing immigration law, but having masked gangs of armed thugs roaming American cities has nothing to do with enforcing immigration law. This stuff is extremely unpopular and the Trumpists keep doubling down with their ridiculous lies about it. If this kind of stuff is still happening in six months, the Republicans will get absolutely hammered in the mid-term elections and may lose the Senate as well as the House. That will give Democrats a lot of power over the budget and the ability to hold investigations into the White House. Nobody will want to work for ICE if they don't have the budget to pay salaries and the leaders keep getting summoned to testify before congressional inquiries.
The previous points being top of Trump’s to do list is suspend or cancel the mid-terms and continue to subvert democracy in ways that were the tools of failed states.
I too have a bad feeling about this.
Elections and courts.
Except he’s busy subverting (or cancelling) elections- see the recent suggestion that ice would withdraw from Minneapolis in exchange for electoral roll data- and he’s stuffed the Supreme Court.
I think you’ll know which way the winds blowing when you get to the midterms or not.
Not forgetting anyone against Trump is ends up getting labelled as a domestic terrorist and this time it looks like trump has true believers in place.
He also has immunity against everything he does in office.
All things that weren’t in the first series, he literally has no risk for himself this time.
Nobody who carries a concealed weapon is one of us.
Irrelevant to his murder by the American Gestapo, but don't be lumping me in with fools and guns.
“Nobody will want to work for ICE if they don't have the budget to pay salaries and the leaders keep getting summoned to testify before congressional inquiries.”
I fear there is a fair proportion of ICE who would happily continue without pay
Except he’s busy subverting (or cancelling) elections
Elections are conducted by individual states, not by the federal government. People are right to be concerned about the direction things are going, but the President cannot just snap his fingers and declare elections cancelled. The absolute worst than that anti-Trump demonstrators could do right now is to try staging a violent rebellion. The reason ICE is so unpopular is because people can see videos of non-violent protesters being abused, teargassed, beaten, and shot by ICE agents. Resorting to violence is exactly what the Trumpists want. Don't give them what they want.
Elections are conducted by individual states, not by the federal government
Which is why it’s concerning that Bondi is demanding MN state electoral data as a price of reducing the violence.
Which is why it’s concerning that Bondi is demanding MN state electoral data as a price of reducing the violence.
1. Yes, it's concerning, so are many other things the Trump administration is doing.
2. Has MN agreed to hand over the data? The answer is no and I would bet everything I own that they won't.
3. Even if MN did hand over that data, what use would it be? The answer is actually, very little. The Trumpists are hoping to use it to show widespread electoral fraud. That large-scale fraud simply does not exist.
So, yes, it is a concern that the White House is trying to interfere in the election. That doesn't mean that they will succeed, there is a lot of pushback on this from states and from courts. Violence will not make things better, only worse. The only way to get rid of the Trumpists is to win the mid-term elections and then win the next presidential election.
The republicans already control more states than the dems. Trump has weaponised the DOJ against states he isn't in control of, while redistricting states he is in control off, he is prosecuting democratic state officials as "terrorists" and has control of the supreme court, he is putting his brownshirts into states that he doesn't control to cause fear, many of the state legislators that resisted his calls to steal the election in 2020 have been replaced with more subservient acolytes, he has weaponised the DOJ and other government departments against media that doesn't preach his gospel.
To say that democracy (which was already rather a feeble) will prevail against his will is just dumb blind faith and willfully ignorant of the events we all can see.
“Nobody will want to work for ICE if they don't have the budget to pay salaries and the leaders keep getting summoned to testify before congressional inquiries.”
I fear there is a fair proportion of ICE who would happily continue without pay
People on good pensions perhaps but life without an income would be hard although I expect Trump would go fundraising for them and of course the attempt to stop their funding would be weaponised.