What does the stripes on Nebraska and Maine mean on that map?
That's quite a good map to indicate what bits of the States I'd possibly consider visiting in the future. When this is all over and Trump is dead and buried (literally or figuratively) the real problem, the people stupid/racist/bigoted/ignorant enough to vote for him, will still be there hanging around like a bad smell.
I reckon he's planning to steal it through faithless electors, apparently it's 'unlikely' to be successful according to lawyers but he's proven time and again unlikely in legal terms is something he can exploit. Surely any legal fallout would end up in the now heavily-biased SCOTUS?
I reckon he’s planning to steal it through faithless electors
I am not sure he would be able to work that outside of one or two areas. They are just going for the normal recipe of voter suppression but amped up. Some states are doing their best to discourage people from voting by removing large numbers of voting stations.
Great to see Texas no longer deep red, on that map anyway. It's the GOP crown jewels. Could we ever see a tip towards the Dems, possibly if Beto O Rourke became a candidate?
Some really positive polling emerging from the Covid diagnosis. I really hope trump pulls through so he can face this election. Even if it's just for our amusement
I reckon he’s planning to steal it through faithless electors
That doesn't work at all. The electors are chosen by the political party that wins the state. They are people who have a long connection to the party, it's extremely rare for them to change their vote. What you're saying is that he would somehow convince a bunch of staunch Democrats to switch and vote Republican.
To paraphrase – “In a democracy, the people end up with the government and leaders they deserve”
You do realise that "we" have a Tory government led by Johnson don't you...
To paraphrase – “In a democracy, the people end up with the government and leaders they deserve”
Put that stone down and step away from the glass house!
Love the spelling of forest. What a gump.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313822284205916162?s=19
What a gump.
He has a point. I mean just think if the US had elected someone who would make America great again last time round. It would all have been solved by now and they wouldnt be having riots.
To paraphrase – “In a democracy, the people end up with the government and leaders they deserve”
You do realise that “we” have a Tory government led by Johnson don’t you…
Put that stone down and step away from the glass house!
The real test is when the next general elections comes. If the Country puts this shitshow back in charge...........
Perhaps he'll just declare a state of emergency due to the pandemic and the widespread election fraud and rule by fiat? A bit like Hitler's takeover of Germany.
Why not? Seems to be his standard operating model. Like the National Emergency he declared so he could divert military funds to the southern border wall after he got nowhere via the democratic process.
A grownup in the GOP needs to shutdown his Twitter I think. This morning has been crazy. He's accusing DeBlasio of 'rounding up the Jews' (via James Woods). They're actually enforcing COVID gathering restrictions.
I've had 'trash' by Suede as a non stop earworm for last two weeks cos of all these trump shenanigans
At least switch to the Roxy Music song.
What does the stripes on Nebraska and Maine mean on that map?
Most states send either all republican, or all democrat representatives to the electoral college.
Texas will send 38 republicans, California 55 democrats.
Florida has 29 seats, it could go either way - explains why it's always a focus for being bought campaigning.
Maine/Nebraska do a system where they send a mix, depending on how the statewide vote turned out.
Must admit, the overall picture is looking quite reassuring at the moment.
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What does the stripes on Nebraska and Maine mean on that map?
From Wikipedia:
Nebraska is one of two states (Maine is the other) that allow for a split in the state's allocation of electoral votes in presidential elections. Under a 1991 law, two of Nebraska's five votes are awarded to the winner of the statewide popular vote, while the other three go to the highest vote-getter in each of the state's three congressional districts.
So Nebraska and Maine have made some attempts to reduce the inequities of the US's electroal college system. Unfortunately between them they can stump up a total of 9 votes in the electoral college so it's not much use, really.
The real test is when the next general elections comes. If the Country puts this shitshow back in charge………..
Would Labour have really done any better though?
Certainly not with Corbyn in charge, and I have my doubts about Starmer.
We've got poor MP's, and I don't think our system allows anything much better.
So, yes, Tories again in 2024, as people will think Labour cant do it any better.
Would Labour have really done any better though?
Certainly not with Corbyn in charge, and I have my doubts about Starmer.
These comment sorta get to me, its based on a personal bias and not fact. Its such a moo point as right now any assumption is hypothetical. Its fact that the current US and UK leaders are not dealing with this pandemic very well. To suggest the opposition would do a bad job based on nothing.
We’ve got poor MP’s, and I don’t think our system allows anything much better.
The worse the Conservatives mess things up, the more the public think that all MPs are as bad as the MPs with the power to mess things up... so give those failing MPs the benefit of the doubt and give them the power to mess things up even more.
So, yes, Tories again in 2024, as people will think Labour cant do it any better.
It's worse than that... elections have so often been won by the Conservatives with the public taking the attitude of... "Only the Tories can get us out of the mess"... even when that mess was entirely down to the actions of the Conservatives in office. The last few wins are just the most recent example of this tendency... it's an old one that's been revived.
Would Labour have really done any better though?
It's entirely an unknown quantity, because people are elected mostly on sentiment, and very occasionally on manifesto. Their competence is unknown until they are actually tested.
I'd have gone for Corbyn purely because his idea of leadership is listening and finding consensus, which is the opposite of what Boris does, and it's done for different reasons because party ideology is completely different. Tories want corporations to be free to make tons of money however they want, which always invovles screwing everyone over; Labour want to force them to be good to their staff and look after the unfortunate. Struggle to see a problem making this choice.
But anyway this is a Trump thread.
But anyway this is a Trump thread.
It is... and it works the same way... "Look at the mess this country has become over the last few years... only I... Donald J Trump... can fix that mess".
Lol
I love that so many of Trump's attack ads are now "Riots- disasters- disease- joblessness- this is what America will look like under Biden". All literally illustrated by images of things that happened under Trump. This one's from this year, this one's from this year, ah remember this one from 2017, classic.
Let's just mention that while there's an argument that forest management is contributing to California's fires, it's mostly the management of federal land that's the issue, ie Trump's government's job. But of course, if you can fail then blame your opponents that's a win in his head even as half a state burns down.
Trump right now appears to be:
I love that so many of Trump’s attack ads are now
It seems to work to some degree though. There seems to be an ability of some on the right that despite having been in power for years they somehow still claim to be the new broom. Johnson managed to pull it off (there were some classic interviews with people saying they voted for him so there would be a change) so lets hope Trump doesnt.
James Corden's 'tribute to Trump' is pretty polished, for him. He's got a decent voice.
Would Labour have really done any better though?
Certainly not with Corbyn in charge, and I have my doubts about Starmer.
Keep drinking the Kool Aid.
A compelling argument...
The question is not whether Labour would have done any better, the question is could they possibly have done any worse.
Vote TRUMP California. No more blackouts, shutdowns, ridiculous forrest fires, or water “rationing” (coming soon). We can win in California NOW!
Does Trump actually know that if the state voted for him then it wouldn't change the state legislature?
Corden’s delivery of the “experimental cocktail” line is perfect.
This could be something about nothing… apologies if that’s what it turns out to be… but it might be signs of preparation for something quite worrying…
The question is not whether Labour would have done any better, the question is could they possibly have done any worse.
That could be Starmers key election message.
I'm imagining how painful Trump will be in the last couple of months of his term if he does lose. Wouldn't surprise me if he buggers off, leaves it to Pence to handover.
I’m imagining how painful Trump will be in the last couple of months of his term if he does lose. Wouldn’t surprise me if he buggers off, leaves it to Pence to handover
Cohen's theory is once he knows it's hopeless he'll probably resign so that Pence can at least pardon and federal stuff, not all that far-fetched given all the other crazy stuff that Trump's done. Hopefully his narcissism will mean he never realises it's game over until he's turfed out by the secret service
For many, politics has moved from manifesto and delivery to appearance and feel-good factor. MAGA is actually about nothing and Johnson's flagged references to WW2 and brilliantined Starmer's patriotism are just illusions about hopeful imaginings, pick your dream. The meek and mild Corbyn is portrayed as some Stalinist monster or a 70s Marxist (new term for me that one, Althusser, Bourdieu or Eurocommunism?) and Biden is an undead Che Guevara.
Now Trump claims that catching Covid was a blessing from God and free new drugs will cure everyone. Easy to laugh at from over here but not much different from 40 hospitals, moonshots, windfarms, plus a bit of distraction from immigrants, the proms, Marxism in schools, and the unmasked Stanley Johnson.
It is fascinating in a period of bare knuckle struggle between capital and labour how ignorance, emotion and illusion are used to get victims to beat themselves up and to suck up deferentially to a suited saviour.
Will Trump fall off the shelf? He found it a lot easier to catch Covid than catch his breath but I'm sure some fairy dust will ride to the rescue.
From Paul Components IG:
Trump Is Just A Broke Tax Cheat With 5 Kids From 3 Wives, Living, In Public Housing.
Just seen him in the news claiming he told the doctors which drugs to give him and that those drugs were amazing and cured him.
"This was a blessing in disguise - I caught it, I heard about this drug, I said let me take it and it was incredible," he said, adding that he would seek emergency use authorisations for the drugs.
President Trump renewed his attacks on China, telling Americans: "You're not going to pay for it. It wasn't your fault that this happened. It was China's fault. And China is going to pay a big price,,, This was China's fault."
I hope Pence didn't break any of his sacred chastity rules by being in close association with a fly for that long. 🙂
It's a good indicator that he is rotting from the inside out, though.
Should have gone full Nazi stooge, Indiana Jones style.
We're sick of experts and exports too and who needs medical schools? Cheap labour contractors and accountancy firms are much better and much betterer still when you have a loyal and obedient opposition.
loyal and obedient opposition
Who are they?
Who are they? Those that say 'get a grip' and 'must try harder' rather than learning from eg NZ and proposing more successful alternatives. If all you do is support this utterly incompetent government, you get spattered in just the same way when the matter hits the fan and the voters are not given real alternatives. I doubt whether many people could say what principles Labour stands for now as all we've heard about is values of decency, professionalism, electability, patriotism, all designed not to get people campaigning out on the streets.
