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Surely there are people in Trumps inner circle that can’t let him go through with this.
It's a demonstration of how an appalling and dangerous culture in government gradually gets normalised. You get long-term staff at the Department of Defense with a president who is openly advocating a war crime (bombing cultural sites), but even then, they aren't prepared to criticise him publicly, or resign. And obviously the GOP is a lost cause morally, with even previously moderate senators going all-in behind him.
At the risk of going all Godwin, people often wonder how seemingly good and balanced Germans fell in behind extreme and horrifying policies in the 1930s and 1940s. This process is how it starts.
I can’t believe this thread isn’t at the top, what is wrong with us?
The normalisation is working on us too. Some of the stuff which had us ranting for days a couple of years ago seems trivial compared with the shit he's getting up to now.
My son has just informed me there'e a $80million bounty on Trump's head from the Iranians. I didn't know they'd started up a Crowdfunding page. Where do I donate my £10 quid?
Actually, here's a thought. As the orange one has only one love, the dollar, how much would we have to raise to make him just eff off forever? A couple of billion? More?
Trump will never stop and think, he's a knee jerk reactionary. He doesn't plan. Iran need to stop and think and play the waiting game (for a new US President) but sadly I don't think they will. Any military response on their part (which they are promising) will result in all manner of hell raining down upon them.
This will not end well for anyone in the area. Iran have some very good antiship missiles and seem to have got swarming drone attacks sorted, Allah help them if they try for one of the US Carriers.
and Kimbers I will respectfully disagree, the TG, from what I've read and watched seemed to be a cut above your regular Iranian General in terms of leadership and organisational flair.
If he's having to threaten Iraq with sanctions to make them let the US stay, it shows just how weak their position in Iraq has become.
I imagine that this won't go unnoticed around the world.
Not just weak, verging on shambolic
It's like they put Chris grayling in charge
https://twitter.com/bealejonathan/status/1214291610466471938?s=20
I am not so sure another foreign war to protect one lot of brown people (not Americans!) from another lot of brown people (also not Americans!) will play that well with Trump's fan base. He campaigned on stopping their soldiers coming back in body bags, defending places most of his fans can't even spell, let alone locate on a map. I think he may have over estimated his own popularity here finally at last. Live by the tweet, die by the tweet etc.
That memo has no signature - probably fake.
Well, the bombing of cultural and non-military sites is a crime under the international law of armed conflict. People being asked to carry this order out would be entitled to refuse to obey it and the person issuing the order could be arrested and tried under the same laws.
No wonder the military rolled back on that one.
It’s also a crime under US law.
Well I think he should have got the Nobel peace prize for his contribution to world stability.
**** me drunk!!!
Well, this took a disturbing twist.
WhatsApp messaging between two Trump/Giuliani associates about the then US Ambassador to Ukraine. Which appear to show them keeping track of her movements somehow, and monitoring her personal security... purpose unknown.
https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1217215352754577409
Yonanovitch, for context, was suddenly recalled to Washington and variously badmouthed by Trump/GOP for disloyalty, or more likely, getting in the way of his efforts to get dirt on Biden.
Since Lev Parnas, one half of that exchange, was nicked trying to board a flight out of the US and is reportedly cooperating, things could get interesting. The messages are part of a cache of texts etc which are now in the hands of the US authorities.
The other half of the exchange, Robert Hyde, who is running for Congress for the Republicans, apparently got arrested at Mar-a-Lago last year claiming that a hitman was out to get him. Bizarre and somewhat sinister stuff...
I guess that could be out of context, but at face value it does sound very sinister.
You'd think that internet conspiracy theorists would be all over this stuff, but in my experience the majority of them have fallen for the "Trump vs the media/elite/liberals/world" nonsense and are largely on his side. 🙄
It feels more like the Home Alone burglars than something out of Bourne. But still, it shows the kind of ****ery that surrounds the Trump circus.
But then again, officials clearly thought something was happening that meant she had to leave in a hurry a couple of weeks later.
Shortly before being recalled to Washington, Yovanovitch said she received two late-night calls on April 24 and 25 from Director General of the Foreign Service Carol Perez.
“She said that she was giving me a heads-up, that things were going wrong, kind of ... off the track.” Hours later, at 1 a.m. in Ukraine, Perez called again to say “that I needed to be on the next plane home to Washington. And I was like, what? What happened? And she said, I don’t know, but this is about your security. You need to come home immediately.”
It is utterly jaw-dropping to even consider the possibility that people in Trump's orbit - the links between Parnas and Giuliani are well established - were apparently talking about getting a 'price' for something involving a serving US ambassador, tracking her movements and perhaps her devices, and that person had to be recalled for her own safety a matter of days later.
Even Fox is laughing at the state of him now.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1222335747992248322
John Bolton's book & possible testimony putting even staunch trump fan republican senators in a bind.
He'll still get away with it
Completely coincidentally he's released his mid East peace plan 2years late with Netenyahu (also coincidentally facing 3 fraud trials)
And the obviously qualified kushner* 😜 who never bothered talking to Palestinians when he came up with his plan to permanently anexe east Jerusalem & settlements , got all ranty when the Palestinians didn't bite his hand off ...
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1222267596210343940?s=19
*Kushners testimony to the FBI being blocked from release by Whitehouse at the moment too
Even God hates the border wall:
"A section of Donald Trump’s much-vaunted border wall between the United States and Mexico has blown over in high winds, US border patrol officers have been reported as saying."
DIrrrty cops....Baaaad people..........
The orange clag-nugget is speaking live broadcasting his acquittal speech, he's a very humble and contrite man aint he?.
he’s a very humble and contrite man aint he?.
Even Bill managed a bit of faux contrition in similar circumstances.
https://twitter.com/sbg1/status/1225456759113994240
Now Bonespurs kicks out a true military name.
He truly is odious and now feels massively empowered.
I'm convinced that he won't release his tax returns because they will show his 'wealth' is nothing like what he claims; ooh Donny, the shame.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51408704
That's what happens when you tell the truth against trumps lies.
Heading up to Ayrshire t'morn to see a mates new electric KTM motocross bike and have a shot if i can get on to it, he stays just of the A719 nr to Trumps Turnberry golf course and i imagine the course has some decent kickers and bunkers to play around in, D'ya suppose i could write "Trump is a ****" on the fairway with the back wheel?
Firing all the Whitehouse staff who dared to tell the truth is truly grim.
History will not judge this kindly
Don't let me stop you!
I can’t wait for the time when the truth about him emerges; he will be dreading the moment when his presidency ends as that will be when the lawsuits come piling in.
As for his brats - elder sons are vermin; eldest daughter is vacuous airhead with useless husband from criminal family.
When he goes...their platform disappears, his ‘brand’ disappears, they disappear; the world will be a better place.
Remember Robert Maxwell? Killed himself when the net was closing. Bonespurs will either do the same thing or finish in jail; SDNY have it in for him and have been preparing since the last election. He has burned too many people; they want revenge - and will have it.
His claimed tax breaks? If you’re truly wealthy - yup, good for me; for anyone else - you’ve been shafted.
As for the tradition of presidential libraries - Trump’s will likely comprise the collected thoughts of Ronald McDonald and a treatise on how to shaft contractors.
Just when you think he can't outdo himself he always manages to.
Christ, they really will elect him again I think, too...
Poop - I think we'll endure another four years of the odious orange buffoon.
There is an upside - he will piss, humiliate and insult even more people who will then want revenge; it allows more time for SDNY and other attorney's offices to build their cases against him.
I don't which I would prefer:
- Bonespurs kills himself so....justice denied
or
- sued repeatedly; tax returns publicised; jailed; death by a thousand cuts.
In fact, I do know - it's the latter.
Of course his audience will re-elect him, he can lie and contradict himself in the same sentance and his acolytes love him, they know he lies and just don’t care that they are lied to.
The latest Making Sense podcast with Sam Harris talking about trump derangement syndrome is worth a listen
And another one.
It's shaping up like the night of the long knives - either Hitler or Macmillan; take your pick.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/07/trump-ousts-gordon-sondland-hours-after-firing-alexander-vindman/?utm_source=maropost&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news_alert&utm_content=20200207&tpcc=nypbreaking&mpweb=755-8594923-719098922
He will get away with it, his family will go from strength to strength outside the constant public gaze. This is the way of the world, the rich and powerful have always acted this way, it is just his particular narcissism has exposed it more than ever. From medieval knights through the titans of the industrial revolution to new tech gods, they are all the same.
Bloomberg is even buying the democratic nomination now to ensure nothing changes.
He will get away with it, his family will go from strength to strength outside the constant public gaze. This is the way of the world, the rich and powerful have always acted this way, it is just his particular narcissism has exposed it more than ever.
Regardless of whether his rich powerful etc if he cannot help make people earn a living he is out.
The BBC Reality Check on his state of the nation speech was depressing reading. Looks like a lot of the positive numbers he quoted are building on stuff started under Obama, but no one wants to hear that
fake tan or fake news, the orange one is not happy!
fake tan or fake news
exploding cigar
The comments on the boingboing article about that dTrumph photo are excellent...
https://boingboing.net/2020/02/08/why-has-this-photo-of-trump-go.html
Regardless of whether his rich powerful etc if he cannot help make people earn a living he is out.
Or he just needs to convince enough of them that the reason they don't have a job is immigration or China and that he's the only guy with those at the top of the agenda. Kinda like the Tories convinced the unemployed and low paid in this country it was all immigration & the EU's fault (and definitely not poorly thought out austerity measures...).
Politics is in a race to the bottom, you can even tell blatant lies these days, as long as you keep denying it or ignoring it when challenged and focus on spewing out more false narratives you'll probably win elections.
Read and despair.
He really is a shit.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51449739
****er. ;(
Wtf is that BBC link, goes via go.skimresources.com for me? Seems like a bullshit middleman revenue generating site - is that STW implemented or something frankconway added or even my browser? Kind of alarming a hover-over displays the correct BBC URL but if you copy the link out you'll see it changes to https://go.skimresources.com/?id=91808X1545679&isjs=1&jv=13.26.2-stackpath&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fsingletrackworld.com%2Fforum%2Ftopic%2Fdonald-trump%2Fpage%2F399%2F&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fworld-us-canada-51449739&xguid=&xs=1&xtz=0&xuuid=2780f47960f4058ec005697d549ab165
Our web gateway blocks such crap behaviour thankfully...
It's a "feature" of STW forum
Fuzzywuzzy - link works fine for me?
I'm still confused :p I never even knew skim links were a thing but apparently they've been around for years. It only seems to happen for me through Chrome (although I'm not logged into STW when using Edge). My test link above breaks as it redirects via go.skimresources.com (which is blocked where I work) but Fasthaggis's link works fine so still no clue if it's my-side or Forum-side and why it's not consistent (and why a BBC link would go via a monetisation site)?
Googling suggests it's a Forum-side thing that's enabled so the owners can generate revenue but I've only just noticed it today and even it they weren't blocked it would annoy me, especially if they're not Amazon type links I'm clicking on - the only reason I'm a subscriber is to contribute to forum running costs, I don't want my browsing history tracked by a 3rd party (or JavaScript potentially being run) as a result!
fasthaggis
Just some old burial sites ,blast away boys
Man, that's shocking. It's just so [i]backwards[/i].
Fuzzy - suggest you raise with STW mods/tech; no problem with my post/link - as confirmed by morecash's post.
I'm not in the game of scamming.
Your test post re hydrogen powered yacht works fine for me.