Still good approval ratings among republicans tho, which does not speak highly of them !
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39375123 ]US healthcare bill: Blow for Trump as House vote delayed[/url]
[url= http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-obamacare-idUSKBN16U14Q ]Healthcare vote postponed[/url]
Markets not liking it
30 to 40 votes needed apparently...
And
Moments before reports surfaced that the vote would be delayed, Trump told trucking industry executives at the White House that "today, the House is voting to replace the disaster known as Obamacare." Asked about the postponement reports shortly after, Trump shrugged, according to The Associated Press.
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Has anyone less fit to govern ever been top dog in a democratic country? Burlusconi? I don't think even he was as bad
Has anyone less fit to govern ever been top dog in a democratic country?
I'd say there has been quite a few- even in very recent times Rodrigo Duterte, Park Geun-hye and maybe even Dilma Rouseff spring to mind. However, it is prob fair to say that Trump is the by far the biggest looney in any of the OECD democracies
Trump very much resembles the populist, obfuscatory type of leader that, unfortunately, you are more likely to find in one of the more politically unstable, corrupt and comparatively economically undeveloped countries. Someone pretty much nailed it when they said that the US has just elected its first banana republic president
I suspect that somewhere in America highly trained members of the security services are already practicing their one shot kills at range.
Rich Hall's 60 Days of Trump may amuse a few on here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04xsbfc
And yes, plenty of comparisons to Hitler to keep ninfan happy 😆
Has anyone less fit to govern ever been top dog in a democratic country? Burlusconi? I don't think even he was as bad
Julius Caesar?
Rome was a democratic republic (albeit with a very limited electorate) in which he was elected quaestor of Spain. Where he happily enriched himself until he was able to cross the Rubicon at the head of his army.
Thanks for posting, meant to watch that when it was on. 🙂 Edit - thought it was a TV thing - radio's even better, ta! 🙂
Friended with some MXing Americans (which means they're about as red neck as red neck can be), and stunned that people can still give Drumpf such vehement support.
Since the news from the opponents about President Trump is so accurate would anyone of you wish to bet? How long do you give President Trump then we bet? Don't have to bet more than £10 if you are unsure. 😛
The best/worst thing about the healthcare bill knockback is that for Republicans it's not shitty enough to poor people. Who voted for Trump.
would anyone of you wish to bet?
I have no idea how long Donald Trump will remain US president but I'm willing to bet that you'll still be talking shite in four years time.
I think he'll go full term, he'll just get slowly muzzled by criticism from his own party, and general global mockery, he'll be unable to do anything too nuts, and be quietly ushered out of the back door by the republicans who'll play the whole thing down and pretend it never happened.
But he'll make a nice chunk of cash out it during the trip, which I suspect was his end game all along.
I'll bet 2 pints of fine ale on that.
😆 C'monnn ...ernie_lynch - Member
would anyone of you wish to bet?
I have no idea how long Donald Trump will remain US president but I'm willing to bet that you'll still be talking shite in four years time.
mattyfez - Member
But he'll make a nice chunk of cash out it during the trip, which I suspect was his end game all along.I'll bet 2 pints of fine ale on that.
Most Presidents will make a nice chunk regardless ...
Ok, a huge chunk, a great chunk, a big chunk. It's gonna be great. (for his bank account).
Ok, a huge chunk, a great chunk, a big chunk. It's gonna be great.
That sounds like Trump-talk to me........needless repetition.
he'll just get slowly muzzled by criticism from his own party, and general global mockery, he'll be unable to do anything too nuts
I agree - but I would imagine Donald's response to this will be indignation/fury/random-pulling-of-levers-and-pressing-of-buttons rather than begrudging acceptance. Hence why I think we could see the world's biggest flounce.
But he'll make a nice chunk of cash out it during the trip, which I suspect was his end game all along.
I certainly agree with that - but I also think that's the Democrat's best opportunity to tie him in knots with hearing-after-hearing about conflicts of interest.... having not divested his businesses, he's left himself very exposed.
maxtorque - Memberhe made massive losses in the 90's, only survived because he had so much money in the first place.
Not even that- the only reason the casino businesses survived in 1990 was an illegal loan from his dad. Corrupt Trump! SAD.
That sounds like Trump-talk to me........needless repetition
That was kinda the point, lol!
Yeah I think the givaway was [i]"It's gonna be great."[/i]
The casino thing is interesting, they are mathematically and scientifically guaranteed to make money, so how you could loose at that, unless your employees were massively ripping you off.. And skimming,
But I guess Trump doesn't do the maffs.
I'm with batfink on this - If he is not impeached I see a megaflounce coming
2 years tops is my bet.
I hope we do see a flounce, I really do, it would be a spectacle!
it would be a spectacle!
Has there ever been a bigger one? Not sure. Edward VIII maybe (at the time, obviously people wouldn't give a hoot nowadays), but I'm not sure that was too flouncy.
Here's hoping the bar will be raised soon! Hehehe!
The casino thing is interesting, they are mathematically and scientifically guaranteed to make money, so how you could loose
You still need to get the losers in to give you the cash, if your building is too expensive and your operating costs are high you need a lot of income. From memory was it a wrong place, too big type of problem (somebody probably told him that at the early stages)
We are determined to return to the 1950s [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39375228 ]seems like the yanks have beat us to it[/url].
the Democrat's best opportunity to tie him in knots with hearing-after-hearing about conflicts of interest.... having not divested his businesses, he's left himself very exposed.
I think he will just dielike folk actually asking him questions he actually has to answer
Anything where he simply had to reveal his taxes would probably be enough to really piss him off
I think he thought he would be very powerful he is now finding out that the president is powerful if he has allies and he is weak without them and he has to win hearts and minds not just threaten and bully them as he has done in the past
I very much doubt he has the skillset to do this and i doubt he has the personality to even try and achieve consensus
So the news this morning is that he has threatened to leave Obamacare in place if his bill doesn't get a vote today.
In other news senate have dismantled a wildlife protection bill in Alaska. It's now legal to kill wolf pups and bear cubs, even gas them in their dens and use aircraft for tracking. Another attack on the environment presumably to make life easier for Trump's big business pals to extract resources without any silly protection rules getting in the way.
Trump's deft business brain at work (from the failing NYT, of course)
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html
Hopefully the Republicans will fail bigly to get ACA through. The irony, of course, is that it would fail for not being enough of a bastard to poor people.
So the news this morning is that he has threatened to leave Obamacare in place if his bill doesn't get a vote today.
Thats exactly how he's ran his business interests for years though, he talks about being a great negotiator but he cannot cope with set-backs to his views so he throws an orange tinged baw-bagged huff, throws his toys out the pram and moves onto something else.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39375123 ]Meanwhile, Chris Collins, New York's Republican representative, said: "The president has said he wants a vote tomorrow, up or down. If for any reason it is down, we are just going to move forward with additional parts of his agenda."[/url]
Yeah, He is a big baby used to screaming and getting his own way.
Meanwhile whilst draining the swamp Donald has gave a job to his ex Bankruptcy Lawyer [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39375961 ]Mr Friedman, who was once Donald Trump's bankruptcy lawyer, is critical of the US goal of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
He also supports Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank, and has backed moving the US embassy to Jerusalem.[/url]
Just when you think the Donald cannot get any more farcical he goes and confirms a Zionist appeaser into the role of Israeli Ambassador.
Just when you think the Donald cannot get any more farcical he goes and confirms a Zionist appeaser into the role of Israeli Ambassador.
Only farcical if you view Trump as an alcoholic in charge of an AA recovery program, when he's actually more like a drunk in charge of a bar. 'You dont like I'm drunk? Then you're fired.'
He and his friends can now get drunk with the whole bar to themselves. Soon they'll own the town and all of the bars.
It's beginning to look more and more like a return to the Wild West with Trump as the Mayor. Of course the Red Necks will lap that up.
So the news this morning is that he has threatened to leave Obamacare in place if his bill doesn't get a vote today.
Best people to negotiate with, short fuses and no capital to spend. He can't do anything, he can't change anything without the house so maybe they will be happy to remind him of that. He might be the president but they are the Government. Plenty will like to put the leash back on the puppy shitting in the corner
would anyone of you wish to bet? How long do you give President Trump then we bet? Don't have to bet more than £10 if you are unsure
PaddyPower are offering 11/10 on impeachment so what odds are you offering? (cue chewkw suddenly not understanding betting)
Any idea what time the Obamacare vote will be? I want to check the Trumpalumpa's twitter feed just after...
Lot of wishful thinking about a Trump death-spiral here. Hard to tell if he is actually circling the drain or whether this just represents business as usual...
The Guardian says 4pm ET...
They've just pulled it! It's a real success story so far, this presidency.
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I thought that I'd had a bad day in the office today!
Shameful that they pulled it for not being harsh enough on poor people but hey that's the Republicans.
Yup, it's been kicked out.
Roflcopter!
Hyper flounce prepared to launch in 3, 2, 1...
Sadly and embarrassing as it is, seems the US government is actually more effective than that of the UK at the moment.
got to remember that it's not always easy to know if the government is actually having any effect at all 🙂
Belgium - no government record - 589 days:)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%9311_Belgian_government_formation
Excellent.
