THE ISSUE IS CLOSED. Apparently she's just incompetent.
ninfan Allah Akbar is Arabic for god is great or Good God, I say sweet jesus and good god regularly that does not make me a Christian just someone who has been raised in a Christian influenced environment.
Yes, I agree, I'm perfectly happy to give him the benefit of the doubt, I said that - it's exactly the type of thing that might innocently slip out of your mouth whilst stabbing people to death. I'm more than happy to accept that
Still waiting for that verifiable source ninfan..
He's made his appeal to Occam's razor now, the issue is closed.
You obviously 'don't read good', I also clearly pointed out The applicability of Heineins razor, but I understand and apologise if the concept was beyond your cognitive ability.
Still waiting for that verifiable source ninfan..
You're waiting for a verifiable source regards a massacre that everyone accepts didn't happen, but everyone also accepts witnessed Iraqi refugees in the US involved in the attempted supply of weapons and explosives to People trying to kill US soldiers in Iraq 😕
Undermine and/or act to impede freedom of the press?
Check.
Undermine and/or act to impede the independent judiciary?
Check.
He's certainly not wasting any time implementing the big print guide to effective fascism.
An unpredictable and dangerous man, no question.
Allah Akbar is Arabic for god is great or Good God
Allahu Akbar - "God is greatest ". I don't think it would be used in the same way as we use "Good God".
crankboy - Member
ninfan Allah Akbar is Arabic for god is great or Good God, I say sweet jesus and good god regularly that does not make me a Christian just someone who has been raised in a Christian influenced environment.
[b]No no no that is absolutely NOT the same.[/b]
None of my muslim friends from All over the world would say "Allah Akbar" unless something serious or going into "battle" (in SE Asia racial clash). God is great is normally a "battle cry" or for something serious. Nobody will say or shout "Allah Akbar" for no reason.
Their version of "sweet Jesus" is "Yah Allah" or simply "Allah" or in SE Asia we say "Alamak" (Oh my God). The term alamak is used by all ethic groups regardless of religious denomination.
ninfan - Member
He's made his appeal to Occam's razor now, the issue is closed.
You obviously 'don't read good', I also clearly pointed out The applicability of Heineins razor, but I understand and apologise if the concept was beyond your cognitive ability.
Oh the ironing.
Ninfan no body gave him the benefit of the doubt the case was fully investigated by the Australian police who determined it was not islamist terrorism ,or do you have a secret insight or skill that the police lack.
PS did you spot the other direct lie in Kelly Anne Conway’s statement?
slowoldman - Member
Allah Akbar is Arabic for god is great or Good God
Allahu Akbar - "God is greatest ". I don't think it would be used in the same way as we use "Good God".
Slowoldman is correct the term does not refer to "Good God" but is an expression of domination over others. It is also a way to establish power or build up own courage.
chew I don't know your day to day life but i think killing someone with a knife is a fairly serious act.
Ninfan's called this right IMHO.
Heinlein's razor every time.
Having said that, by getting this wrong she's cemented in everyone's minds that Obama held up a load of Iraqi visas so I wouldn't totally rule out this is Trump cunningly controlling the agenda.
Hard to guess motives.
Sorry, I am not referring to other news but actually focus on the term "God is great". This is a term that is really out of sync with the language usage because it is a term that you cannot use in the sentence. This term is normally associated with prayer or use while praying. If use in other context then it is out of place which means you need to take note coz it is out of normality.crankboy - Member
chew I don't know your day to day life but i think killing someone with a knife is a fairly serious act.
Hard to guess motives.
Absolutely.... What about drum up support for an illegal policy by using fear, continue ninfan's work on the "but Obama did" line and get something wrong 3 times on national TV without being corrected behind the scenes once? The follow up from the white house of terrorism you might have misses (badly put together) shows more planning than just coincidence.
If not it's serious incompetence. Neither quality are one for people in that position.
You're waiting for a verifiable source regards a massacre that everyone accepts didn't happen, but everyone also accepts witnessed Iraqi refugees in the US involved in the attempted supply of weapons and explosives to People trying to kill US soldiers in Iraq
No, I was just waiting for you to spout more bollox. Thanks for obliging!
(Worth listening to the couple of minutes from then on by the way)
better listening from 17:30 when he claims the murder rate is highest it's been for 47 years, more alt-facts
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Ninfan no body gave him the benefit of the doubt the case was fully investigated by the Australian police who determined it was not islamist terrorism ,or do you have a secret insight or skill that the police lack.
You appear to be searching for something that we disagree on Crankboy.
More than happy to accept that someone stabbing two people and a did to death, with multiple other victims, while shouting Allahu Ackbar is completley not a terror incident
Just like I'm happy to accept that an Australian driver ploughing his car into a crowd and killing five people whilst is, similarity, not a terrorist incident:
Even though at least one eye witness reported him shouting Allahu Ackbar
What are the chances, eh?
Even though at least one eye witness reported him shouting Allahu AckbarWhat are the chances, eh?
Tateless, did they? Who were these people who heard that wile he was in his car? I assume you didn't follow any of that? Not an Islamic terror incident.
We can however talk about America's own domestic terror problems where systematically Americans with no Islamic connection have shot dead hundreds of people in schools, churches, cinemas etc. To an extent that it happens more than any attack in Europe etc.
If he wants to keep them safe he should look inwards.
Klunk - sloppy wording? Murder rate is RISING at its fastest rate in forty odd years
As discussed, you can look for some big conspiracy theory if you want, you can give the benefit of the doubt if you want, as long as you are willing to apply the same standards to both sides of the divide.
We can however talk about America's own domestic terror problems where systematically Americans with no Islamic connection have shot dead hundreds of people in schools, churches, cinemas etc. To an extent that it happens more than any attack in Europe etc.
Do they accidentally shout "in the name of Jesus" while doing it?
better listening from 17:30 when he claims the murder rate is highest it's been for 47 years, more alt-facts
At what point do Trump's never-ending lies stop being news?
I work on the assumption that nothing Trump says is actually truthful.
Give me the news when Trump says something which turns out to be true.
What the Oz killer was reported to have said is kind of irrelevant really.
The investigating authorities and even the victim's family have said that it was not a terrorist act. He knew the two people he killed. They were "friends". [url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/queensland-stabbing-smail-ayad-mia-ayliffe-chung-murder-hostel-attack-allahu-akbar-a7208586.html ]Several[/url] [url= http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/french-backpacker-shouted-allahu-akbar-during-fatal-home-hill-stabbing/news-story/2d6b0d75e4afb20d943ec9d9076110bb ]reports[/url] suggest he was a bit obsessed with the girl and she spurned his advances, presumably we'll find out more when the case comes to trial in a week.
The case has been [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-37797277 ]transferred to a mental health court[/url] after a [url= http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/accused-backpacker-killer-in-court/news-story/b9150345205be8ff2215f01c3a93a1a1 ]preliminary diagnosis of schizophrenia[/url]. So the guy is quite possibly not right in the head (or at least, [i]less[/i] right in the head than other double murderers).
Do they accidentally shout "in the name of Jesus" while doing it?
Does it matter, more people are dead.
So the guy is quite possibly not right in the head (or at least, less right in the head than other double murderers).
Does being willing to martyr yourself in the name of an imaginary sky fairy in the belief that you will be rewarded with seventy two virgins in the afterlife indicate being right in the head then?
Just establishing whether the perpetrators mental Heath reall precludes something being connected with terror/religious extremism.
Well indeed. The old conundrum of what is "sane"
There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind.
Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to.
Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle."That's some catch, that Catch-22," he observed.
"It's the best there is," Doc Daneeka agreed."
So, has anyone changed their mind about how they're going to vote next time round?
Too right:
Klunk - sloppy wording?
Compulsive bullshitter more like as he's made the same claim in the past.
Quite crazy, killing randomers is the sign of the mental illness, regardless of whether they say it's in the name of a random religion, voices in the head or for no reason at all.
More armed toddler's accidentally killed Americans than jihadists ever did.
Does being willing to martyr yourself in the name of an imaginary sky fairy in the belief that you will be rewarded with seventy two virgins in the afterlife indicate being right in the head then?
But not to stick to the point... This is about people coming to the US to do them harm. It's just not happening, picking out stuff where individuals have decided a course of action and said something religious is very different to organised terrorism. Once again you flounder making the point that the ban is pointless.
Murder rate is RISING at its fastest rate in forty odd years
Even that isn't really true as it rose by nearly 16% in 1990.
It does seem slightly bizarre to try to get support for the ban by citing something that wasn't recorded as a terrorist incident and is not something that the ban would have prevented even if it had taken place on US soil.
Mind you it was also bizarre to cite the terrorist attack on the mosque in Quebec, given that it was conducted by a French-Canadian Trump-follower.
(and let's not forget that eye-witnesses reported he was shouting "Allahu Akbar" as well)
Live feed of the Court hearing eregards the ban should be on this link in a minute:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DEK8FCBMkMQ&feature=youtu.be
Live feed of the Court hearing
Pass the kleenex??
Anyway back to the regular corruption and profiteering
Mrs Trump "had the unique, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, as an extremely famous and well-known person, as well as a former professional model, brand spokesperson and successful businesswoman, to launch a broad-based commercial brand in multiple product categories, each of which could have garnered multi-million dollar business relationships for a multi-year term during which plaintiff is one of the most photographed women in the world," the lawsuit said.
(Source - her laywer)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-08/melania-trump-lawsuit-brand-once-in-a-lifetime-first-lady/8250352
I wonder if they will try and see what the distinction between being an escort and sleeping with men for their money is 😉
Reports often say people should Alan Akbar when commiting crimes. For example the recent Quebec Mosque attack . do you believe that one was islamist terrorism Ninfan?
"Just establishing whether the perpetrators mental Heath reall precludes something being connected with terror/religious extremism."
Interesting line of argument there Ninfan so you think Peter Sutcliffe should be presented as a Christian extremist , should all Christians apologise for his murder and accept they need to do something about the dark side if their religion?
Was it not Russians who carried out the Boston Bombing terror attack? Hmmm
Russians are good terrorists and murderers though, also they didn't shout Allah Akbar so it's not terrorism.
crankboy - Member
Reports often say people should Alan Akbar when commiting crimes. For example the recent Quebec Mosque attack . do you believe that one was islamist terrorism Ninfan?
so you think Peter Sutcliffe should be presented as a Christian extremist
Again, Crankboy, you seem to be desperately searching for something that we disagree on, when I have said very clearly that I am more than happy to extent the benefit of doubt regards involvement in some form of conspiracy/terrorist plot to anyone who, on the face of it, claims to be acting in the name of God/Beelzebub/Alan's Snackbar/Helter Skelter/Britain First/opposition to cultural Marxism/communist revolution
And yet you bring up debunked or unsubstantiated stuff about attacks. If. It quacks like a duck
Reports often say people should [b]Alan Akbar[/b] when commiting crimes.
I think we need a total and complete shutdown of Partridge & Star Wars fans entering our country until we can figure out what the hell is going on..
If. It quacks like a duck
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And yet you bring up debunked or unsubstantiated stuff about attacks. If. It quacks like a duck
Whereas you repeatedly bring up stories of 'lies' and 'deliberate misinformation' without critically applying the benefit of the doubt whereby they could equally be explained by inadvertent human error or misunderstanding.
Is your cognitive dissonance radar twitching yet?
At least he is giving a lot of inspiration to hardcore bands, the comments section is something to behold, Russia is trying to get independence from the E.U. 😯
[quote=ninfan ]No, like all of Trumps team, she is far more dangerous than that, in fact I would go so far as to admit that it's only by a twist of fate that she isn't camp commandant in one of Donald (literally Hitler)'s internment camps yet.
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