[Closed] Donald! Trump!

"born in or are citizens of Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen."

I guess Mo falls under the 'born in' category.

Doesn't he live there (Farah)?

Yup. Currently lives in Oregon, near his coach and Nike HQ.

He's currently training in Ethiopia for 2 weeks, then racing in the UK, but will at some point need to return [i]home[/i].

It's cool guys, it'll all be sorted once he "figures out what the heck is going on".

it has been confirmed that it applies to people with dual nationality .

Oh indeed ninfan. And self righteous and all sorts of things. The cad called my a wishy washy pale pink liberal for goodness sake. BUt he is not a bigot by his postings on here

Tom - that is libelous. Ernie may be many things but he is not a bigot in any form. He, like I, and many other abhor what the Israeli state is doing to the Palestinians but that does not make us anti semites. It makes us people who hate injustice and the [b]apartheid state[/b] Israel has become

You where doing OK till that last part. Israel is the best place in the Middle East for a Muslim Arab to live. Especially a homosexual or transgender one. Best health care, best human rights, open democracy. Isreal has proven how effective walls are against terrorism effectively shutting down the suicide bombers on the early 2000's. Netanyahu told Trump how effective the walls/border Israel have built in the South at keeping out illegal migrants from Africa.

The Palestinians have rejected deal after deal and each time the deal has got worse. If they where offered the 1948 deal again they'd jump at it. Trump is going to move the process forward in a way which is will make the Palestinians realise their past folly in rejecting numerous prior offers.

This is why Ernie can't bring himself to condemn Trump, despite being a rabid anti-semite.

Ernie isn't anti-Semitic and neither is Trump (daughter converted and married to fairly Orthodox Jew, Jewish Treasury Secretary (previously senior person in Trump campaign), very pro-Israel ambassador to both UN amd Israel itself etc etc). Trumpmis going to move the relationship between the US and Israel much further forward and much closer than it has been for the past 8 years under Obama

Trump is going to move the process forward in a way which is will make the Palestinians realise their past folly in rejecting numerous prior offers.

That sounds just like the kind of chilling threat Trump would make, only a bit more verbose, obvs 😉

Its blindingly obvious that his muslim ban is manna from heaven for islamist recruiters, there will be a hardening in the arab world, israel will feel it, there will be more bloodshed, the cycle of violence will continue

Mexican are suicide bombers ?

and Trump forgot to mention the jews on Holocaust day . Not sure that went down too well .

Jamba - even for you that is ridiculous.

cchris2lou - Member
and Trump forgot to mention the jews on Holocaust day . Not sure that went down too well .

Oh Im sure it was received exactly as [s]that shitweasel and anti semite[/s] Steve Bannon intended

Well played (on the verbose). For the Palestinians it is chilling I am sorry to say. Abbas is 80 no one believes he can negotiate anything which will last. Hamas just want to fight amd destroy Israel. That's not going to end well. If you look back at what the Palestinians could have had as a state in 1948 it's very depressing for them, they have been consistently poorly lead. Imappreciate they with Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Jordon thought they could obliterate Israel and "have it all" but it hasn't worked out for them and now the others have moved on leaving them isolated.

Trump is going to base his view of Israel on Judea, the Jewish land of the old Testament from 1000BC

Tom_W1987 - Member

This is why Ernie can't bring himself to condemn Trump

I have [i]repeatedly[/i] described Trump as "odious and obnoxious".

I have [i]repeatedly[/i] pointed out that Trump has "boasted of sexually assaulting women, and mocks the disabled".

I have [i]repeatedly[/i] described Trump as a bigot and a racist.

I have [i]repeatedly[/i] pointed out that Trump has sown devision and hatred.

And you are waiting for me to condemn him? 😆

Tom mate, you are starting to sound as ridiculous as ninfan.

Hi Ernie! You tell 'em!

Trump is going to base his view of Israel on Judea, the Jewish land of the old Testament from 1000BC

well good job trump isnt going to base his actions on what genetics has shown us- that the ashkenazi jews originated in southern turkey, Erdogan would have to unleash all those warplanes we just sold him

The live streams of the demonstrations at JFK right now against Trumps latest ignominy are quite inspiring , its great to see so many people united against the kind of bigotry and stupidity Trump and his fanboys on here represent.

I have to say I hve seen many ridiculous things on STW and on this thread but Jambas assertion that " Israel is the best place in the Middle East for a Muslim Arab to live. Especially a homosexual or transgender one. Best health care, best human rights, open democracy" and toms assertion that Ernie is an antisemite are probably unbeatable.

Talking about stupidity, not only was his daughter registered to vote in two states during the election, but so were Bannon, Spicer, Kushner and Mnuchin

Jamba - this is the remains of the hospital and university in Gaza after the israelis made sure they all had good healthcare

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TJ the Isrealis built a hospital in Gaza prior to their withdrawl in 2005, in order to protect against Egyptain attacks much is underground. Hamas use much of the space now for military purposes. Hamas use UN schools, residential areas and hospitals to store and launch missiles. I can post you a link of Isreali's treating injured Syrians who approach the border for assistance.

Obama has been the most pro-Palestinian President since Carter (Bush would not even say the word). The Palestinians continue to make bad choices, sadly it's my belief they will regret very much not moving forward with negotiations in 2014. The next offer they get is going to be materially worse.

Trumps first Weekly Address

It’s only been a week and his hair’s already getting lazy. I give it a month before it’s fallen off the top and cascading down his back, in solidarity with his voting public.

And I can quote the ex-heads of Shin Bet who say things like

"We are making the lives of millions unbearable, into prolonged human suffering, [and] it kills me," Carmi Gillian

and

"[We’ve become] a brutal occupation force similar to the Germans in World War II," Avraham Shalom

A Syrian family with visas to travel to the US was prevented from boarding a flight bound from Paris to Atlanta on Saturday, and returned to their departure airport of Beirut, Lebanese airport sources said.

Cairo airport officials said five Iraqi passengers and one Yemeni were barred from boarding an EgyptAir flight to New York despite holding valid US visas.

Two Iraqi men, a former US government worker and the husband of a former US security contractor, who had visas to enter America, were also detained on Friday night (local time) at a New York airport.

One of the men has since been released, and immigration lawyers have lodged a lawsuit on their behalf.

Two travellers with dual Canadian and Iranian citizenship were also barred from boarding planes in Canada that were headed to the US, officials said.

"It's working out very nicely. You see it at the airports, you see it all over," Mr Trump said, after denying the immigration halt was a Muslim ban.

He is going to have to build a wall with Canada too after their PM said he was welcoming people turned away from the US .

So that's a friend of mine banned from entering America. His job? International student recruitment. He helps American kids study and work abroad and british kids study and work in America, he's a British citizen, but now he's been banned from the country to "prevent terrorism". If you can't see this is messed up, what hope for you?

If he is traveling on British Passport no, otherwise, yes. 🙄

I'm new to politics threads, so how does this work then? Does Chekwk post an apology, or just ignore the fact they were wrong, and pretend they never said something blatantly untrue?

No he just rants off in another direction like the other 2 attention seekers. Be sure though that their devotion to the dear leader is strong and unwavering.

Jamie - Member
If he is traveling on British Passport no, otherwise, yes.
I'm new to politics threads, so how does this work then? Does Chekwk post an apology, or just ignore the fact they were wrong, and pretend they never said something blatantly untrue?

Why would he apologise

It's apologising that lost lefties the election!

Why would he apologise

It's apologising that lost lefties the election!

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-38786119 ]Scottish vet refused flight[/url]

I'm not bothered by trump sounding off with his irrational rants, that's to be expected as he's a ****ing balloon (as are those who place their trust in him) but I honestly thought there would be some form of checks & balance working behind the scenes of the whitehouse to dampen down his irrational rants and presidential orders but that appears to not be the case.

If the orange tinged ****er ever comes to Scotland again I'll try my damnest to ensure he gets a taste of his own policies, or I may just save a few foul eggs from the hens to pelt him with, should be more than worth a few days in jail to see him smacked in the face

and in what is unfortuinatly an entirely predictable outcome

When another person tried to calm him down, Brown said Rhodes moved away from the door and Khan ran out of the office. Rhodes followed her, got down on his knees and began to bow down in imitation of a Muslim praying, shouted obscenities and said "Trump is here now. He will get rid of all of you. You can ask Germany, Belgium and France about these kind of people. You see what happens," Brown said.

I honestly thought there would be some form of checks & balance working behind the scenes of the whitehouse to dampen down his irrational rants and presidential orders but that appears to not be the case.

I naively thought/hoped the same as I didn't fully understand the presidential orders bit. Glad we don't have these in the UK....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38786660

Glad we don't have these in the UK....

"I honestly thought there would be some form of checks & balance working behind the scenes"

Me too, and I think there still are:

http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2014/01/what-are-executive-orders-what-are-their-limits.html

I see May has stopped defending him and finally made a meally mouthed condemnation of Trump's ridiculous policy.

Being the first leader to meet him looking even stupider now.

On the plus side May is being exposed as out of her depth and incompetent in a way we've not seen since ...... she was foreign secretary.

Has Trump tweeted about the judge decision yet?
That should send him into overdrive.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
All quiet, must have lost his phone charger during the move

Like Hitler, they don't want to wake him up.

" May ... she was foreign secretary"

Cite!

Couldn't they have achieved almost the same thing without the total incompetent disaster element by just not granting visas to the relevant applicants? Yes, there'd be a short delay while people with previously granted visas travelled but that's not a significant drawback.

Yeah my bad !

May as HOME Secretary at least she only tried it with some shitstirring vans

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She should have warned trump how much trouble that caused her.

Good advice from the US Dept of Defence....

Social media postings sometimes provide an important window into a person’s #mentalhealth. Know what to look for. https://t.co/B0tPAHwjVK https://t.co/AbXrw2QhQd

An order to Defense Secretary Jim Mattis to come up with a plan within 30 days to defeat so-called Islamic State

"The feeling of injustice is so big, and this ban is so demeaning! Shame!" - Syrian scientist working on skin cancer research and living in Germany who now finds she cannot travel to Philadelphia in February to visit colleagues.

"Dreams shattered" - cardiology fellow from Jordan whose Syrian wife's family cannot come to visit in the US.

"We may try our chances with other countries" - Iranian professional in Washington DC, whose wife is now stuck in Iran.

Visa/travel ban is a 90 day order. It quite rational that just because one person is in the US that their whole extended family does not have a right to visit the US. Trump said he would impose restrictions "until we figure out what is going on"