And to Donald Trump.
You always have to be on guard against fascists like [s]trump and farage.[/s] nifan.Please call me a leftie nifan..I need some flattery.
Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao and Tito were lefties as well. do we need to be on our guard against people like them too?
I agree completely - many a leftie has been a dictator.
Same as many a man has been a serial killer. Doesn't mean one has to be associated by default to a particular behaviour of said category.
Extremists are like shit. Spread out they do a bit of good but in a pile they stink.
Soooo, May (the female pm) is fair game for anal jokes now that she held Trump's hand.May's ass got patriarched
And to think that some of you didn't believe in #WomensMarch.
Don't worry, it's only locker room talk, so it doesn't count....
Putin must be laughing himself hoarse over Trump's latest stupidity - US alienates every Muslim in the known universe from ISIS terrorists to little old ladies, queues form at the recruiting offices of every bunch of nutjobs in the region, and in the space vacated by Washington, a hungry bear licks its chops!
Why arent Saudi's on his banned list?
Because they've got loads of oil. And money.
cause it's just the first attack against iran, and the saudis are the "good guys" in that particular fight.wilburt - Member
Why arent Saudi's on his banned list?
Iran is the ultimate prize here.
So if there's no terrorist attack on the US over the next few months Trump claims victory. If there is an attack then Trump claims his measures have been vindicated and extends the ban to anyone who looks a funny colour (except orange), anyone with a funny sounding name and anyone who dresses funny. Unless they've got oil.
Meanwhile those who seek to radicalise have a clear message about US (sic) and Them, making their task easier.
And if some crazy white American goes on a shooting spree killing innocent people Trump will stand up for the right to bear arms and defend the American way,leaving weapons in the hands of anyone who wants them.
Don't make no sense.
Why arent Saudi's on his banned list?
Duh! Because the Saudi government is stable and is working in conjunction with the US to offer effective pre-visa vetting of their citizens.
Hardly rocket surgery is it?
You might also notice that he hasn't introduced restrictions on Indonesia (largest Muslim population in the world) ****stan (second), India (third) or Bangladesh (fourth) - so far from 'alienating every Muslim in the known universe' he has completely left alone the 43% of global Muslims living in those four countries alone.
Still, we wouldn't want any inconvenient facts to get in the way of outraged virtue-signalling leftie rhetoric, would we?
"You might also notice that he hasn't introduced restrictions on Indonesia (largest Muslim population in the world) ****stan (second), India (third) or Bangladesh (fourth) - so far from 'alienating every Muslim in the known universe' he has completely left alone the 43% of global Muslims living in those four countries alone."
I hadn't noticed that, good point.
I thought he had a problem with people who cut other people's heads off? Or was he himself virtue signalling when he said
"When they're chopping off the heads of our people, and other people... when ISIS is doing things that nobody has ever heard of since medieval times, would I feel strongly about waterboarding? As far as I'm concerned, we have to fight fire with fire,"
Where did the 9-11 hijackers come from? Who's bank rolling ISIS and that chap Bin Laden where did he come from?
He hasn't banned people from those countries because he has business interests in them.
He hasn't banned people from those countries because he has business interests in them.
I'd assumed he hasn't banned them because the US doesn't get refugee applications from them. It's crude and unfair instrument, but I presume that he doesn't want to admit folk without adequate documentation/proof of identity.
You might also notice that he hasn't introduced restrictions on Indonesia (largest Muslim population in the world) ****stan (second), India (third) or Bangladesh (fourth) - so far from 'alienating every Muslim in the known universe' he has completely left alone the 43% of global Muslims living in those four countries alone.
Aah I see. So Muslims in the countries not named by Trump will be perfectly fine with the persecution of their co-religionists.
Still, don't let common sense get in the way of your silly trolling.
I'd assumed he hasn't banned them because the US doesn't get refugee applications from them. It's crude and unfair instrument, but I presume that he doesn't want to admit folk without adequate documentation/proof of identity.
That's a total non-sequitur. The people banned are not just refugees - they even include Green Card holders.
The prime minister of Bangladesh doesn't seem to be one of those he has "alienated" with his "anti-Muslim rhetoric"
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Err - that is dated in November last year...
That's a total non-sequitur. The people banned are not just refugees - they even include Green Card holders.
It's a poorly implemented (interim) policy, with side effects that were either unintended, or considered acceptable to achieve the goal.
Its a clear piece of propaganda driven nonsense. Refugees and muslims are not the problem.
It's a poorly implemented (interim) policy, with side effects that were either unintended, or considered acceptable to achieve the goal.
I'm sure the folk now prevented from getting back to their families, jobs and classrooms will take a similarly enlightened view.
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You might also notice that he hasn't introduced restrictions on Indonesia (largest Muslim population in the world) ****stan (second), India (third) or Bangladesh (fourth) - so far from 'alienating every Muslim in the known universe' he has completely left alone the 43% of global Muslims living in those four countries alone.
I would have thought that Muslims around the world would band together in this complete and utter absurdity. I would also have thought that your average Trump voter won't have the brains to tell the difference between an Indonsian and Syrian, once they hear the word Muslim.
I would hope that all Muslims are indeed affronted.
I'm happy to join anyone who condems terrorists, except those that I think are freedom fighters.
I'm sure the folk now prevented from getting back to their families, jobs and classrooms will take a similarly enlightened view.
What's your problem? Is this your normal method of engagement?
I'm just posting the explanation, not advocating it.
Muslims around the world would band together
You think that Trump stopping refugees coming in will change 1300 years of Muslims killing each other?
You think that Trump stopping refugees coming in will change 1300 years of Muslims killing each other?
If the Catholics and Protestants can do it, who knows?
Still, don't let common sense get in the way of your silly trolling.
why was the point being made silly trolling ? It seemed perfectly reasonable to me. Muslims aren't a single entity, some unaffected might be upset but many others won't be.
Still, we wouldn't want any inconvenient facts to get in the way of outraged virtue-signalling leftie rhetoric, would we?
I'm pretty neutral politically, but on this thread the above is becoming all to true, IMHO.
[quote=ernie_lynch ]Trump would have fully understood the significance of leading Theresa May by the hand in front of the world's photographers and TV cameras.Or he was, you know, being polite and gentlemanly.
he is , you know, well known for being polite and gentlemanly
So now Theresa May refusing to condemn Trumps actions drags her into his latest debacle.
Always wash your hands after touching something shitty!
The China situation could get very interesting.
Wait....so Sir Mo Farrah is now banned from the US?
Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao and Tito were lefties as well. do we need to be on our guard against people like them too?
The far left and far right have more in common with each other than the rest of the political spectrum.
This is why Ernie can't bring himself to condemn Trump, despite being a rabid anti-semite.
Jamie - Member
Wait....so Sir Mo Farrah is now banned from the US?
If he is traveling on British Passport no, otherwise, yes. 🙄
Mercia can ban who they want and as they like, nothing to do with the rest of the world.
Aah I see. So Muslims in the countries not named by Trump will be perfectly fine with the persecution of their co-religionists.
Still, don't let common sense get in the way of your silly trolling.
Not to mention the racist fervour such policies incite.
Tom - that is libelous. Ernie may be many things but he is not a bigot in any form. He, like I, and many other abhor what the Israeli state is doing to the Palestinians but that does not make us anti semites. It makes us people who hate injustice and the apartheid state Israel has become
Only took a few hours
http://www.caller.com/story/news/2017/01/28/victoria-mosque-destroyed-early-morning-blaze/97183106/
If he is traveling on British Passport no, otherwise, yes
You sure about that?
Like really really, sure?
As an aside, being giving the rolly eyes treatment by Chekwk. Heh.
he must have a gb passport as he is in the gb squad , but hopefully he will boycot the USA .
"polite and gentlemanly"
Funnily enough, it seems he is:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5d8zop/serious_people_who_have_met_or_dealt_with_donald/
Ernie may be many things but he is not a bigot in any form
You don't think that Ernie is just a little bit intolerant of those holding different opinions?
he must have a gb passport as he is in the gb squad , but hopefully he will boycot the USA .
Doesn't he live there (Farah)?
Well it seems that Most Farrah is included
Conservative MP Nadhim Zahawi also believes he is
Yet still May is too cowardly to condemn trump
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/01/british-citizens-hit-donald-trumps-visa-ban