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that a 13 year old girl who is being horrendously bullied at school has now been told that she has to go home at lunch times because the school cant cope with the bullying. They know it is happening but wont stop it and would rather exclude the victim rather than deal with the problem. It really does take the P**s big time. Why do bullies get so much attention and not told to take a hike themselves. I know there have been other posts here about similar things but Jesus CHRIST it makes me angry. 😡


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 6:44 pm
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it costs £40k to exclude someone from school. cheaper to keep the bullies and have the bullied move to a new school.

pretty sickening


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 6:46 pm
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don't tell us, tell your local paper, your mp, the tv companies, your council, mumsnet... we may be sympathetic, but mumsnet will kick their sorry ar53s


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 6:47 pm
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How does it cost £40k to exclude someone??


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 6:47 pm
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It is pathetic and a very very sad reflection on our society today.


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 6:48 pm
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not nice. Poor girl


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 6:56 pm
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check the schools policies most say if bullying is taking place they will involve the children commiting the acts parents, if they dont go to the LEA and paren partnership NO school wants them involved.....


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 7:06 pm
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It's terrible. I'd hate to think of my kids being bullied.


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 7:14 pm
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As Will1 - how the hell does it cost forty grand to exclude a kid from school?


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 7:16 pm
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it costs £40k to exclude someone from school. cheaper to keep the bullies and have the bullied move to a new school.

daily mail factoid?


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 7:40 pm
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Its really horrible, she is a really sweet, lovely girl and I just don't know why anyone would want to bully her. The bullies are from quite rough families who really don't give a toss and think people are over-reacting. It literally makes me feel sick but unfortunately she is the daughter of a family friend and her parents are at their wits end and don't know what else to do and if the school wont listen to them they wont listen to me. I might get my parents to start encouraging them to make a fuss outside the school. Local MP and paper sounds like a good start to me......


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 8:10 pm
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my daughter experienced pretty extreme bullying/assualt this year. the £40k figure came from someone in the local gov education dept, and covers all the admin and professional costs incurred in the exclusion process. don't forget how many hand wringing bed wetters have to make sure the bullies are ok.


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 8:16 pm
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My cousin had this - in the end she went to another school and is doing far better there.

The head actually locked her in the office with my Aunt and refused to let them out the room and accused them both of making it up. She wouldn't let my cousin leave as she was meant to be in lessons but her GP had made her stay off as at 12 she was suffering from stress and starting to show signs of eating issues.

I used to do work at said school as part of a council job I had - we weren't allowed to attend the school without a senior manager present as she would verbally abuse members of staff from the LEA.

****ing bitch that she is.


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 8:24 pm
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STW, twinned with mumsnet


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 8:26 pm
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That £40k sounds like one of those bullshit made up figures. The admin staff are suerly there for that kind of work and will be earning no where near that!! If no one is being excluded the admin staff still get paid anyway so that £40k figure would be banded about for some other cause that needs 'admin' staff. Once again a load of corporate bullshit.

Hope it gets sorted for the kid, it can't be a nice situation.


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 8:50 pm
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Hmm. If the head is uncooperative, perhaps a move to another school is the best bet, depending on whether the bullying is a long term issue or not. That is, the bullies may either grow out of it or move on to another victim.

I was (physically) bullied for a couple of terms at secondary school so took up karate, hit one of them hard and they just started picking on someone else (though it never really stopped altogether).

Oh, and the karate didn't actually make me any harder, but the word got round, and martial arts classes work wonders for the confidence - maybe suggest it to your friend? Even if it's mental bullying rather than physical, this approach may still be helpful.


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 9:02 pm
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You need to take your school to task and ask them in no uncertain terms how they will resolve this. Take a notebook and make quotes where you can.

Your daughter is the victim of bullies and a badly managed school. The school needs to do all it can to resolve the situation.


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 9:08 pm
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she is a really sweet, lovely girl and I just don't know why anyone would want to bully her

The answer I fear, might be right there........."sweet lovely girl".

Moving school would seem a probable answer. Specially as I would have little faith in a school which needed a kick up the arse to get their act together......even if they managed to do it.

I also think user-removed's suggestion is worth considering....the 'confidence' factor [i]is[/i] important.....and word will get round.

Good luck


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 10:35 pm
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BTW if their is physical bullying then it becomes a child protection issue, social services can then be brought in to give the school and bullying families an almight kick up the arse


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 10:41 pm
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suggestion (that's probably rubbish)

get a copy of the school's anti bully/ bully policy
get a list of the govenors
write to all the govenors, the LEA, local councillor and MP, attend MP's constituency "clinic"
and get the kid to phone childline, (you never know Esther might turn up with a pair of bombers)

[b]ask all where in policy does the kid who gets bullied get sent home[/b]

in each and every case of physical violence phone the police and insist on reporting a crime, take pictures etc

if viable move schools because the head is a moomin and they are unlikely to fire them/ ask them to move on


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 10:51 pm
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Call the parents, as many as possible, from the school to help buy putting pressure on the headmaster.


 
Posted : 19/09/2010 11:10 pm
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The bullies should be sent home - period.

Too many teachers whimp out and allow bullies to dominate proceedings! These people need to grow some balls!

Someone said the £40k cost of excluding a bully was a Daily Mail Factoid. Stupid comment! Who reads the Daily ****ing Mail? It's a comic!

There's no way it costs £40k to exclude a child. This a nonsense bandied about by people who have absolutely no commercial savvy whatsoever!

The solution is for the parents of the bullied girl to threaten legal action against the school. Now this [u]IS[/u] something that would make the school sit up and take note.

It's also possible that the cost of excluding the bullied child could cost as much as £40k. If this happened, the schools would find it much easier to get rid of the troublemakers, or simply resolve the matter.

Now that would send out the right message!


 
Posted : 20/09/2010 2:16 am
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go above the heads head as it were - complain to the LEA / council / whoever has the responsibilities for the school.

Unf9ortuant fact - its the folk who make the most noise that get the best deal - so here family need to make the most noise!


 
Posted : 20/09/2010 7:21 am
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Once all the admininstrative costs for the procedures that are involved in permenantly excluding a child are added up and combined with the cost of providing education (which is still a requirement) possibly on a one-to-one basis, a figure like £40k doesn't seem that excessive. I'm not saying that it is the cost but it wouldn't surprise me.


 
Posted : 20/09/2010 8:04 am