MegaSack DRAW - This year's winner is user - rgwb
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Having a chat with a few workmates a common theme was that that hated the area in which they lived in.
I went through this with the wife whilst living in Sheffield so we moved to where she was born in Perthshire and have improved our life by an infinite amount. I guess not everyone has the luxury of being able to make such a big upheaval but do you like where you live?
I absolutely love where I live. Right in the middle of New Forest in a small village where I can walk 50 metres up the road and be in the trees or ride onto some singletrack and fire roads. Very quiet, very clean air, nice neighbours.
It wasn't cheap though...
Yep, I certainly do and it'll surprise some people that I live in Croydon, South London!
Obviously I'd like to be in the mountains or near a beach but at my current time of life, living here really suits.
I've got a good job. It's exciting to see the recent changes to the town and the massive changes that are about to happen. London is on my doorstep. Countryside is within cycling distance. Transport links are good. Some parts are a bit crappy along with some of the people but you get that everywhere.
Took advantage of 2017’s silly house prices and sold up for nearly four times what I paid. Moved from a grubby maisonette above an Indian restaurant located between two traffic-heavy roads with no garden, to a small town in some Spanish mountains.
Small single-story house, garden, orange trees, plunge pool, best friends as neighbours, warm sun in the Autumn into winter. Hot days for 70% of the year, low cost of living...
Take a guess. 🤗
Live in Chesterfield. It's a standard small town. I like the bit we live in, good schools, friends and lots of local shops.
However the best part is being so close to the Peak District. We could be closer if we lived the other side of town but those areas don't have as many local amenities.
Do sometimes think that I'd like to live a lot closer to the Peak District, or in it, but then the kids would be brought up in a really small village and they probably wouldn't appreciate that.
Pretty much yes. Only fly in the ointment is that it's in Yorkshire.
Royal Leamington Spa.
#livingthedream
Very much.
No, not really. My flat is nice enough, it's very convenient for work and shops, but the riding is shit and it's so hard to get away from traffic and urban areas.
Living in Kent but would like to find a job in the north, with a vague idea of moving abroad eventually.
Yep, I certainly do and it’ll surprise some people that I live in Croydon, South London!
Obviously I’d like to be in the mountains or near a beach but at my current time of life, living here really suits.
I’ve got a good job. It’s exciting to see the recent changes to the town and the massive changes that are about to happen. London is on my doorstep. Countryside is within cycling distance. Transport links are good. Some parts are a bit crappy along with some of the people but you get that everywhere.
This, but for North London. We are lucky to have a generous house, garden and double garage leading out to a private court. We couldn’t afford our house nowadays. The main issue I have is with inconsiderate people - I’m seemingly less able to ignore “people” noise” from outside e.g. standing in the street at 2am talking, this mornings pavement slab cutting at 7:20am by BT, or waking up to find someone had dumped the now empty contents of McDonalds out of thier car window into the street pisses me off.
I’d quite like to think we could retire to a quiet hamlet with polite or no neighbours and some glorious landscape for pooling on a RocketFlareMax-alike when we retire.
Settle, love it. Might not stay here for ever but it's been great so far (4 years).
Yes, I love where I live, even though it is universally acknowledged as a post apocalyptic shithole.
If you can see past that, though, the advantages are enormous.
I live within easy commuting distance of two major cities. Transport links are good to both.
I can be on either the M8 and M74 within 10 mins of leaving the house and the M80 in 20 mins. I can be in the Tweed valley in 45 mins
I am able to live in a very nice 7 bedroom detached house with a huge garden for less than some people pay for a one bedroom flat.
The town is right on the outside edge of the urban sprawl of Glasgow so I can jump on my bike and be in the proper countryside in minutes.
It might be a post industrial wasteland but I love it
Love the location and the area generally but I hate the way people act around here. Brexit illness.
North Nottinghamshire.
West Ledeerville, Perth. Moved here from Copenhagen, which I thought would be hard to beat, but it does.Great little suburb with good facilities and school, walking distance to bars/restaurants/coffee yet still quiet, walking distance to work. Kids still run up and down streets to each others houses. Close enough to the city if I want and close enough to some of the best beaches you'll find. Only came down here for three years max., 4.5 years ago, and can't see us leaving anytime soon.
Downside is distance from anywhere else, but if you're prepared to fly then that goes away. The flip side to this is that if you hop in your car and drive a few hours, you'll see some amazing scenery that's still pretty untouched.
Yes, we have lived in Wimbledon for the last 20 years. Nice park opposite the house, Wimbledon common and Richmond park nearby. Great for work in central London with good public transport and reasonable cycling routes in as well. Can be in Surrey hills reasonably quickly and on the cx bikes can be off road out to the hills with only a couple of miles of road. The area is safe and has a lot of families bringing up kids, has good restaurants, a high quota of middle class toss options and cinemas and is fairly diverse culturally. Good local pub, Hop Back brewery two streets away. Traffic can be a pita but for working in London it’s great. Long term may move to the complete opposite in rural Ireland but that has as many issues as living in a city.
not toooo bad in lincoln, its a nice city as cities go, and we're in a village just outside. luckily i dont have to do the rush hour commute, whenever i do have to drive through that particular nightmare im eternally grateful for the fact that my job isnt 9-5. id prefer yorkshire if i could choose elsewhere in the uk.
im 54 with a plan to live in italy when im 60, but...... plans dont always work out. something to aim for tho.
Yes. I live in a small village and I enjoy the familiarity within the community.
The downside is poor public transport links. I don't work locally and have to do a 70 mile commute on B roads each day. It's like paying a second mortgage.
Yes.
Otherwise, I wouldn't live there.
I live on the beach in a fabulous part of the South Coast.. you’d think I’d love it wouldn’t you..
Well it has it plus points, plenty of water sports and beaches and the leafy brackish shorelines and yachts and boats and all sorts..
Butt..
Its actually full of inconsiderate morons, most of them are easily identifiable so it’s fairly easy to manoeuvre around them.. but that’s not what should happen in your life right?
So, after 26 years I’m considering moving.
I’ve been lucky, I bought an apartment in London to allow me to work and walk home within 15mins, sold that a couple of years ago after the referendum just before prices lost 20% so happy that I did that then.. that does allow me to make more informed choices now..
Its just I have to decide where I want to live..
So 50/50 really
So 50/50 really
surely you mean 0.33%?
Yes. Love it. When we moved to Calderdale I thought it'd be a short term thing before going back to Scotland, but there's more life here than I could get in Scotland, we've got decent jobs, friends and argh! a son who's a genuine Yorkshire lad! And i've got lovely countryside outside the door (alright it doesn't go on infinitely to a beautiful coastline - you cant have everything). Stuck here, cant see us moving - its not where i'm from but its home.
In the grand scheme of things I can think of a lot worse places to live than Kettering.
Small town mentality and slightly behind the times with regards to life but there is a lot of countryside for road rides if that's your thing. Centrally located so I can get to a fair bit of riding up and down the country to ride within a 2 hour drive in any direction.
Swings and roundabouts..
I live on the coast in North Northumberland.
Love it.
Surrounded by beautiful beaches and 30 minutes drive from the last English wilderness.
We have a lovely house, built 1820'ish.
Really strong sense of community in the village and the Mrs runs a business from home.
No intention of moving anywhere soon.
We're in Sheffield and both really like it!
Two minute walk from front door to Pentland hills. 20 minute bike ride to the centre of one of the most beautiful and vibrant cities in the world. Biggest arts festival in the world every August. Tons of great restaurants. Lovely leafy 900 year old village. Nice house. Great neighbours. 30 minute drive to Glentress. A three hour drive and I'm in the heart of the Cairngorms. Loads of loads of amazing countryside to walk and bike in, with some of the best access laws in the world.
Okay, the weather could be better but other than that can't think of a better place in the world to live.
100%..and more !
I live in Bellingham " Capital Of The North Tyne " & "Gateway To The Cheviots" ..in a fairly new but modest 3bed semi ..with a million dollar view of the North Tyne Valley ..
The mountain biking in the area is fantastic ..and I feel so lucky being here ..
I live on the coast in North Northumberland
Whereabouts? We live just over the Border but spend a lot of time in Alnmounth, Alnwick, Bamburgh, Beadnell areas and it is a lovely place to be. It was actually our decant plan in the event of the independence referendum going the wrong way!
I'm struggling to imagine a better place for us as a family at the moment.
Green, clean, safe, ace schools, brilliant riding, mountains up the road, employment, good transport, great voluntary clubs for the kids etc.
I live on the Shore in Leith in a quirky flat. I have offices below me and 3 flats in the attic where I am so almost no noise issues. I have 25+ eating and drinking establishments with 400m, I have a beach a couple of miles away, I have Edinburgh centre a couple of miles away. Fantastic public transport, I can cycle out to the hills of the pentlands offroad. I can cycle out of the city in half an hour but have all the facilities of a city to hand. I have fantastic 360 degree views - the pentlands, corstorphine hill, bass rock, the forth, Edinburgh castle and arthurs seat, its a 5 min cycle to work. I have no need nor desire to own a car.
downsides - shopping is poor locally especially for food. Its 8 miles to the hills, its 104 stairs to my flat and everything has to go up the stairs, Edinburgh city council is the worst I have come across
Very relevant question for me. The wife and me are desperate to move, but it would mean moving away from my daughter who currently spends 50/50 time with me and her mum (ex wife) So, as much as I want to move and as much as I am sure it would improve our quality of life, it feels like I would abandoning my little girl and I just cannot do it.
Huddersfield and loving it! And Doctor Who is from here too!
Mountains to the right of me , hills to the rear of me and the sea to the left.
I'm happy.
Mountains to the right of me , hills to the rear of me and the sea to the left.
I’m happy.
Aberystwyth?
Yup Iive in the North so it’s ace.
Loads of countryside, hills, beaches and steeped in history.
No idea about Dr Who connections.
I used to love Northampton but now it's a dump. I'd leave in a heartbeat if it wasn't for my daughter. I can't move away from her as it would further reduce the amount of time I see her for.
Small village on the Thames, surrounded by NT countryside, loads of hills and bridleways, excellent road cycling. Got a 300 acre wood out of the back door
In an AONB so won't be built on, unlike most of the towns nearby.
The only downside - to me - is the number of deer, and the number of ticks we get just walking in the back garden
Middle of Bristol - love it.
Trails near my doorstep, walk and cycle everywhere, likeminded neighbours, thriving local high street, good eats and beer. Rubbish air quality and growing popularity is about all that spoils it.
Love the location and the area generally but I hate the way people act around here. Brexit illness.
North Nottinghamshire.
Ditto!
Whereabouts? We live just over the Border
Seahouses, well actually North Sunderland, the old part of the village and away from the fish and chips.
NO, I live in a village in south leeds. it is shyte.
proper gods waiting room.
leeds center is ok I suppose.
been trying to get the wife to up sticks for years to somewhere in Scotland. maybe one day.
Southern Black Forest, Germany... 30 mins from Basel in Switzerland
Its great. Sold up from Edinburgh and bought a place in a very small village. Now, mortgage free, great location and fantastic neighbours.
Biking straight from the door in the forest, local infrastructure works very well and is well funded. Great community engagement and interaction... Full on continental summers and very cold, dry winters, night skiing 15 mins away and local farmers prep XC langlauf from the village.
Local brewery, next door neighbour makes schnaps and cake to die for.
If I miss anything.. having lived in Edinburgh, its access to the sea and beaches like those in East Lothian. I do not miss all the brexit bollocks and pretty much everything bar colleagues, about the UK. If only German was easier to learn....
I live in Surrey in quite a quiet village. In fifteen minutes I can be riding in the Surrey Hills and can easily get a train into London or pop down to the South Coast for the day.
But..... I would sell up and move to North Devon tomorrow if I could.
I love the coastline and the sea, and just the way life seems to move a bit slower down there. I don't know if it's just me, but every time I go there it just feels 'right' and almost more 'home' than where I live.
As I get older (47) I feel like I'm almost wasting time by hanging around in Surrey. I realise I am very lucky to live in such a nice place but I also have the feeling that if I leave it a lot longer I might miss out on the chance.
Maybe it's just a pipe dream?
Moved from Camberwell, London to Warrandyte, Melbourne Australia (near to where I grew up) about 10 years ago. On the banks of the yarra river, mountain biking from the door, good road riding from the door also. Kayaking in the river, off lead dog walking down by the river (important for the dogs) and 20 minute commute by bike from work. Even got a decent pub within walking distance. Choice seems easy.
I spent 16 years in various parts of Kent and hate everything about the place. Too busy, traffic is horrendous, the majority of people seem to fall into 2 categories; chavs or self entitled snobs, expensive, barely any bridleways to ride and not really much to do with the kids unless you what to drive an hour to get anywhere.
Redundancy forced a move to Ferndown just north of Bournemouth and we are determined never to move from here.
The way of life is just much more relaxed and slower down here. The people are much friendlier and courteous. A traffic jam here equates to 5 cars waiting at the lights.
The beach is a few miles away. 15 minutes ride down a disused railway line and I'm in the New Forest in one direction and all the heath land around Poole in the other. The Purbecks and Wareham Forest are less than an hours ride from home.
It's really nice and a much better environment in which to raise our 2 daughters. Couldn't ask for more than that really.
I love Cardiff, but I don't like the actual location I live within the city. Ok so it's good for the riding (which is far better than Bristol 🙂 ) but not for much else. It's a big housing suburb on the edge of the city with crap transport links except for car and no shops except for a business park with Asda and DFS etc. We only live here because they were giving free house deposits away.
Yeah, it's alright you know. 10 minutes from the countryside and some good road riding, close to a station for work, quiet little town with some nice pubs, so yeah, it's not bad. I'd rather be in the mountains obviously but for what it is, it'll do the job.
Lived in Knaresborough throughout my childhood then moved to Harrogate (four miles up the road) and am pretty content. Sometimes I do wonder what it would be like to live somewhere completely different but with two girls nearing secondary school age I doubt we'll be doing that any time soon (as we know the schools are very good here). So we have loosely discussed the thought of moving somewhere completely different when the girls leave home. I'd like to downsize , pay off the mortgage and buy a nice camper van with some of what is left over. Unfortunately my wife is more of a 5 Star Hotel person than a camper van person and doesn't see the appeal.
Harrogate. It's simply divine 😉
"Mountains to the right of me , hills to the rear of me and the sea to the left.
I’m happy.
Aberystwyth?"
Nah - border of Aberdeen and shire. 30 mins from Aboyne and 50 minutes from ballater
Not a bad mix.
We moved from the outskirts of Edinburgh (100% what kennyp says) to Aviemore. Biggest mistake was waiting so long to do it. I occasionally hanker after a sea view, but having a campervan sorts that. Otherwise it's fantastic with so much riding, walking, skiing and paddling on the doorstep. Proper community feel to it and a good mix of locals with lots of folk having also moved here for the outdoor activities. Good pubs and food. 35 minutes to Inverness, a few minutes more to airport and less than 2 hours to the West Coast.
Only significant downsides I can think of are the somewhat bleak "high street" and the higher heating bills.
beautiful and vibrant cities in the world
Edinburgh?! Are you serious? Its not even the best city in scotland. Town that thinks its a city etc.
I live in Peebles. Its alright.
R’ogate shirley?
I’m up here ATM, shall be watching the Laahhndarn set floor thier RR’s up Cold Bath Road later 🤠
The main choice in R’ogate is where to eat tonight ? The farms rammed with family see...
Yup... another that lives beyond the shores of the British Isles.
Northern Odenwald, Germany (a bit more north than Black Forest).
Half way between back home and the Alps. Flat roads to one side to get the roadie headwind experience (tailwind home), hillier bits to the south and east/north-east for MTBing. A major international hub airport minutes away.
Also enjoyed Holland (but that's naff for MTBing/skiing, and their beer is awful in comparison, and gives you brain ache), Bristol, Guildford and Southampton before that.
We moved to my wifes hometown when we decided to have kids (up to the East Mids from leafy West Oxfordshire) and whilst I hated it at first, I now cant think of a better place to raise kids and base ourselves for the next 15yrs.
We've got decent state and private schools, its quiet, couple of pubs and nice restaurants, London is an hour on the train, there is actually plenty of jobs, there are plenty of fields / open spaces, the town still has the charm of people knowing your name, and pretty much all the country is a max of 2 hrs drive away. Yes houses are at the upper end of pricey, and the mountain biking is terrible, but thats what road trips to BPW etc are for. The fact that we have family here (childcare!) just makes it even better.
If I was 18 I'd have hated it and wanted out asap, but for this chapter of our lives its great.
Yeah, I like the environment of the South Downs. Good riding from the door, nice village with good neighbours, decent pub and friends nearby. Trains nearish and decent nearby towns. But I don't like the immediate environment - 40mph through the village including outside the school (read 50mph for lots of folk). Anyway, attempting to tackle that with the start of a traffic calming scheme and now a community speedwatch scheme. Get that sorted and it'll be right.
Skipton, North Yorks.
I like it very much. Smallish market town, great shops, pubs, restaurants. Good schools, easy to get to Manchester or Leeds should I need to.
And of course the Dales on the doorstep, great riding from the door, an hour to the Lakes too.
Spent 40 years in Enfield, North London, i was never meant to be a London suburb person. Moved to Stroud, Gloucestershire in 2011 & live in the suburbs here now. Its much better. Moved from one of the highest crime postcodes, to one of the lowest. Stroud is great, but i can't help feeling its missing an alpine mountain 10k outside of town...........
I kinda feel like i'm in a song:
Live in New York City once, but leave before it makes you hard
Live in Northern California once, but leave before it makes you soft
Mighta been a bit late leaving!
R’ogate shirley?
'arragut.
RM.
Following the death of the woman across the road, who was allowing her teenage daughter's friends to congregate in their car port, party, drink, smoke dope and make lots of noise late at night, we live in a peaceful road looking out over open farmland with great views to the west.
What we really hate is living on the edge of a northern mill town where there's a general lack of civic pride and respect for the rules, as well as weekend German saloon car races on the ring road, which we can hear easily at night. We have bought a building plot in Scotland and can't wait to get started on the build and get away from the town.
R’ogate shirley?
Nah, it's Harrow Gate!
It is a nice place though, I like it. Leeds and York both close by, Dales in one direction, Moors in t'other.
I'm currently tempted to move into one of surrounding villages though.
Live in suburban/market town Herts. It's alright. Miss living in a city tbh (Edit: Having been back in the suburbs for nearly 15 years not sure if this is grass is greener thinking). But then again nowhere I've lived ever seems like "home". :sigh:
Skipton, like Martin above. Think it’s great for all reasons listed and have no desire to move.
Work in Harrogate, wouldn’t want to live there.
Chalfont St Giles, Buckinghamshire. Lovely Chiltern countryside with some reasonable riding right out the door. Dog walkers are utter knobs and hate cyclists with a passion. To be fair, at least they are honest and tell you to your face. I'm with Choppersquad ^ , North Devon is my spiritual home.
Barcelona? S'ok. I've defiantly lived worse places.
So 50/50 really
surely you mean 0.33%?
More surely, you mean 100/3 % ; )
I love The People's Republic of Malvernistan.
I was born 'ere in the shires and farmed here before seeking fame and fortune in that there London town. When I'd had my fill of the city life I moved back to Worcestershire with Mr S and started a family here. Most people have no idea where Worcestershire is so tend to leave us alone 🙂
More locally, our home has no front door step; the door, quite literally, opens out on to a 6,000 acre AONB "front garden". I have had the pleasure of being able to walk my boys to and from their Primary school across a mile of common land each morning and afternoon. There's still the rural communal ethos, for now, although it gets chipped away each time more commuting dormitories are built in the villages.
I think the only other place we could happily live is Bristol. And much as I love the Alps, have a tiny property there, and indeed would love to live in the mountains all year round, I'd always favour living in Blighty over France.
I did, until I read Mr Woppit's post.
Not particularly. South Manchester. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of things to do. I usually like the business of living around a big city. But local crime rates are very high and I typically feel uncomfortable that a break in, or criminal damage is just around the corner. We've had several incidents over the last 3 odd years of being here. Also, I'm not very close to riding trails.
I did, until I read Mr Woppit’s post.
Given all that, You’d think he’d be cheerier wouldn’t you?
Tweed valley is lovely, great riding/running country, fairly quiet, nice neighbours. Love the area (when it's sunny!).
House less so, it's on a main road and has a tiny garden but it's those down sides which meant we could afford it
yes otherwise why live there?
i live in Crystal Palace which for me is ideal as i have trees and small nature reserve outside my window, a large park 1min away, ‘the triangle’ which has shops/restaurants/bars/hipster wine-beer shops/nick-nack shops that i never go in/ 2 bike shops/ and a newly opened art-house cinema.
within 25 mins i can be riding down quiet roads and onto the north downs.
only downside is the extra 10-15 min on my commute but i don't care about that as i mostly work from home and i wouldn’t swap what i have to be closer to central london. i lived a mile and a half closer in and it was horrible, terraced maisonette so you looked out on your neighbours a few feet away and no open spaces nearby.
i grew up in a small village which is nice but it would drive me up the wall after a few days now, im not ready for only talking about the village hall or if the post office is closing and when is broadband coming.
don't think i could live on one of those satellite new build estates with nothing to do and hemmed in by roads where all you have is going on is worrying about having a nice audi on the drive with a bigger engine than your neighbour.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-45956792
We moved from 8 years ago from Ockley in Surrey, an expensive commuter town with no soul to Innerleithen in The Scottish Borders.
Not only could we now afford to buy a house, I now have views of the hills out our windows and I can also watch all those happy riders cycling past my window on their way to and from the Golfie while I work all day inside... No really, I'm so pleased for them.
As a lot of you know, the town is just the right size, has a great buzz, amazing cycling and walking. Our neighbours are lovely and we are very very lucky.
Not to mention, a 40 minute drive over some stunning hills and we are in Edinburgh, one of the best cities anywhere.
Moving wasn't easy. My wife had a good job in the hospital, I was running a business and we had 3 children in school. Was it worth it? Absolutely. One of the best decisions we have ever taken. It was a chance and it could have gone horribly wrong but it has been better for us in every way possible.
I love living in Malvern, especially as the new house has a great view and lovely places to take the girls riding from the front door..
East Durham, on the coast. It's ok, far enough from my family that they don't visit and close enough to my other half's mam and dad's that it's a nice ride for Sunday dinner. There are some good bridleways around and about too. If we had the cash we'd be off up to Scotland in a trice though.
I rent in a village just outside Didcot. I also have a place in Weymouth. I am torn between the two, the main decider is the lack of work in Weymouth and that after a week there my kidneys and liver need a rest. I will go there to die, and that would probably take about a month of caning it.
The village near Didcot is paradise though. The MTB stuff is mainly the Ridgeway but Im only 40 mins from Swinley by train and although there is no public transport to Didcot, once there I can get anywhere easily.
I absolutely love where I live. Indeed, there are aspects to my home that make me giddy every time I see them.
We moved to Cardiff 13 years ago, and eventually bought a house in what I consider to be a perfect neighbourhood.
We’re in a humbler Victorian end-of-terrace on a cul-de-sac behind some not-so-humble three-storey Victorian terraces. There are two lovely parks within 500 metres of our front door, which means the kids can play outside all day, and we are a 20 minute walk from city centre.
The fact that there are places in the city from which you can see the hill to the north and west and the sea to the south with a mere head turn, plus have access to so much culture in a short walk, is amazing to me.
Only complaint? The city elders NEED to sort out the transport infrastructure with something sustainable and efficient. The city is growing faster than its roads can cope, and we need to think about ways in which we can eliminate the need for cars.
Work in Harrogate, wouldn’t want to live there
Why not?
Yes, live in Wollaston and love it, pubs,restaurants and supermarket locally with good riding 5 minutes from my door.
R’ogate shirley?
‘arragut.
One is a suburb of the other, I'll let you decide which is which 🤣
Granted Harrogate has its upsides, it’s got a Waitrose for a start. Pubs are a bit shit though, the Bell turned itself into a “chav Gin Bar” feeerchristsake whennit once was awesome for real ale and a bag of peanuts.
Now we go out of town to drink 🤦♂️ It’s fine I suppose and takes trade from the town, which IMO is good for spreading the wealth.
The Moots/Dales arenspitting distance from the Farm, when I used to ride a lot it was actually really flipping brilliant, now I trail run so drive to locations when here then run.. which is what I do at home 😜
North Devon is a place I’ve looked into heavily, surfing and calm lifestyle seems where my head is going these days..
But Harrogate as a home? Highly doubtful.
But it’s a pretty tittle town, out grown by its image though.
Another Cardiff dweller here, yep, it's lovely.
Only complaint? The city elders NEED to sort out the transport infrastructure with something sustainable and efficient. The city is growing faster than its roads can cope, and we need to think about ways in which we can eliminate the need for cars.
This with bells on. The new massive housing estates being built (which we desperately need) were supposed to come with their own Motorway junction, their own Train Station and cycle network, but between first and final plans that all seems to have been lost.
The trains look like cattle trucks during rush hour(s) and whilst it's fairly easy to get from anywhere to the City Centre and back (if you don't mind the crush) it's very hard to get from Suburb to Suburb. Cycle network is pretty good though.
