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Do I want a pizza oven?

 Drac
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I’ve got 3 bought a coupe on offer and a Ooni one.


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 8:09 pm
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*goes off to google pizza turning peel*

didnt know that was a thing, i find it easy enough to just use the normal metal peel, pull it out for a sec and move it 180 degrees by hand......


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 8:24 pm
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We bought a cheap turning peel off ebay for about a tenner. It works fine, much easier than a standard peel.

Quick question. Our burner is due to arrive tomorrow and as the plan is to use the burner when we are out and about, we are considering getting a gaslight bottle.

To help with the sums, how much gas would you guys expect to use on a heat and cook for 2 pizzas?


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 8:28 pm
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Gas light a very expensive way to get gas.

Look on Facebook for a 6kg propane from calor and refill them. Still expensive given 6kg LPG bottle is 7quid to fill.

Gaslight is just mugging you


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 10:15 pm
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I can't for the life of me find a cheap turning peel on ebay, or anywhere else.

£50+ seems like a lot for what it is.

I got 6kg Harris gas propane on eBay delivered - not cheap but I wanted it asap. I CBA finding a calor tank and I don't use FB - wasn't any on eBay or gumtree near me.

I could easily stick mine in the car - not sure how long it would last. I believe you could use camping gas if you just change the regulator over, though there is conflicting info on ooni's website about that.


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 10:43 pm
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genuine question, can i just ask what the problem is with the normal peel? isnt it just a case of shoving it under the pizza and bringing it out to turn, just the same as youll have to do when its finished anyway?


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 11:07 pm
 Drac
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Ah sorry I just use a normal peel.


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 11:08 pm
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wasn’t any on eBay or gumtree near me.

I'm not surprised. The early 2000s called they want their selling medium back 🙂


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 11:12 pm
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Yeah all the cool kids are on FB 😂

Watch a vid of the turning peel. You put it under half the pizza and pull then push the other half forwards.

Yes you can use a normal one, but the turning one is meant to make it much easier.


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 11:20 pm
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ok im going to bite..... i watched the turning peel video cos i didnt want to comment without having done so....

shove it under to the right, lift a bit, then to the left, lift a bit, centre, lift a bit, shuffle round a bit....

its actually quicker to just shove a normal peel under the whole pizza, bring it out, turn a bit by hand and back in. 2 or 3 seconds?

what am i missing??


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 11:48 pm
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Don't get one then! 🙂 I've seen people using them in pizza places and they do it way quicker than in the video I saw.

Definitely not necessary but then nor is a pizza oven.


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 11:55 pm
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I can’t for the life of me find a cheap turning peel on ebay, or anywhere else.

Peel on eBay


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 11:57 pm
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You shuffle the half cooked dough around on the hot stone rather than bringing it out in the cold and turning it by hand.

@Drac Come back! How much gas do you use for a pizza please? I know its an expensive system but it is also much lighter if we are going to be carrying it.


 
Posted : 05/08/2020 11:58 pm
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This video makes more sense than the ooni one which does make it look pointless

Thanks ajaj but that's more like a standard peel that's round - the turners are smaller as they aren't meant to cover the whole area of the pizza


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 12:00 am
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Gaslight is just mugging you

I made a graph of price per kg of gas, including the initial cylinder cost, for the big players and forecourt LPG. Not included is the return of the Calor deposit (whereas Flogas keep your money).

Propane price per kg


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 12:55 am
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I’ve honestly no idea how much gas I use per pizza. What I do know is that now I’ve had it for a couple of months I’m much more efficient in preparing them and cooking them.

At a guess I’ve made around 60 pizzas, 16 Naan’s, loads of tikka, crispy duck was finished in it and probably 4 or 5 lots of red meat portions.

Out of 10kg bottle I’ve got about half left, I did one very inefficient pizza party at my parents where taking and drinking meant it burned for almost 2 hours for about 10 pizzas. 😂

The gaslight 10kg is incredibly light so great for a mobile pizza oven which is kind of the point.


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 7:17 am
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Pretty sure I saw some figures for gas usage on the website or in the manual.


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 8:11 am
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The gaslight 10kg is incredibly light so great for a mobile pizza oven which is kind of the point.

I heard it’s soo light, it only weighs 3 or 4 kg...

DrP

😉


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 8:23 am
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Ajaj. Patio gas is also a mugging. For the same gas

Red bottle regular propane is the one


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 8:27 am
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0.28kg/hr for regular koda btw.


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 9:19 am
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trail_rat - can you let us know how cheap your gas was and how expensive the other options are again please? I feel like you haven't really hammered the point home yet.

I think my gas was around £1.30 for an hour's use according to that rate, not exactly gonna break the bank.


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 10:33 am
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I heard it’s soo light, it only weighs 3 or 4 kg…

Yup probably about how much the bottle weighs. 😀

Yes I could have bought a cheaper red calor bottle but it’s not exactly portable.


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 10:42 am
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Thats very helpful guys. Thank you.

Ajaj, that is very helpful but you really need to get out more 😉


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 12:49 pm
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Ooni Koda 16 arriving between 1245 and 1345! Exicited? Moi? 🙂


 
Posted : 17/09/2020 11:20 am
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I really want a pizza oven (we have a family pizza night every Saturday where we all make our own pizzas from scratch) but my wife doesn't see the point of an oven because 'they cook them too quickly so where is the value in one'!!!


 
Posted : 17/09/2020 11:46 am
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My dad was living with us last month.

Not a pizza fan as he is medically coeliac and often he just gets pre made full of preservative/sugar crap or when made at home in the oven the already dry gf dough dries out too quick as the oven takes too long to cook them

I'd played about with gf bread flour and made cookies(supposed to be pizza..... Just doesn't work and tastes rank.

Bruneep gave me some left over fioreglut Caputo gf flour....what a difference. You can tell the difference as a non coeliac but the dough actually acts like pizza dough and the cooked texture is different to gf bread flour much closer to gluten based flour Dough. I've eaten worse real pizzas from pizzarias.....

You have to work it different and you need deep pockets..... 7quid a kilo for fioreglut.-unless anyone has a better supplier.

Tdlr

He's just got him self a koda off the EU website he enjoyed the pizzas made in ours so much.


 
Posted : 17/09/2020 11:47 am
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£4.95 here but there is a delivery fee.

https://www.adimaria.co.uk/caputo-gluten-free-flour-1kg

Good for lots of other pizza ingredients though. Their cured meats are really good and not too expensive. Guanciale and truffle salami are both excellent on a pizza.

Enjoy nobeeerinthefridge - I'm slightly jealous of your extra girth.


 
Posted : 17/09/2020 12:41 pm
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Ah yes sorry should have been clear....I need an EU delivery option.

Tried buying in the EU and it's even more monies.

I did try and get it of adimaria as I just got my own Caputo from there last week.

I should have got it delivered here before he went back


 
Posted : 17/09/2020 1:04 pm
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We had a pizza night last night, probably our last of the year because of the weather

I bought the unni 2s due to this forum a good few years back, gets used a good few times a year. It's ace

Decided to do it in the day for dinner time. Pulled my last batch of frozen dough (jamie oliver recipe) and tomato sauce out the freezer, was defrosted in time

Because it was last minute I didn't have any mozzarella, used cheddar. Definitely not as good but still nice. My favourites are still garlic bread, just delicious

I use a metal peel to remove from the oven and a wooden chopping board to put it inside. Rolling takes place on a spare kitchen floor tile (2ft square) and then chopping takes places on a differnt kitchen floor tile before putting on a plate. Also use semoline on the chopping board which aids flicking into the oven

Despite making many many pizzas now I still don't think I've made a perfectly round one! They range from vaguely roundish through ovals and rectangles to triangles and 'splat' looking ones. They're all lovely

I forgot about one of the garlic breads and one side burned badly, was on fire coming out of the oven. I ate that bit and gave the good bit to the family. It was delicious


 
Posted : 17/09/2020 2:11 pm
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It's landed! Impressive bit of kit, got a free Ooni baseball cap too (not free when you pay 400 quid for a pizza oven to be fair!).

Off to my lbs to get Propane now.


 
Posted : 17/09/2020 3:04 pm
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Now I have a fully functioning kitchen again we are back to capacity on pizza.

25 kilos of Caputo arrived earlier in the week.

Tonight was about testing different size doughballs to find the sweet spot.

One thing -ive been using bread flour for the last few weeks due to lack of storage for buying in more Caputo and an abundance of bread flour.....frankly bread flour pizza is shit. It just feels different to work heavy lifeless - not very stretchy and for want of a better word...bready when cooked.

Getting back on Caputo tonight just highlighted how crap they have been.

Anyway I found a 400g dough ball the sweet spot for a regular koda . 450 as too big for the oven and the ooni 250 g ball makes tiny pizza.

Tonight is garlic and chilli prawn on one and thin choriZo on the other.


 
Posted : 18/09/2020 8:47 pm
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Pulled my last batch of frozen dough (jamie oliver recipe) and tomato sauce out the freezer, was defrosted in time

for some reason i never have much success with frozen dough, its always crap when defrosted. at what point are you freezing yours? and how long do you leave it out before cooking, just long enough to defrost?

Anyway I found a 400g dough ball the sweet spot for a regular koda . 450 as too big for the oven and the ooni 250 g ball makes tiny pizza.

blimey, thats about twice the weight of mine (200g, sometimes a bit less) and i make them around 10", are yours really thick then?


 
Posted : 18/09/2020 9:01 pm
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No just the full size of the oven.

I found the 10 inch ones to be too small too much crust seems you can get about 14 inch into a standard koda


 
Posted : 18/09/2020 9:06 pm
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and how long do you leave it out before cooking, just long enough to defrost?

About 4hrs. Has to get defrosted and up to room temp other it's pretty unworkable and prone to tearing


 
Posted : 18/09/2020 9:08 pm
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Away this weekend, won't get to use the koda til next week. 😔

Terry, what you storing the Caputo in? One of those big blue food barrels?


 
Posted : 18/09/2020 9:45 pm
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Exactly one of those.... It's not big enough thought 30ldoesnt hold 25kilo it Hilda's about 23kg


 
Posted : 18/09/2020 9:51 pm
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Just did steaks in a cheap eBay cast iron sizzler pan in the Koda - best steaks I've ever made. The fat crisps up brilliantly at around 500C 🙂

I've found freezing dough works fine, I normally do it once they've been shaped into individual pizza dough balls and had a little while proving in the fridge.


 
Posted : 18/09/2020 9:55 pm
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I’ve found freezing dough works fine, I normally do it once they’ve been shaped into individual pizza dough balls and had a little while proving in the fridge.

so youre freezing individual balls? in what? a sandwich bag for each one maybe?


 
Posted : 18/09/2020 10:00 pm
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I do the same individual balls .... Olive oiled clingfilm


 
Posted : 18/09/2020 10:04 pm
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I have used sandwich bags but I've also just put them together in the freezer (oiled) in the Ooni proving containers I got. They kinda squish together a little depending how many there are but they separate again easily.


 
Posted : 18/09/2020 10:27 pm
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Double dunt on the pizzas this weekend


 
Posted : 19/09/2020 8:24 pm
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Koda 16 is here, and it's awesome!.

Any recommendations for mozarella? Generally been quite happy with Aldi grated stuff, but it burns in koda earlier than I'd like, and I don't like burnt cheese.


 
Posted : 03/10/2020 6:25 pm
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Any tips please for best value gas tank for an ooni koda, and where to buy from?
Delivered would be best as we're in isolation 😮


 
Posted : 03/10/2020 6:35 pm
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but it burns in koda earlier than I’d like, and I don’t like burnt cheese.

can you alter the heat on the kodas or is it as it comes?

i ask as in the bumph for my firepod, the maker states that tests showed 320 degrees is the optimum temp for a pizza oven, so thats what he made them go up to. i believe the oonis go higher than that so just wondered whether you can set them a bit lower?


 
Posted : 03/10/2020 6:38 pm
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Any recommendations for mozarella?

M&S posh ones in the tub let them drain in a sieve about an hour before.

Any tips please for best value gas tank for an ooni koda, and where to buy from?

Local caravan/campsite supplier they’re generally cheaper too.

can you alter the heat on the kodas or is it as it comes?

Yes, they’re gas so can be turned down.


 
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