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@ugarizza depends where you are Cheshire Gas were good for me, suspect there are loads of outfits similar to them around the country.
can't remember brand but comes in a blue and red bag, most supermarkets. Drain it and tear it into pieces and then leave to air dry on a piece of kitchen towel before using, otherwise it makes the pizza soggy
Fior di latte mozzarella from adimaria is really good for pizzas.
Someone mentioned it on here but I've found that heating the Koda really super hot (500c ish) then turning the heat right down just before you put the pizza in gives best results.
Thanks,I think I found a local gas supplier.
Propane 37mb right?
Yep thats right.
Thanks
Cheapest gas will be a 47kg propane tank. They are massive though! 19kg more manageable. You may need a different regulator if you are currently using a BBQ gas or patio gas canister.
I've given up freezing the dough too... I use 500gm flour, 300gm water, and make 4 pizzas from that...
As there's just 3 of us, I make a spare for tomorrow now...
DrP
No such thing as spare pizza!!
That’s a thing of beauty Bruneep.
Yeah freezing seems pointless I’ve done it once it didn’t rise as well after being frozen, plan ahead or up the yeast for a short prove.
Firing ours up tonight for chicken tikka and probably tomorrow for pizza.
That Gozney Dome looks awesome!
Was thinking about a Komado bbq for next year, but this might be better. Low and slow with the door, high for pizza! Wonder how much heat it pumps out the door might even work as a patio heater too
Some nice garlic naan is next for the koda.
Yeah freezing seems pointless I’ve done it once it didn’t rise as well after being frozen, plan ahead or up the yeast for a short prove.
You're doing it wrong. Also, yeast? Strictly sourdough here. 😛
Built my pizza oven about 5 years ago. Cost an arm and a leg. Doesn't get used that often maybe 4-5 times a year. Takes ages to get it up to temperature (on a cold day almost 2 hours). But the whole family absolutely loves it & wouldn't be without it.
We love the whole drama & theatre of getting her going, tending her & feeding her.
She repays us with awesome pizzas, followed by fresh baked bread and always a slow cooked meat joint.
Bro-in-law has an Ooni which I am seriously considering so we have a faster and more convenient option but nothing will beat a day in the garden, several cold ones and proper wood fired pizzas.
The only things I do differently would be build the base slightly higher so I don't crick my neck peering into the oven to see how the pizzas are getting on.
And build a roof over it to keep the rain off. Once wet it takes some time to dry out hence the long wait to get her up to operating temperature. At teh moment I used a tarpaulin but this looks pretty ugly. Next spring I plan to upgrade to a fully covered oven.
I'm sure she will approve.
Yes I'd imagine frozen is pointless if you do it wrong.
Perfect pizza after an afternoons defrost/proove at room temp the secret is not to fully prove the dough before freezing or you'll end up with over prooved dough which leads to no rise.
I do about half a proove on the dough I'm freezing . Then it defrost in about the same time as. A portion of sauce.
Voila perfect pizza for seconds of prep.
proper wood fired pizzas.
You won't taste a difference between wood and gas fired.
20 minutes to get to temp is brilliant, I don't miss spending hours nursing the 'proper' way' 😁
Perfect pizza after an afternoons defrost/proove at room temp the secret is not to fully prove the dough before freezing or you’ll end up with over prooved dough which leads to no rise.
Probably the later part where I went wrong as it was left over from a pizza party. Tasted fine but wasn’t as light.
Trial and error for me to find out
My next project once building control come is to build a covered composite decking in the L formed by my utility room and my extension with a clear roof and half sides....perhaps with storm shutters ......
For the ooni the BBQ , my hammock and an outbacker stove in the corner ......
Make winter outside cooking more pleasurable.
Tonight’s tikka.
Im sure this has been asked a lot before but... can you tell any difference in taste of a pizza cooked with the gas, or wood ooni ?
No.
Koda 16 takes less than 2 minutes to cook a pizza, wood smoke just won't make a difference at that temp, time.
Im sure this has been asked a lot before but… can you tell any difference in taste of a pizza cooked with the gas, or wood ooni ?
It has yes about 3 replies above. The answer is no as not only is the time too short but the smoke goes up a chimney.
The answer is no as not only is the time too short but the smoke goes up a chimney.
Completely true, but there's a smugness that comes from cooking it with wood too, only import to people like me 😉
Oh! Yes there is that I may still build a wood one yet.
I wanted a wood-fired Ooni but I got the Koda as it was the only thing available at the time. I love a real charcoal BBQ and low and slow smoking etc but the convenience of the Koda is fantastic, means it gets used all the time.
I would like a big wood-fired oven too though, just because.
Pizzas tonight weren’t a huge success as I think I killed the yeast, still tasty though. Can I recommend ‘nduja as a topping absolute game changer.
I'm having a kiddies pizza party on sat...
I'm gonna make me my favourite pizza topping...steak and egg... mmmmmm
DrPizza
Dammit this thread has cost me £300. Koda incoming
Tried mine yesterday, main issue was they didn't slide off the peel.
What's the answer to this?
More flour on the peel?
what peel? more flour will just burn the base. Are you overloading the pizza, load pizza on counter and slide onto peel remember less is more.
Try a wooden peel to launch and a alu one for turning
whether its a wooden (better) or alu peel for loading, youre better off stretching the dough to size, then plopping onto the peel which has been pre-loaded with semolina/rice flour/polenta.
these are more like tiny balls rather than flour, and assist the pizza dough to slide off the peel. chuck the toppings on as quick as possible then straight into the oven.....
Wooden peels for loading (basic ones from Amazon are perfectly fine but have doubled in price since I got ours) - metal peel for turning during cooking.
Tried mine yesterday, main issue was they didn’t slide off the peel.
Too much/too wet ingredients is usually the issue IMO.
Wooden peels work better, prep the pizza on the peel but sprinkle with ground rice flour first just a light covering. Vented peels are supposed to be better still but I’ve not tried one yet.
If your loading it on the peel, give it a shake every wee while whilst loading, helps to stop it sticking.
And as little semolina flour as you can, if you must.
Great advice. I'll get rice flour/semolina and a wooden peel. Trying again later today without those, so will do the keep moving it technique.
The second problem was my dough balls really didn't want to stretch into a disc at all.
Thinking that's lack of kneading for initial mix?
Yeah it's good to do a shake test before 'launching'. I often just lift the edges with another peel and this is enough to stop the sticking.
When you say didn't want to stretch do you mean it broke up? Maybe you're not using high enough protein flour?
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If it has stuck blow underneath an edge and it should lift, you can even blow a little flour under.
The second problem was my dough balls really didn’t want to stretch into a disc at all.
Could be a few things, how long did you prove for?.
Today's efforts
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Came out better today, thanks guys.
One thing, we're seeing a small thin burnt line all the way under the crust on the base.
Any tips on removing that?
And any tips on avoiding surface charring?
small thin burnt line? Don't know that, you haven't go a mark or imperfection on the stone have you? Try the other side?
Charring - too much heat, turn more often / don't put as far back in the oven
See.. now I used to top it ON the peel... but now i find that making the pizza on a floured surface , THEN QUICKLY adjusting metal peel under, then QUICKLY loading into the oven works best...
ymmv
DrP
I can see the logic in that technique, I'll try it.
Not sure how to get pics in but really happy with today's results. Amazing to have pizza that tastes as good as in a restaurant at home!!
Such a fun process to make it as well.
Just got to use it a few times now to justify the cost!