Thanks madjak.
Yea, I know that I need to be looking after myself, and to some degree I am. But all of this still means I am connected to her.
Anyway, someone in the thread mentioned that they liked to maybe just go and sit in a cafe, just to be with people. I did it last night and actually it was nice to just sit and be, and do some people watching. Granted it didn't always help that it was happy looking couples, but it was certainly better than sitting in the house. Also gave me a chance to try out my new headphones I bought myself.
You can't be looking out for her emotional needs by damaging yourself.
It sounds harsh but you NEED to pull away from her in order to heal yourself.
I split from my fiancee 5rs ago, we'd been together 9yrs and planning marriage. I came very close (to the point of standing in the garage with a rope in my hand) to topping myself but managed to pull through.
One way was to delete her numbers, block her on social media and withdraw from those who were close to her. I needed time and space to heal myself, you do too.
You must create the space or you will destroy yourself and become a very unattractive person who in turn people won't want to support. Send condolences but don't go beyond that or it will suck you in. I wouldn't go to funeral etc as it will be compounding everything. Grim situation and air of subconscious tension/hope between you. Sorry but keep distance or things won't improve for you as a person.
I have done all the basics already, Facebook, texts/emails etc. I am moving on, my feelings are constantly changing and I'm starting to get used to being on my own. I have had great support from many directions including here.
I didn't offer to go to the funeral, however I did send a card and sent a text to her mum offering my condolences. I was close to her family. I was not close to any of her friends, so there is no worry about that end of it.
Good start. Keep that distance. Riding this week?
Yea, hoping to get a night ride in tomorrow night. I'm away to London this coming weekend to see Arsenal play too. Got a core class tonight and then football training on Thursday.
this coming weekend to see Arsenal play too.
Aren't you supposed to be dealing with the depression, not making it worse ?
Haha, yes I've had to up the meds for a few days 😉
Really struggling today. Don't want to be in work, don't really want to be anywhere at the minute. Had an okay time in London over the weekend, but just wasn't really comfortable with being there.
8pm start tonight on the gold coast if you fancy it.
Women are attracted to someone who is happy with his lot.
Here are two more (cynical) sayings for you.
Women are like monkeys, they wont let go of one branch until they have hold of another
Once a womans head has been turned, only a spade will turn it back.
Women are like monkeys, they wont let go of one branch until they have hold of another
So, you're suggesting someone else is involved?
No- I've seen this line somewhere else. From a couple of girls I know- it was true in their case.
Well things have taken a turn for the worse. I had to go to the doctors yesterday and I have been signed off work for a week. I keep getting horrible thoughts and feelings and I found out that she is heading off on a skiing holiday at the beginning of next month. It rips me up inside thinking that she could meet someone else at some point and be with another man. I have almost had a few panic attacks but managed to just about cope. The doctor has told me to make use of my time when I'm off so I am shortly heading out for a walk and taking the camera with me.
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It does sound like your relationship is over and you need to try and accept it.
Doctors advice to get out and *do* stuff is good - you need to break the cycle of thought that you are in.
I won;t say 'chin up' because it sounds trite but you should start looking forward rather than back, maybe?
Be the big man. Be grateful she's gone and hope for all the best for her - positive thinking. Positive thinking. If you ever loved her, why wouldn't you want her to be as happy as possible. Positive thinking.
Women are like monkeys, they wont let go of one branch until they have hold of anotherOnce a womans head has been turned, only a spade will turn it back.
Do shut up Hora. I know you think you're trying to help but wtaf?!
I do genuinely hope she is happy and has a great holiday. She loved skiing and spent over a year in Whistler and has skied around Europe. We had planned to do it together at some point.
It really is so hard trying to be positive.
Do shut up Hora
In this case a good point.
St Colin, I can't offer any better advice than already given. I can tell you that in time you won't care what your ex is doing or who she may be doing it with. You really won't think about her at all. Avoid contact, keep going out, spend as much time as you can with good people and this painful time will pass - honestly it will.
Take care chap.
Jay
Watch The Inbetweeners movie.
Take cues from there 🙂
Please, St Colin - organise something for yourself that you can look forward to.
In my experience of depression you need to have something positive to look forward to. Even if it's something small, but on a weekly basis, like going for a curry with your mates, riding your bike at a trail centre you've never ridden before, sorting a riding holiday etc. It's easy for me to look in from outside, but my experience of negative thoughts are that they only breed more negative thoughts. Do something for yourself.
I know and accept its not easy breaking up and not easy having depression, double whammy really but you wont get better with any amount of rumination or naval gazing.
I can't go into why in at the moment but just trust me the human body is designed to be used (in my case quite hard, you'll know your level) so get out an use it. Burn off the Adrenaline and Cortisone surging through your system.
Exercise is key so go and do something, can't ride? Cant go out? Then pushups and dips on the stairs. No excuses, just crack on with it.
And for your own sake stop yourself thinking about her by planning your time as already mentioned, when your brain moves back on to the subject mentally tweak yourself.
Oh and look up Mindfulness on the interweb, it will help.
Take care,
You have 2 normal issues - you can't cope with the split and your imagination is running wild.
You have to go through the mental pain, but accept it and work around it so you dont let it dominate you like it is. Imagination works both ways - if she thinks you are having a great time, she will be thinking the same and may come back. Cut out the I miss you bit and instead tell her of the great stuff you have going on, would she like to join in.
You have a week off work - this could be best or worst. Sit at home moping or use the time to make yourself get out and things that you wont feel like doing but will bring up your endorphins, make you feel hopeful about life and happier about things generally
Either way, if you get out there you will either get here back or be in a much better place to find someone else.
Had a horrible night last night, been up from 4am worried sick. Just can't get the scenario of her being with someone else out of my head, to the point were I couldn't eat breakfast.
I did however make it out on the bike and installed my new Mudhugger.
Sorry for updating this randomly, but the replies help.
I feel your pain. My girlfriend broke up with me 2 days before Christmas and I'm still struggling now.
You've got to believe that things will get better and time will heal a broken heart. Get yourself out in the world, do things with friends (make the effort) and try to have fun. If posting on here helps then do it but don't over think things, you were happy before and you WILL be happy again.
Sorry to hear that ranger.
Sounds like you are staying positive. At least I have lots of this to look forward to now....
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When I split up with my long term girlfriend, which also involved moving out of our shared house I was a mess. All of the advice already given seems good, I planned a holiday for myself, and each week I bought something small that I would take with me.
When I got bad and my imagination ran wild, I would repeat to myself the names of all those people who I know loved and cared about me. It sounds really cheesy, but it seemed to help calm me down and realise that just because one person didn't love me, other people who were really important to me still did.
I didn't meet anyone serious for about two years after we split up, but looking back, I am glad the way that time forced me to actually start enjoying things for myself, and not always thinking about the other person.
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Perfectly valid point Phil. Everybody has chipped in with their thoughts, yours is just as important.
Oh Dear Colin.
Was in a similar - ish situation to you a few years ago.
I think Madjak has it - get involved and get DOING stuff. Activity is the key - work activity into everything you do - you have to eat, so enrich your life by learning some kick arse recipes. Riding bikes? yup - that's grand, but do it WITH people. Widen your horizons, learn something new. it's weird, but having not played football since school, I started a regular 5 a side thing, and being around some other folk really helped.
Biking is great, but I found during my, erm, darker days, that I rode lots, and despite getting fitter, also ended up still lonely.
Finally, I'd say chat to a friend, over a beer, in person. STW is a lovely place, with some great folk, but it's not a substitute for real chat with real people. Again, when I was down, the thing that started me getting happy again was going out and actually talking to my friends.
You will feel better in time, it's all anecdotal, but 3 years on from a breakup of my own doing, I'm getting married to my beautiful girl and have a baby on the way (2 weeks to go). And that was after royally screwing up, of my own volition. You'll be alright 😉
I had a tough time a few years back after a breakup. It was made worse by the resultant loneliness. As soon as I made new friends by joining a darts team, I quickly got out of it.
Several years back I went through a nasty break up, we'd been together 2 years, she was my first 'proper' girlfriend. And it turned out that she'd been grabbing onto several branches before letting go of mine! It felt like she'd strung me along for ages before floating off to someone else without a care in the world, without even having the decency to tell me what had happened.
It hurt, it was sh*t, I was convinced it must have been my fault, there was something wrong with me, etc. And like you, I'd get that horrible swirling in the pit of my stomach when my brain said "she's with someone else you know", thanks Brain!
But, I met a friend of a friend who was about to go away travelling. So I thought, "you know what, I might do that". I was plodding along in my comfort zone which gave me lots of time to think about things that I shouldn't have bothered myself with (her, basically), and doing something, really *doing something* would mean I had something to focus on.
So I decided to ask for a couple of months off work (I felt that I *had* to do it, so I'd convinced myself to call my bosses bluff. If he asked what I'd do if he said no, then I'd tell him I'd quit and do it anyway). As it happens they agreed to it.
So I had 8 weeks in south east asia, in the time between asking for the time off and leaving I was so busy with sorting visas, passports, packing lists, accomodation, flights and generally researching and planning the trip that I found myself thinking about what had happened less and less.
And then I ended up in the departures lounge of heathrow, shi**ing myself at the thought of flying to the other side of the world completely on my own, having only been as far as Mallorca in the past! 😆 But I did it, I got there and then it was all about the experience, I wasn't scared, I didn't regret a single second of it. If I'm honest I'd got a bit of a "don't let the b**ch grind you down" mentality. I WAS going to watch the sun go down on the beach of a tiny Thai island. I WAS going to see Angkor Wat etc etc, and nothing she'd done or could do was going to stop me, all the sh*t she'd done hadn't beaten me, it had made me stronger. She's does something horrible to me, so I make a choice to make my life better.
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And I realised, "I'm alright". And then I met someone else, and 3 years on things are pretty good. I wish things hadn't gone the way they did, but I wouldn't be where I am now.
We've (virtually) all been there, people breakup, then they meet someone else. You both will. She's less upset by it because she knew it was coming. She's got rid of something that she didn't necessarily want to get rid of, but she knew she couldn't keep, and she's done it when she wanted to. You've lost something you wanted, and lost it when she wanted to end it, not when you did. It's always going to be tougher for you. But you'll be okay. Keep busy. Do something different. Think of a sport/hobby, try to find a local group that does it, it'll keep you busy and you'll meet people. Or plan an adventure, do something scary, something that you've had rattling around in the back of your brain but have never had the chance/balls to do. I hear South America is lovely.... 😉
No words here can make you not feel that way bud, only time would heal that...only time. Just let yourself grieve, you will come around eventually and it doesnt matter when... I know its really painful even comparable to someone just nicked your bike while you're in the toilet of your local trail centre on a saturday when there are many riders around and nobody notice. ... Activities does help as everybody said..bcoz you cannot think sad and smash that techy downhill section of your local trail centre at the same time, or riding that big hill and be sad..it just wont work..so there you are 3-4 hours of not thinkng about it for a while.. Its for you to fill those other hours..but don't forget to grieve..it is part of healing. .. So You look after yourself now. 😉 .. Remember again, time heals everything.
Without getting all Facebook about it, I <3 Bails' post.
Self reliance, positive thinking and leaving people, places and things better than you found them - three good rules to live by, taught to me my an amazing man.
Oh, and don't fall into the abyss of self pity.
I forgot.. I might add, the next time around.. Always remember.. In a relationship there is only 1 parachute. No matter what everybody says.
St Colin.
Went through the same thing 21 years ago, made redundant at the start of January, three weeks later fiance (wedding scheduled for 18 months later) decides to move home to her folks as things aren't working. We had bought a place together (they were a lot cheaper then, 2.5 times combined salary).
We had a couple of dates, after a few months I moved out and let her take the place over.
Then she began seeing one of our friends, a married guy who left his wife & daughter for her. At that point I knew it was for the best, I was a little bitter for about 12 months, after all while we were supposedly working things out, I'd been on a 24 hour endurance event with him and poured my heart out to him.
I had a few cheap and meaningless flings, then met my wife a couple of years later. We met & married inside 13 months, it worked and we worked harder at it because we were married. I knew this was right when she agreed that a trip to the Alps with my friends would be acceptable a month before the wedding. (That's not to say that marriage is always the answer, my brother married his long term GF after 9 years together and they didn't see out another year, however he did the same thing a couple of flings and has now settled down with an absolute sweetheart). I've now got 2 kids, been married for almost 17 years & everything seems OK but who knows what's around the corner?
My ex and friend married, had 2 kids, but sadly he died last year. I wished them no ill, way I looked it at (after a little time) was that I'd had a lucky escape. She'd had the bottle to say it wasn't working for her (I was a bloke, I'd get some now and again, so the relationship was OK in my book). I also learnt that you can't trust ALL your friends.
Carpe diem, seize the day my friend and make the most of the new opportunities open to you.
Hi all. Well time is doing it's best at the moment.
I had been signed off work for a week, just back today, and I think I have come along way. Feeling much more positive, and I am getting stuck into using my spare time well. My fitness has actually come on since Christmas which is giving me some confidence back.
I can't thank you all enough, it's amazing what a bunch of strangers can do for you. Faith in humanity has been restored on several occasions.
Good stuff. Stay positive, get on with doing stuff you enjoy 🙂
*thumbs up*
keep going with the activities that make you feel positive now you're back at work.
Well done st_colin. Keep going with the good work, fitness really will help, mentally and physically.
😀
Its putting all the bits of the jigsaw puzzle together that make you feel better but you'll have to find them first - but you've already started!
You need your friends and your family stay in touch, keep active, plan for the future and has been said it grieve. Your brain treats a failed relationship like a sort of death so the process will take a while.
Good that your seeing things more positively, it's a great opportunity to not only get back to where you were but make life better for yourself. Have some cool adventures and find out what you really want from life and your next relationship. That will all come when your ready.
Fitness is also a great way to feel good, happy times ahead!
I promise you that time will sort everything.
3 years ago I found out that my ex had been having an affair. Ultimately, I moved out (have 2 kids too who still live with their Mum). She moved her new man in - ouch at the time!
I spent a year with no real direction, did lots of stupid things and 'had a laugh' and meaningless encounters. None of it made me any happier, but it passed the time.
Then one day, I realised that I felt that I had turned a corner. I felt happy with me and started to realise that I had some great things in life.
Wasn't looking to meet anyone, but once I had decided that I didn't need to meet someone...I met someone. Our relationship is everything that I always wanted from a relationship, like properly head over heals.
Looking back, even though the split tore me apart at the time, I can now see that we were never really that happy and that there was always such pressure on me from her - nothing ever seemed good enough.
It will take a while, but I promise, time will cure all the pain. Keep yourself busy in the meantime and take time to remind yourself if the positive things in life.
Keep moving forwards.
Stu.
it's amazing what a bunch of strangers can do for you.
*jokey arm punch* 😀
*sees faith in humanity restored a bit*
Quite apart from the various niche faction wars on here, it's things like this that make me glad I come one here.
St. Colin, I'm really glad things are getting bette for you. Keep getting better, keep being positive!
Well as thought things have taken a turn for the worse.
The last few days have been awful. My ex has been in my head constantly. Whilst I have moved on in terms of accepting it is over and whatever, I just can't stop thinking about her and how great she was. I need to let go but I can't. How can I?
I don't know if I can keep going, it's just so painful for me.
